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There was a person who made millions of dollars by playing happy wheels and screaming "SPEED IS KEY" every video Makes you think
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the holy poopacy posted:you can also dial your cruise control to 5 over the limit and do the same thing without pissing other drivers off as much See that's the thing. Some other person is going to be going 4 mph over and I'm going to have to stop doing that eventually. Speeding is an arbitrary thing people "feel" out between 0 and 10 over. So eventually I will catch up to the backend of traffic. If only there was some sort of number we could all agree to go, and then we wouldn't catch up to the rear end end of another car. Well if there isn't a way to find out this magic speed, we will just have to wait for a sign
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Dec 8, 2021 17:23
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KakerMix posted:You guys ever drive on the Autobahn in Germany? That poo poo is so choice and highlights exactly how loving dumb, stupid and wrong the United States is when it comes to roads (and much more!) I swear to god. Spent three weeks in a big Audi wagon just flying around the country and it was a gloriously ego-free cooperative experience. Roads were flawless, not a single person on their phones, nobody cruising in the left lane even if they were going wicked fast. Rigid adherence to the speed limits when present, but once that beautiful 'Unrestricted' sign popped up, lmao enjoy your superior Nazi road, Mr. Adolf Hitler!
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Dec 8, 2021 17:26
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Grevlek posted:See that's the thing. Some other person is going to be going 4 mph over and I'm going to have to stop doing that eventually. Speeding is an arbitrary thing people "feel" out between 0 and 10 over. So eventually I will catch up to the backend of traffic. That's why you watch the brake lights of not just the cars in front of you but the cars three ahead. You should already be slowing down by the time the idiot in front of you realizes what is going on. brake early and slowly to avoid creating a bunch/bottleneck, which coincidentally is exactly what you're doing driving the speed limit in the middle lane
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Dec 8, 2021 17:40
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The Walrus posted:That's why you watch the brake lights of not just the cars in front of you but the cars three ahead. You should already be slowing down by the time the idiot in front of you realizes what is going on. brake early and slowly to avoid creating a bunch/bottleneck, which coincidentally is exactly what you're doing driving the speed limit in the middle lane I totally disagree. My whole point was I'm not trying to adjust my speed while driving every 30 feet.
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Dec 8, 2021 17:42
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Grevlek posted:If only there was some sort of number we could all agree to go, and then we wouldn't catch up to the rear end end of another car. Well if there isn't a way to find out this magic speed, we will just have to wait for a sign Grevlek posted:I totally disagree. My whole point was I'm not trying to adjust my speed while driving every 30 feet. your weird theory of driving relies on everyone else on the road wanting the same things as you and that's very unlikely to happen like in most places where ive lived the average rate of traffic on the freeway is about 10-15 mph faster than the posted limit. the average rate people actually travel is thus the "agreed upon" speed for most people on the road at that time, but of course it's not universal and you can't control what other people do. thus you should always be watching several cars ahead and adjusting yourself accordingly Earwicker fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Dec 8, 2021 |
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Dec 8, 2021 17:53
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OP your question could be answered by “go with the flow of traffic” too. If you’re consistently getting passed that that means traffic is weaving around you and will probably cause more traffic. Personally speed never bothers me quite as much as people who clearly shouldn’t be on the road in general, old people not looking before turning, young people buried in their phones, lost people who would rather slow to an almost stop every intersection than simply pull over and use their phone to look up where they are going, etc. these behaviors are all big risks for accidents and when two of them meet (ie old person not looking before turning out in front of young person on phone) poo poo goes down.
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Dec 8, 2021 17:55
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hey pal get THA FUK OUTTA THE FAST LANE i got places to be 
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Dec 8, 2021 17:56
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In mexico people will put their left turn signal if they're behind you in the fast lane and want you to move. I have no idea why canadians and americans don't do this.
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Dec 8, 2021 18:15
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The two types of drivers ITT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcn3wI0adCc
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Dec 8, 2021 18:17
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STABASS posted:I don't own a car its like this i don't own a car 
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Dec 8, 2021 18:18
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Buddy I don't even own a car 
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Dec 8, 2021 18:20
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STABASS posted:I don't own a car i own several and i go as fast as the gearbox will allow in every single one
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Dec 8, 2021 18:24
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Grevlek posted:I totally disagree. My whole point was I'm not trying to adjust my speed while driving every 30 feet. So you make every single person on the road adjust to you. Very cool and not at all selfish.
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Dec 8, 2021 18:47
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rebel without a car! 
