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goku im piss
Mar 18, 2005

Your mama was a snowblower

Frankenstyle posted:

It's pretty obvious that 49 out of 50 people who signed that petition heard it was to "Repeal the first amendment", and assumed it was a pro gun control petition. So yeah they're either just a little stupid, or just not paying attention and being led into a corner by the petitioner.

given the majorty of college students are children, and children are usually stupid, your theory is probably correct

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Dinosaurmageddon
Jul 7, 2007

by zen death robot
Hell Gem
Everything is perfectly fine because now we have enough channels that we never need to listen to others' free speech anyway. It's all this rampant commercialism-funded thinktank journalism thats gotten the public's discourse so diluted, not our own personal freedoms.

Let's amend to deny corporations personhood / free speech already.

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot
We need a new world war to kill off this generation.

opus111
Jul 6, 2014

Moridin920 posted:

the honors/AP kids weren't that smart, they would just grind homework while normal kids were grinding WoW. yeah there were a couple actual intelligent people in there but lol.

I hate to break this to you brah but normal kids werent grinding wow. You were not normal :(

Dinosaurmageddon
Jul 7, 2007

by zen death robot
Hell Gem
Sorry, I meant to type

McDonald's can go cuck a bag of ducks and we'll all clap and laugh while foxnews prepares the henhouse for slaughter. Sheeple are still people, my friends, so if we don't tend to our flocks and mind the path of the herd then we're all gonna get fleeced.

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

quote:

I decided to take this campus free speech debate to its logical conclusion

Nope.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

tmm3k posted:

Repeal the first and second amendments imo

Move the third amendment to the front it's the most important

yeah the single least-cited amendment in the entire constitution is incredibly important

I mean even if the government literally did turn into a totalitarian militarist stratocracy the third amendment would still mean jackshit because trying to domestically quarter troops in private residences in the 21st century would be completely pointless

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Microwaves Mom posted:

We need a new world war to kill off this generation.

please please please

Earwicker posted:

I think we should go ahead and abolish all of the amendments. When people have rights they gently caress it all up so we should go back to having kings and emperors.

:agreed:

ArtIsResistance
May 19, 2007

QUEEN OF FRANCE, SAVIOR OF LOWTAX

Haier posted:

LOL @ people who say this.

they should at least say pardner like a cowboy, cowboys are cool & not gay

Not_Rainbow_Horse
Nov 11, 2013

ArtIsResistance posted:

they should at least say pardner like a cowboy, cowboys are cool & not gay

some cowboys are gay, but that's ok because their so cool

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:
lol op reads fox news

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:
op aren't you like 19? fox news is for the OLD white bigots

what you want is breitbart.com, which is for the young white bigots

Archer666
Dec 27, 2008
Simplifying complex issues into GOOD and BAD is my fetish, please keep going.

glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot

Dinosaurmageddon posted:

Everything is perfectly fine because now we have enough channels that we never need to listen to others' free speech anyway. It's all this rampant commercialism-funded thinktank journalism thats gotten the public's discourse so diluted, not our own personal freedoms.

Let's amend to deny corporations personhood / free speech already.

what exactly do you mean by denying corporate personhood? like start calling them mentally ill degenerates?

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Must suck to be at a university or whatever and suddenly everything remotely connected to the student union is taken over by loudmouthed zealots who just harass everyone into giving up.

Baba Ganoush
Oct 12, 2014
Dinosaur Gum
"I'm a college student and am progressive the first amendment has set us back from a progressive thing I heard about in high school (in my ap class cuz im a genius)"

-millenial

Not_Rainbow_Horse
Nov 11, 2013

TacticalUrbanHomo posted:

some people have posited to me the argument that we need to be exposed to those ideas in order to know how and why they're bad, but 1) no we don't 2) I'm pretty sure like 99% of people will never read the Turner Diaries regardless and the people who do will only do so either because they've already bought into the ideology it's inspired by or because they already know it's horrific, 3) who gives a gently caress what we know about it if we know enough to actively repress it out of existence.

you have bad ideas.

glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot
The first amendment is the heart of the world's cancerous liberalism and the greatest enemy of full communism now :ussr:

Baba Ganoush
Oct 12, 2014
Dinosaur Gum
in my AP clasd.. and just FYI .. this class is only for very important american high school intellectuals.... they told me the constitution is sort of like 'kermit the frog' and if nyou took ap english you would know he's a guys that loves miss piggy but never gets het so it's sort of an evolving relationship. IE a living constitution

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Not_Rainbow_Horse posted:

you have bad ideas.

wouldn't it be great if people like me with bad ideas weren't able to invest lots of money in broadcasting them to millions of gullible idiots for the express purpose of sabotaging the country for personal or ideological benefit

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

TacticalUrbanHomo posted:

wouldn't it be great if people like me with bad ideas weren't able to invest lots of money in broadcasting them to millions of gullible idiots for the express purpose of sabotaging the country for personal or ideological benefit

