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paul_soccer10 posted:i like the 4 chapters in shogun devoted to japanese ladies discussing the best way to take a large western dong, since they are only used to tiny asian weeners well how?
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Zombiepop posted:It's a really good book, same with Tai-Pan. idk much about books but buy u a drank is a rly good song
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Jan 13, 2017 02:57
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my favorite part of Shogun is the part where we learn about anal beads
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Jan 13, 2017 02:59
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Clavell wrote the screenplay for The Fly (the old one) and that movie is cool.
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Jan 13, 2017 04:35
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i like the part at the beginning of the movie where u can see the shadow of the helicopter flying around the ship
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Jan 13, 2017 05:15
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IIT everyone has read this book but they can only remember people being pissed on or boiled alive. There was a big mini-series in the 80's. It's all right but As explicit as a PG movie.
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Jan 13, 2017 05:18
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There was a part where an entire village poops in a trough together and it's used to illustrate how good Japanese people are at ignoring things that would be embarrassing to themselves and others/ Did I make that up or did it actually happen? P.S. James Clavell is a great storyteller, just kind of a lovely writer.
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Automatic Slim posted:IIT everyone has read this book but they can only remember people being pissed on or boiled alive. lol that's true
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Jan 13, 2017 05:38
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This book had so many memorable parts. Like the dude being boiled alive, or the gardener committing suicide for mistakenly throwing out Brackthorne's spoiled fish.
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Jan 13, 2017 05:43
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Automatic Slim posted:IIT everyone has read this book but they can only remember people being pissed on or boiled alive.
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Jan 13, 2017 07:03
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Also at all the various points where the protestants and catholics try explain to the Japanese why the other side is wrong and super evil, and how the japanese reactions range from confusion to exasperation to polite amusement at the thought of any of these smelly dumb gaijin thinking they're better than others of their kind
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Jan 13, 2017 07:12
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let it mellow posted:king rat was short as poo poo for clavell but it was also p cool, about a dude that was a black market trader in a ww2 (maybe 1? I think 2) prison camp I too have no conception of who fought who in the two world wars and on what side anyone was on it's just so hard to keep track of.
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Jan 13, 2017 07:31
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What I learned abt feudal Japan from Shogun: they called sex "pillowing" and none of them could swim.
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Jan 13, 2017 08:03
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:P.S. James Clavell is a great storyteller, just kind of a lovely writer. A bad opinion. A good storyteller is a good writer.
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Jan 13, 2017 09:37
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Shotgun = Haulikko Shogun = Halikko
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Jan 13, 2017 10:00
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Aging Millenial posted:A bad opinion. A good storyteller is a good writer. I disagree. I think the ability to construct a good sentence is a different skill that constructing a good story. Mechnical vs. abstract, if you will.
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Jan 13, 2017 10:11
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:I disagree. I think the ability to construct a good sentence is a different skill that constructing a good story. Mechnical vs. abstract, if you will. Ah so it's your definition of "writer" that's completely hosed up.
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Jan 13, 2017 10:24
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Wow, some butthurt peeps in this thread. Okay, have fun!
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Jan 13, 2017 10:55
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:Wow, some butthurt peeps in this thread. Okay, have fun! With skin this thin you must be the one they made the drum out of
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The Sweetling posted:This book had so many memorable parts. Like the dude being boiled alive, or the gardener committing suicide for mistakenly throwing out Brackthorne's spoiled fish. Ruh roh sweetling you misremembered and thus posted falsehoods in this thread. The gardener dies cuz he cuts down brackforn's disgusting, rotting-rear end capon that he leaves hanging from hia porch because he is monstrous barbarian. And thinks your chicken needs to be rotten before eating.