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Dec 8, 2021 18:47
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Imagine being able to afford a car that can go over the speed limit
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Dec 8, 2021 18:52
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my mom had a friend who intentionally drove under the speed limit on local roads and believed she was keeping people safe by doing so. she died of cancer. i'm not saying it's necessarily related, just thinking out loud here.
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Dec 8, 2021 18:52
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The Walrus posted:So you make every single person on the road adjust to you. Very cool and not at all selfish. Yes, every person is their own arbiter of how fast to go and I'm the selfish one
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Dec 8, 2021 18:54
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You are literally describing how you don't want to inconvenience yourself (by which I mean taking off the cruise control and reacting to things that are happening around you aka 'driving') and would prefer to instead inconvenience others. Yes, that's selfish.
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Dec 8, 2021 18:59
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"If this mother fucker doesn't go 2 miles an hour faster I will tailgate his rear end and then brandish a gun at him as I speed past him. I need to get to the home depot NOW!" - A totally sane and non-selfish person.
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Dec 8, 2021 19:04
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i mean ideally every single person on the road is continually observing and adjusting based on the behaviors of everyone else on the road. that should always be the cause regardless of speed, but obviously it isn't - people get in conversations with passengers or on the phone, people get distracted by their gps or changing the music, people get hypnotized by the road itself and fall into a sort of trance - and thats just the normal poo poo not to mention the even more hosed up and stupid things people do at the wheel other than paying attention to the road. because of this you should absolutely never just turn your brain off and "chill" and stop paying attention and being ready to adjust what you are doing, because its practically guaranteed that in any given moment one or more of the drivers around you is not paying attention obviously its true that going slower makes accidents less severe. but deliberately going slower than the rate of traffic, in many situations, can also be dangerous. and it can also get you a ticket even if you are going the posted speed limit! also: the idea that speeding will always "attract cops" is also wrong. what attracts cops the most is when your behavior as a driver stands out from everyone around you, whether thats faster or slower. if the limit is 65 and normal rate of traffic is 80 and you are creeping along at exactly 65 making everyone weave around you, that attracts attention. in some cases you can even get a ticket for it! Earwicker fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Dec 8, 2021 |
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Dec 8, 2021 19:08
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Grevlek posted:"If this mother fucker doesn't go 2 miles an hour faster I will tailgate his rear end and then brandish a gun at him as I speed past him. I need to get to the home depot NOW!" - A totally sane and non-selfish person. So you just fundamentally don't understand traffic and the impact of bottlenecks on flow. Got it. You can literally create a traffic jam 2 km behind you driving like this in my city very easily.
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Dec 8, 2021 19:08
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Grevlek posted:"If this mother fucker doesn't go 2 miles an hour faster I will tailgate his rear end and then brandish a gun at him as I speed past him. I need to get to the home depot NOW!" - A totally sane and non-selfish person. do you seriously imagine this is the mindset of everyone going the normal rate of traffic like the walrus says you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how traffic flow works
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Dec 8, 2021 19:09
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Earwicker posted:do you seriously imagine this is the mindset of everyone going the normal rate of traffic Traffic is almost always focused around onramps and offramps. It doesn't matter how wide the road is, or how fast the traffic is going, it bottlenecks at onramps and offramps ( outside of accidents blocking the road ). I found this video from a traffic engineer from the 90s who encapsulates this perfectly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqpeDum3jeE
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Dec 8, 2021 19:14
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gonna rip a big ol burnout today for my carless bros
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Dec 8, 2021 19:15
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Right hand lane, 5 over the limit, cruise control, haters can pass me on the left.
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Dec 8, 2021 19:19
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2 ops driving the speed limit side by side of each other staring directly forward never making eye contact
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Dec 8, 2021 19:20
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if i drive 20 kph over the 90 kph speed limit for 200 km then i will have saved 25 minutes and 5 seconds to use to jerk off to anime porn check and mate 
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Dec 8, 2021 19:23
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Grevlek posted:Traffic is almost always focused around onramps and offramps. im not just talking about heavy traffic or traffic jams, im using the word in the broader sense simply meaning the cars on the road in general, whether the amount of traffic is heavy or light there is often an average rate that everyone is going. drivers tend to form "clumps" where everyone is going more or less the same speed. in many, many cases this speed is faster than the posted limit. this can also be the case in times of even heavier traffic when there are too many cars for those kinds of groups to form but there is still enough flow for the average speed to be higher than the posted limit so please answer my question, if the average flow of traffic is 10 or 15 mph faster than the posted speed limit do you seriously imagine everyone else on the road is some kind of maniac? do you think the legal speed limit is the "agreed upon" speed that you mentioned above or do you think it's the one that almost everyone on the road is actually driving? Earwicker fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Dec 8, 2021 |
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Dec 8, 2021 19:23
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I prefer walking across america OP
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Dec 8, 2021 19:23
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Slugworth posted:Right hand lane, 5 over the limit, cruise control, haters can pass me on the left. This but middle lane so I don’t have to deal with trucks or fools going for the offramp Podcasts and audiobooks have completely changed how I drive.
