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ManDingo posted:I think the distinctions between Gary and the major parties is a little more than just weed. He's also the only candidate against foreign military intervention, the surveillance state, big business exploiting regulation to their own benefit among others. When he says he's "against foreign military intervention", does that include not sending pmc's? Because I remember a similar stance from Ron Paul.
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Ogmius815 posted:Except his solution to regulatory capture is "no more regulations" which is actually worse. I have not heard him say anything about eliminating all regulations. I'm pretty sure New Mexico still had regulations during his term. I actually would trust him more than Trump/Clinton on the environment because he obviously has a greater appreciation for it given all the crazy poo poo he's done, mountain biking, climbing, ultra marathons, etc. mike12345 posted:When he says he's "against foreign military intervention", does that include not sending pmc's? Because I remember a similar stance from Ron Paul. He hasn't made a distinction from what I've seen or heard which of course is pretty limited given his media exposure. Again contrasting that with Clinton who at one time oversaw the worlds largest private army I am not overly concerned about it. https://www.wired.com/2011/07/iraq-merc-army/
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Jul 1, 2016 15:34
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Oh and he'll be on Real Time with Bill Maher this evening. 
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ManDingo posted:Oh and he'll be on Real Time with Bill Maher this evening. I'd be interested in hearing more from Gary Johnson but I can't stomach Bill Maher. I'm frankly surprised that there's enough people that enjoy hearing his bullshit to keep him on air.
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CyclicalAberration posted:I'd be interested in hearing more from Gary Johnson but I can't stomach Bill Maher. I'm frankly surprised that there's enough people that enjoy hearing his bullshit to keep him on air. he was the opening interview guest it was mostly about how crazy trump is and to a lesser extent how crazy the libertarian party is, which johnson doesn't disagree with plus he mentioned setting a target of 20% reduction in defense spending
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Gary Johnson and the libertarian party are really extra garbage which makes me sad to see my desperate bernout university friends reposting his poo poo because he loves weed and doesn't like war
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Jul 2, 2016 16:08
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Our fate is to live in a more advanced version of Putin's Russia with an American flag
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How did NMs economy fair under Johnson, anyways?
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Thump! posted:How did NMs economy fair under Johnson, anyways? Honestly it doesn't matter. Watch the Samantha bee interview where they go rock climbing and tell me he isn't a walking sex scandal waiting to happen. Do it with a straight face for bonus points.
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Jul 3, 2016 11:22
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Gary "#FeelMyJohnson" Johnson is a moderate Republican who couldn't cut it as a viable candidate in the presidential primaries, so he attached himself to the one popular conservative third party and only gets by on the fact that he's the only person there who has any actual political experience. He disagrees with like 75% of the actual Libertarian Party stances on issues; which is why every other Libertarian primary candidate ran on "I'm a real Libertarian candidate and it's not fair that that hack Johnson is so popular! End the fed, donate with altcoins, colloidal silver, Ron Paul 4 Ever." But when your only other viable options were either McAfee or a Fox News hack, well...
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Jul 3, 2016 17:12
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CyclicalAberration posted:I'd be interested in hearing more from Gary Johnson but I can't stomach Bill Maher. I'm frankly surprised that there's enough people that enjoy hearing his bullshit to keep him on air. It's the first time I've seen his show. They actually had a segment photoshoping movie posters.
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Thump! posted:How did NMs economy fair under Johnson, anyways? https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/ 
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Thump! posted:How did NMs economy fair under Johnson, anyways? still based entirely on the sale of ceramic "gray" or "schwa" shaped alien heads, but that would be the case no matter who was governor or what their agenda was
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ManDingo posted:He's also the only candidate against foreign military intervention, the surveillance state *AHEM* firebeats has issued a correction as of 21:10 on Jul 4, 2016 |
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YF19pilot posted:Gary "#FeelMyJohnson" Johnson is a moderate Republican who couldn't cut it as a viable candidate in the presidential primaries, so he attached himself to the one popular conservative third party and only gets by on the fact that he's the only person there who has any actual political experience. He disagrees with like 75% of the actual Libertarian Party stances on issues; which is why every other Libertarian primary candidate ran on "I'm a real Libertarian candidate and it's not fair that that hack Johnson is so popular! End the fed, donate with altcoins, colloidal silver, Ron Paul 4 Ever." Well real Libertarians are batshit insane so...
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Jul 5, 2016 01:39
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Gary Johnson is unpopular among Libertarians for his stances like "we should have drivers' licenses" and "the Civil Rights Act was good".
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gret posted:Well real Libertarians are batshit insane so... I know. I did detailed write ups of every Libertarian primary candidate in the Libertarian/Jrode thread. Here's the start, just view my post history to skip to the good stuff. The Libertarian candidates fell into three categories this year: Gary Johnson, insane, and former Fox News employee (not that these categories are mutually exclusive, mind you). It's still hilarious that my Libertarian friends keep sending me memes that say "Vote for Gary Johnson; he climbed a bunch of mountains!" And by "Libertarian" I mean Cruz supporters who can't get behind Trump.
