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Toxxupation posted:he also was put on trial in front of an overwhelmingly black jury right after rodney king OJ was half a decade after Rodney King, and the rest of your post is fairly equally bad e: in short your feels based on a TV show have gently caress all to do with what causes acquittals or convictions
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Rodney King was March of 1991 and oj did his murdering in 94. That poo poo was still very fresh in people's minds.
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Mar 17, 2015 16:15
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And the trial was in 95 which was half a decade after the actual Rodney King beating, like I said. Jfc how is tviv always worse than you imagine it could be.
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Mar 17, 2015 16:34
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I do wonder how Durst feels about Jarecki now and what his response will be towards him. Most of the time the villainous subjects of a doc like this are the type of people/institutions that don't want more attention and publicity around whatever their issue is, or they don't have the resources or willfull disregard for rational behavior to follow through with any vengeful schemes. Durst has enough money and insanity that he could get up yto all types of crazy poo poo.
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Mar 17, 2015 16:35
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Arnold of Soissons posted:And the trial was in 95 which was half a decade after the actual Rodney King beating, like I said. Jfc how is tviv always worse than you imagine it could be. Because a dude being beaten nearly to death for being black is something that goes away so fast.
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Mar 17, 2015 16:44
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I just can't imagine that a guy who openly admitted to dismembering a body and dumping it in the bay and still was found not-guilty of murder is going to get convicted of Susan Berman's murder. Absent some of of literal smoking gun, I can't imagine the LAPD has much else. Maybe if they try to get him for some lesser crime and then hope he gets the maximum sentence......but no way he gets convicted of murder.
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Mar 17, 2015 17:12
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Mahoning posted:I just can't imagine that a guy who openly admitted to dismembering a body and dumping it in the bay and still was found not-guilty of murder is going to get convicted of Susan Berman's murder. Absent some of of literal smoking gun, I can't imagine the LAPD has much else. Maybe if they try to get him for some lesser crime and then hope he gets the maximum sentence......but no way he gets convicted of murder. LAPD could've found other evidence we're not aware of.
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Mar 17, 2015 18:03
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Does anyone know if Kathie's mother is still alive? I'm incredibly invested in knowing that she's alive to see this poo poo happen.
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Mar 17, 2015 19:11
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There is no possible way this guy didn't murder three people. There's evidence the wife never goes into the city, yet he says he talks to her after putting her on a train. Oh also, he's got a history of domestic violence. And she wanted to leave him. And I'll bet anything he left some sort of DNA evidence at susans which led to his arrest again. Maybe it was a hoagie.
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Mar 17, 2015 22:08
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I wonder how good the supposed (unseen) evidence they have is. How much physical evidence can you suddenly get from a murder after nearly 15 years, anyway. The public evidence is really circumstantial and nothing his lawyers couldn't fairly easily argue against. The Morris Black case can't even enter into the proceedings since he was acquitted for the murder and never charged for the dismemberment, so in the eyes of the law all he's done is fleeing from justice, stolen a hoagie and allegedly pissed on a candy display at a store.
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Mar 17, 2015 22:27
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Stare-Out posted:I wonder how good the supposed (unseen) evidence they have is. How much physical evidence can you suddenly get from a murder after nearly 15 years, anyway. The public evidence is really circumstantial and nothing his lawyers couldn't fairly easily argue against. The Morris Black case can't even enter into the proceedings since he was acquitted for the murder and never charged for the dismemberment, so in the eyes of the law all he's done is fleeing from justice, stolen a hoagie and allegedly pissed on a candy display at a store. I think he's also been charged with firearm possession or something in NO.
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Mar 17, 2015 22:33
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Stare-Out posted:I wonder how good the supposed (unseen) evidence they have is. How much physical evidence can you suddenly get from a murder after nearly 15 years, anyway. The public evidence is really circumstantial and nothing his lawyers couldn't fairly easily argue against. The Morris Black case can't even enter into the proceedings since he was acquitted for the murder and never charged for the dismemberment, so in the eyes of the law all he's done is fleeing from justice, stolen a hoagie and allegedly pissed on a candy display at a store. Some sort of evidence they couldn't conclusively pin on him before the letter seems most likely. DNA maybe? Before the letter he could argue they were good friends anyway so finding his hair/skin/whatever around the house isn't that unusual.