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Dec 8, 2021 19:32
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Earwicker posted:im not just talking about heavy traffic or traffic jams, im using the word in the broader sense simply meaning the cars on the road in general, whether the amount of traffic is heavy or light there is always an average rate that everyone is going. drivers tend to form "clumps" where everyone is going more or less the same speed. in many, many cases this speed is faster than the average limit. this can also be the case in times of even heavier traffic when there are too many cars for those kinds of groups to form but there is still enough flow for the average speed to be higher than the posted limit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNokBgtSUvQ No I do not think everyone who speeds is a maniac. I think the speedlimit could be whatever, I'm not opposed to going fast per se. If it were 90 I would drive 90. If it were 40 I would go 40. I am also advocating for people to not go less than the speed limit, as that is dumb and causes traffic. I think the clumping occurs because some people go the speed limit, and then others go varying speeds above it, which at any given point is a totally random and arbitrary amount. I legitimately think that issues with congestion would be mitigated, if cars all went the same speed. I think when you describe the average flow being 10 or 15 mpg faster than the posted limit, supports my argument. I get that some people would like to go faster than the posted speed limit, and if that is the case maybe they should lobby their governments to increase the speed limit. But we are literally calling it a limit, and most people think of that as the starting speed. When you 'experience' traffic, you personally experience it by being in a car that is going faster than the car in front of you. If you matched your speed, to the speed of the car in front of you, you might be going less fast than you would prefer, but you would not be experiencing 'traffic'. When I say traffic, I don't mean going 0 because everyone is stopped because a truck has flipped and they are removing it from the road. Again, unless traffic is going 0, you won't experience traffic if you just go the pace of the car in front of you.
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Dec 8, 2021 19:34
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surely self driving cars will get us out of this mess, caused by too many cars
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Dec 8, 2021 19:35
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they should give out prizes for people who get to the next light first, IMO
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Dec 8, 2021 19:38
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the deal with speeding is that it loving owns, especially after having a few drinks to loosen up
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Dec 8, 2021 19:39
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numberoneposter posted:they should give out prizes for people who get to the next light first, IMO your prize is being able to light up the rear tires as you peel off the start line, wide open road ahead and nothing but haters and losers in the dust behind
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Dec 8, 2021 19:40
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the moment you add 4 or 7 or whatever to the speed limit to decide how fast to go you are giving every cop a free pass to stop you, search your car, maybe murder you and it pretty much never pays off unless you're on a long highway with no lights
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Bad Purchase posted:surely self driving cars will get us out of this mess, caused by too many cars I think when people no longer can control their own driving, their speed racer fantasies will end, and realize they are just in an expensive form of public transit that they own all the costs and liability for. Presumably automated traffic will result in less people owning cars in the long run. I also would like to use public transit, but even in the new city I moved to, it was not feasible since routes did not go to where I lived after 8 PM.
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Dec 8, 2021 19:48
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poverty goat posted:the moment you add 4 or 7 or whatever to the speed limit to decide how fast to go you are giving every cop a free pass to stop you, search your car, maybe murder you and it pretty much never pays off unless you're on a long highway with no lights cops always have a free pass to stop you and murder you entire regardless of what speed you are going. if they dont see a reason they will make one up again though, speeding in and of itself is not what attracts cops, it's standing out. obviously going faster than everyone will get you pulled over. but also if its rush hour and everyone on the road is going 15 over the limit and you are studiously creeping along at exactly the limit and everyone is weaving around you, that stands out and you can get pulled over for that too - especially if you are doing that anywhere other than the right lane personally when i am on long distance drives my strategy is to generally stay within groups and always make sure there is at least one car going slightly faster than me. the speeders that get pulled over the most are the ones who are weaving through everyone else
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:your prize is being able to light up the rear tires as you peel off the start line, wide open road ahead and nothing but haters and losers in the dust behind not as much fun when im driving the matrix
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