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I think Gary is getting good poll numbers not just because of the Trump blowback but because there is certainly political space for a non-insane suburban libertarianism along the lines of 'let me smoke weed, lower my taxes, and stop spying on me' that neither major party is covering. My guess is that this is the path the post-Trump Paul Ryan GOP will start leaning into in the next couple of years. Like there will always be a small group of purestrain libertarian guys that obsesses over the literal meaning of the Constitution. There is probably a much larger group of voters that want to do things like cut the living poo poo out of 'wasteful' spending like defense and focus government on very governmenty things, like roads and bridges and whatnot.
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Goetta posted:. . . there is certainly political space for a non-insane suburban libertarianism along the lines of 'let me smoke weed, lower my taxes, and stop spying on me' that neither major party is covering. My guess is that this is the path the post-Trump Paul Ryan GOP will start leaning into in the next couple of years. . . . There is probably a much larger group of voters that want to do things like cut the living poo poo out of 'wasteful' spending like defense and focus government on very governmenty things, like roads and bridges and whatnot. oh my god I wish I shared your optimism. I don't even care about the lower taxes part, because you have to collect money to have more money to spend, and there's no way in hell we ever reduce defense spending by a meaningful degree, but if there was a candidate who was seriously going to be the infrastructure candidate, that would get my heart all a'twitter
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If you watch the Overtime session with Bill Maher, Gary got a question about the Libertarian party's position on climate change. He said climate change is real, but the party doesn't have a position, however the free market will solve it 
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Goetta posted:There is probably a much larger group of voters that want to do things like cut the living poo poo out of 'wasteful' spending like defense and focus government on very governmenty things, like roads and bridges and whatnot. Gary Johnson (and nearly all libertarians) want to disband nearly every agency and department in the federal government so they can cut taxes to nothing and let Mad Max come true, this isn't happening any time soon
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I stand corrected, 2 candidates.
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YF19pilot posted:And by "Libertarian" I mean Cruz supporters who can't get behind Trump. Do they know he's pro baby killing?
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what does gary johnson think of ga(r)y marriage
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point of return posted:what does gary johnson think of ga(r)y marriage The party doesn't have a position but the free market will solve it
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Oh.  poo poo.
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It's obviously a photoshop. He's wearing dress shoes for Christ's sake!
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XyrlocShammypants posted:The party doesn't have a position but the free market will solve it Good position because is what solved it irl. There was enough demand, one state legalized it, everyone got married there, more states legalized it, the US adopted it as an official law. Done. Same will happen with weed.
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Itshappening dot gary
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That's awesome! If Johnson gets into the debates, if Weld gets into the VP debates, it could really gently caress with Trump's numbers and help push civil liberties issues. I'm really pulling for the Libertarians right now
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ManDingo posted:He's also the only candidate against foreign military intervention, If Russia invades Estonia does Gary Johnson believe we should fulfill our NATO obligations?
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The polls that have Gary getting 10% are loving crazy He'll be lucky to pull 2 or 3% and that's really bad news for Clinton
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KaptainKrunk posted:The polls that have Gary getting 10% are loving crazy Unless that's what you meant than namaste.
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Nah, I meant how a lot of models (specifically Nate Silver's) have Johnson pulling 5%+ or even 10% which just won't happen. There's also 0% chance that the networks let him in the debates when Trump v. Hillary will be the greatest ratings heavyweight fight of this century. He doesn't have any real exposure and the average voter doesn't know who the gently caress he is. Most people upset with HRC and Trump are more likely to stay home and not vote than go out and vote for him or Stein. Obviously it's just one poll, but take Quinnipiac's latest poll for PA - HRC 34%, Trump 40%, Johnson 9%. That's bad news for Clinton because there's no loving way Johnson gets 9% and most of the people who say they would vote for him either won't vote or will vote Trump.
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KaptainKrunk posted:Obviously it's just one poll, but take Quinnipiac's latest poll for PA - HRC 34%, Trump 40%, Johnson 9%. That's bad news for Clinton because there's no loving way Johnson gets 9% and most of the people who say they would vote for him either won't vote or will vote Trump. 538 looked at the numbers and, so far at least, Johnson seems to be taking slightly more support from Hillary than Trump: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-is-gary-johnson-taking-more-support-from-clinton-or-trump/ In the Quinn poll you're referring to, for example, Trump was +2 against Hillary only (43% - 41%), but +6 against Hillary when Johnson and Stein were included (40% T, 34% C, 9% J, 3% S) I wouldn't worry too much (according to current polls, at least) about the undecided/3rd party vote breaking to Trump
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KaptainKrunk posted:Nah, I meant how a lot of models (specifically Nate Silver's) have Johnson pulling 5%+ or even 10% which just won't happen. There's also 0% chance that the networks let him in the debates when Trump v. Hillary will be the greatest ratings heavyweight fight of this century. God help us all.
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ThndrShk2k posted:I find it weird he'd pull more from clinton, but I guess that's independent voters vs conservative. The people I know voting for Johnson consider themselves independent, but vote straight R every time. This year they're jumping ship because they voted for Ted Cruz in the primary and are die hard against Trump and Clinton. Then you have Bernie Bros who are threatening to vote Johnson in protest of Clinton, because they've been reading "news" from anti-Clinton sources trying to cherry pick and invent a story out of the Wikileaks emails.
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