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Mar 17, 2015 22:37
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The AP confused Fred Durst and Robert Durst and had to issue a correction today. http://entertainthis.usatoday.com/2015/03/17/ap-fred-durst-robert-durst/ -- This side by side photo makes it obvious how.
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xeria posted:I think he's also been charged with firearm possession or something in NO. axeil posted:Some sort of evidence they couldn't conclusively pin on him before the letter seems most likely. DNA maybe? Before the letter he could argue they were good friends anyway so finding his hair/skin/whatever around the house isn't that unusual. Stare-Out fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Mar 17, 2015 |
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Mar 17, 2015 22:37
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Let's talk about how hosed up it is that his mother was up on a roof getting ready to jump and his father gets him up out of bed to watch his mother die.
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Mar 17, 2015 22:45
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Mahoning posted:Let's talk about how hosed up it is that his mother was up on a roof getting ready to jump and his father gets him up out of bed to watch his mother die. What's even weirder is that he described it like it was his dad coming in there and going "Hey son, wake up and come look at your mom being crazy on the roof? Cool huh? Alright go on back to bed now" and that's just odd as hell.
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Mar 17, 2015 22:53
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illumn8d posted:The AP confused Fred Durst and Robert Durst and had to issue a correction today. Heh. You know, I've read Fred Durst's AMA and he actually seems to be a really chill, thoughtful dude.
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Mar 17, 2015 23:03
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Deadpool posted:What's even weirder is that he described it like it was his dad coming in there and going "Hey son, wake up and come look at your mom being crazy on the roof? Cool huh? Alright go on back to bed now" and that's just odd as hell. Durst's brother disputes this. He said the family's children were all whisked away to a neighbor's house during the whole ordeal and that Bob made that up to garner sympathy.
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Mar 17, 2015 23:05
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Deadpool posted:What's even weirder is that he described it like it was his dad coming in there and going "Hey son, wake up and come look at your mom being crazy on the roof? Cool huh? Alright go on back to bed now" and that's just odd as hell. When they interviewed Kathie's identical niece, I'm ashamed to say that my first thought was: They should dress her up as Kathie's ghost/zombie and have her confront Robert with his crimes in the middle of the night.
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Mar 17, 2015 23:06
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Stare-Out posted:Basically a bunch of really small charges and misdemeanors, nothing that comes even close to murder. I still think it's ludicrous that he wasn't charged for dismemberment at all. But double jeopardy still applies when it comes to Morris Black, right? Basically he's totally in the clear for that one? Or can they take it to the supreme court for a retrial or something? My knowledge of the US legal system comes from movies and TV, pretty much. In the U.S. if you are acquitted for a crime you cannot be charged with the same crime again. There's some weirdness around jurisdictions (if you murder a guy in Texas after driving him there from Oklahoma the Feds can charge and try you) but generally you can't be tried twice after receiving a not guilty verdict. I'm not a lawyer so I'm not sure about different degrees. E.g. if you're not guilty of 1st degree murder can you be tried under 2nd? My gut says no but I'm not sure. Ave Azaria posted:When they interviewed Kathie's identical niece, I'm ashamed to say that my first thought was: They should dress her up as Kathie's ghost/zombie and have her confront Robert with his crimes in the middle of the night. My first thought was "holy poo poo she looks just like Kathie." And then a sentence later she basically says "yeah a lot of the family says that  "axeil fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Mar 17, 2015 |
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Mar 17, 2015 23:10
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The charges in LA are murder under special circumstances: murder of a witness, lying in wait, use of a firearm. The first & last we could already figure; it's the second one that sounds oddly specific.