The way the Founding Fathers intended.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

TacticalUrbanHomo posted:

wouldn't it be great if people like me with bad ideas weren't able to invest lots of money in broadcasting them to millions of gullible idiots for the express purpose of sabotaging the country for personal or ideological benefit

yeah, ideally it should be people like me with bad ideas getting into unelected civil service positions and broadcasting them to gullible idiots on the state censored news service

The Biscuit
Jul 2, 2007
Half of everything is luck.
gently caress this dead gay earth, at the point that Fox News has trigger warnings :suicide:

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:

The Biscuit posted:

gently caress this dead gay earth, at the point that Fox News has trigger warnings :suicide:

they are being sarcastic, because sarcasm belongs in journalism :downs:

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

goku im piss posted:

given the majorty of college students are children, and children are usually stupid, your theory is probably correct

Not just college students either. There was a old Man Show skit where they went around at some political rally looking to end women's suffrage or as they put it "The suffrage of women".

The Biscuit
Jul 2, 2007
Half of everything is luck.

A misanthrope posted:

they are being sarcastic, because sarcasm belongs in journalism :downs:

Fair. I know nothing of Fox apart from it being a right-wing paradise. So if they started that poo poo, then we would be at peak existence.

ty for soothing my world view A misanthrope.

Roy
Sep 24, 2007
The neat thing though, unless we have a communist revolution over night, odds are that a ban on free speech is mainly going to be used to silence liberals and progressives. That power is going straight to the conservative religious right and those with economic power.

Irl is sadly not an internet forum or a tumblr blog, real people with real power don't really care about lgbt rights and correct pronoun use.

It's just going to get even harder to talk about economic inequality than it is today.

A misanthrope posted:

op aren't you like 19? fox news is for the OLD white bigots

what you want is breitbart.com, which is for the young white bigots

Donald Trump is popular among the young. The right isn't just for old people anymore.

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

A misanthrope posted:

they are being sarcastic, because sarcasm belongs in journalism :downs:

the fact that there's a gigantic murdoch rag masquerading as a legitimate source of news that feels comfortable including broad-brush insults against wide demographics as part of its "journalistic" standards and is the most widely consumed "news" media in the country further supports my point. just saying.

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:

Roy posted:



Donald Trump is popular among the young. The right isn't just for old people anymore.

thats why i directed the op to breitbart.com for all his hip young hate needs

Minimalist Program
Aug 14, 2010
whats up with ulillilla these days

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope

symbolic posted:

catering to the millennial market, since they have lovely attention spans and can't read more than two paragraphs without switching to SnapChat or whatever

A short attention span is precisely why I don't want to watch a video. I want to skim an article for relevant information and then move on to the next thing.

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:

TacticalUrbanHomo posted:

the fact that there's a gigantic murdoch rag masquerading as a legitimate source of news that feels comfortable including broad-brush insults against wide demographics as part of its "journalistic" standards and is the most widely consumed "news" media in the country further supports my point. just saying.

exactly. fox news will always be more evil than whatever thing it is covering. they should be the focus of our hate here

Roy
Sep 24, 2007

A misanthrope posted:

thats why i directed the op to breitbart.com for all his hip young hate needs

sorry i was too angry about sjws to comprehend or even read your post

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Roy posted:

The neat thing though, unless we have a communist revolution over night, odds are that a ban on free speech is mainly going to be used to silence liberals and progressives.

Yeah communists have always loved personal freedoms and sexual expression

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:

Roy posted:

sorry i was too angry about sjws to comprehend or even read your post

hate for this non-threat is blinding you to the real issues. sjws are not the people who are destroying our country and the future of the middle class

namaste.

LordArgh
Mar 17, 2009

Nap Ghost

Minimalist Program posted:

whats up with ulillilla these days

i think he moved back in with his parents

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

A misanthrope posted:

hate for this non-threat is blinding you to the real issues. sjws are not the people who are destroying our country and the future of the middle class

namaste.

well

they're some of the people who are doing that

Killed a Girl in 96
Jun 15, 2001

DON'T STOP CAN'T STOP
i dont want to read a bunch of legal documents on the US constitution, but isn't free speech not entirely protected anyways? like you can't just go around saying whatever you want. you can't threaten the life of the president, you can't make oral contracts and then back out, and i'm pretty sure you can't promote outright racism against an entire group or attempt to incite a riot. so what exactly does free speech cover? political ideologies?

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:

Minimalist Program posted:

whats up with ulillilla these days

i dont know but i hope he's doin good


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Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

don't know why americans care so much about the first amendment. it always seems to me that they roll over whenever the president is in town or when the cops are fed up with an anti-war/police/corporation protest. we don't have the first amendment here, yet you can walk up to the prime minister and call him a dickhead.
checkmate amerifailures.

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