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:Wow, some butthurt peeps in this thread. Okay, have fun! You are poisonous. Seriously. This thread had a good vibe and was all about geeking out about a pretty good book a lot of us read when we were younger, and you had to come in with your dose of literary snootiness oh he's a good storyteller but a lovely writer that can only lead somewhere negative. There was no need for your comment whatsoever, or better yet you could have just said "he's a good storyteller" (which I agree with) and leave the rest out. What is your loving point anyway? That there are writers who entertain through the art of their prose, and James Clavell isn't one of them? No poo poo. But your attitude is just laughable. A writer who is good at storytelling, characterization, plotting, etc, does not deserve to be called "lovely", sir. What bothers me here is your asinine frame of mind that says it's okay to forever besmirch writers like James Clavell for not having arty literary prose. Aging Millenial fucked around with this message at 11:23 on Jan 13, 2017 |
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I feel you mang I like him as an author too but if that post pissed you off as much as it sounds like it did, you should have never made the point public. Shoulda quoted the post, called the dude a fuckman, told him to suck your dick/lick your rear end/explore your taint and moved on.
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Jan 13, 2017 11:27
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speaking of writing it doesnt take 5 paragraphs of it to call the guy a bitch (he is one tho, and a farty face too) e: beaten by nathilus my poo poo is derivative 
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Jan 13, 2017 11:33
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Nathilus posted:I feel you mang I like him as an author too but if that post pissed you off as much as it sounds like it did, you should have never made the point public. Shoulda quoted the post, called the dude a fuckman, told him to suck your dick/lick your rear end/explore your taint and moved on. and done it in an orientalist fashion
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Jan 13, 2017 11:34
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Nathilus posted:I feel you mang I like him as an author too but if that post pissed you off as much as it sounds like it did, you should have never made the point public. Shoulda quoted the post, called the dude a fuckman, told him to suck your dick/lick your rear end/explore your taint and moved on. In the middle of writing that post I realized I was being ridiculous but finished the post anyway and hit click
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Hogge Wild posted:and done it in an orientalist fashion so the same except the ridge of yhe dickhead is blacked out?
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Aging Millenial posted:A bad opinion. A good storyteller is a good writer. no these are two different things, if you need an example look at your effortpost bc the writing is good but the story it relates is nerd is angry and no one around the campfires asking for that tale
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Jan 13, 2017 11:48
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oh no, whoflungpoop is on my case, boy do I regret making public my nerd rage
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Jan 13, 2017 11:50
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at least I didnt piss on your back
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Aging Millenial posted:oh no, whoflungpoop is on my case, boy do I regret making public my nerd rage Yeah you should never do that fyi.
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To be extremely honest, I didn't like King Rat. Which is odd because I like Tai Pan and the Shogun.
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Jan 13, 2017 12:58
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The only King Rat I acknowledge was written by China Meiville.
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tactlessbastard posted:I too have no conception of who fought who in the two world wars and on what side anyone was on it's just so hard to keep track of. either that or I don't remember the nations prison camp the dude was in but I do remember enjoying the book and that's the good part, everyone should read some clavell
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Automatic Slim posted:IIT everyone has read this book but they can only remember people being pissed on or boiled alive. Yeah Mifune was in it as Toranaga (aka one of the best actors ever) That guy owned stab fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Jan 14, 2017 |
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stab posted:Yeah Mifune was in it as Toranaga (aka one of the best actors ever) A legend for sure
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he ended his life in an honorable fashion nippon banzai
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Jan 14, 2017 01:55
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I thought this thread was about James Clavell's Shotgun
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I played the Commodore 64 adaptation and couldn't understand what the gently caress was going on.
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I keep trying to figure out how exactly he butchered the names like "Toranaga" is some kind of Nobunaga/Tokugawa mix or some poo poo also it bothers me that hes like 50 in the book wasn't Ieyasu Tokugawa like in his 20s when he became shogun?
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T.S. Smelliot posted:I keep trying to figure out how exactly he butchered the names like "Toranaga" is some kind of Nobunaga/Tokugawa mix or some poo poo also it bothers me that hes like 50 in the book wasn't Ieyasu Tokugawa like in his 20s when he became shogun? Clavell just changed some of the details so everyone didnt go "oh its nobunaga". Similarly, blackthorn is based on a dude called william adams. Dude had a crazy life. He was the survivor of a trading expedition and ended up as a samurai just like blackthorn, and he was also responsible for some of the first industrialization in japan.
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