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Mar 17, 2015 23:12
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C2C - 2.0 posted:The charges in LA are murder under special circumstances: murder of a witness, lying in wait, use of a firearm. I don't think it's all of those, it's just that you can charge first with special when one of those things happens. And Susan was both a witness and shot...
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Mar 17, 2015 23:13
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Ave Azaria posted:
Never be ashamed of an idea this awesome. Besides, he already fell for one tv cliche trap, there's no reason to think he'd evade this Scooby Doo one.
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axeil posted:I don't think it's all of those, it's just that you can charge first with special when one of those things happens. And Susan was both a witness and shot... Unless things have changed, I just posted what the LA Times reported last night. Granted, I don't know what the bar is to meet "lying in wait".
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Mar 17, 2015 23:18
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This whole thing really reminds me of another millionaire, T. Cullen Davis. Not only did he get acquitted for killing his 12 year old stepdaughter (execution style) and ex-wife's boyfriend, he also got acquitted for hiring a hitman to kill the judge overseeing his divorce, even though he was caught on tape.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:Unless things have changed, I just posted what the LA Times reported last night. Granted, I don't know what the bar is to meet "lying in wait". Maybe Sareb is going to testify that Bob Durst was at Susan Berman's house when he left her and he had never told police because he thought Bob was innocent.
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It really makes me wonder how many wealthy murderers there are out there who weren't as stupid as Durst, and never even became suspects.
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Mar 17, 2015 23:32
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Ave Azaria posted:It really makes me wonder how many wealthy murderers there are out there who weren't as stupid as Durst, and never even became suspects. I remember reading some statistic about how the rate of sociopathy in murderers is only rivaled by the rate of sociopathy in investment bankers
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Mahoning posted:Maybe Sareb is going to testify that Bob Durst was at Susan Berman's house when he left her and he had never told police because he thought Bob was innocent. That'd be an interesting development. The brief time they spent showing how money might be the motivating factor behind Sareb not even considering Bob's guilt seemed like an afterthought, but that whole segment did have a weird vibe to it...as if something was being left unsaid.
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Ave Azaria posted:It really makes me wonder how many wealthy murderers there are out there who weren't as stupid as Durst, and never even became suspects. Well there's about 2,000 missing persons cases a year that go unresolved. So figure what a quarter? of those are people intentionally trying to drop off the grid and that leaves 1,750 potential homicides where there's no body. And when there's no body it's almost impossible to arrest, let alone convict. Toxxupation posted:I remember reading some statistic about how the rate of sociopathy in murderers is only rivaled by the rate of sociopathy in investment bankers  that's because both have the same rate of sociopathy as the general populace.
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Deadpool posted:What's even weirder is that he described it like it was his dad coming in there and going "Hey son, wake up and come look at your mom being crazy on the roof? Cool huh? Alright go on back to bed now" and that's just odd as hell. Robert Durst pushed his mother off the roof.
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Mar 18, 2015 01:00
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I love the attention to detail in this series. I was convinced of this when I noticed the Annie and Amadeus posters at the train station, both very appropriate to the time of Kathie's
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Mar 18, 2015 01:45
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Enjoyed this series despite what I thought was Jarecki's unnecessary insertion of himself in eps 2-5. When Durst starting retching at the end of ep 6, was anyone else reminded of The Act of Killing ?
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ozza posted:Enjoyed this series despite what I thought was Jarecki's unnecessary insertion of himself in eps 2-5. When Durst starting retching at the end of ep 6, was anyone else reminded of The Act of Killing ? Yes, definitely. I was gonna suggest this move to anyone who watches this and is into people being confronted with their crimes.
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What happened to his head?
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doomisland posted:What happened to his head? 
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Mar 18, 2015 05:52
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doomisland posted:What happened to his head? It's called a goatee.
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Wait are we talking about Jarecki or Morris Black
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Man, this is some seriously compelling tv. I really hope they finally charge him with these crimes and put this guy in a cell somewhere. It's a shame the judge'll probably throw the case out on account of the director's goatee.
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Steve Yun posted:Wait are we talking about Jarecki or Morris Black Why not both?
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