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Ketchup is just sugar paste and odds are your taste buds have just been inundated with sugar for your whole life. Seriously try cutting the sugar out for 2-3 weeks and see if you are still super gung-ho about ketchup on all your food after that. It has its place but the people who literally put it on everything they eat are kinda gross.
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Smash it Smash hit posted:if its so bad then why do they have it as an option? I mean I've seen bars that have gross gimmick shots like Cement Mixers on the menu, so the answer is probably "because people with no taste buds will pay for it" Technically getting the steak completely uncooked is an option too, but I wouldn't recommend it (unless it's like beef tartare or something)
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Oct 3, 2016 17:22
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Smash it Smash hit posted:if its so bad then why do they have it as an option? 'Cuz if someone wants to order well-done that lets you get rid of the not so nicely marbled stuff for the same price? quote:the answer is probably "because people with no taste buds will pay for it" Pretty much.
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Oct 3, 2016 17:23
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Roylicious posted:Ketchup is just sugar paste and odds are your taste buds have just been inundated with sugar for your whole life. Seriously try cutting the sugar out for 2-3 weeks and see if you are still super gung-ho about ketchup on all your food after that. It has its place but the people who literally put it on everything they eat are kinda gross. a day without ketchup is like a day without sunshine.  Kelp Me! posted:I mean I've seen bars that have gross gimmick shots like Cement Mixers on the menu, so the answer is probably "because people with no taste buds will pay for it" well if all chefs hate it then they should have never offered it in the first place 
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Oct 3, 2016 17:24
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I mostly see Americans with this opinion so maybe their ketchup is worse than ketchup elsewhere. Like this "lol ketchup is sugar paste" thing, there are a lot of ketchups with no added sugar.
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Oct 3, 2016 17:25
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Smash it Smash hit posted:well if all chefs hate it then they should have never offered it in the first place Technically all they ask is 'how do you want it done?' Thoughtless posted:I mostly see Americans with this opinion so maybe their ketchup is worse than ketchup elsewhere. You're European (?) and you guys have fake ketchup and you dunno what you're talking about. Not trying to be rude it's just true Euro ketchup and US ketchup are basically entirely different things. Also tomatos have sugar in them naturally so it's still pretty much sugar paste either way really yours just isn't as sweet. e: besides Euros can't make a steak to save their lives anyway. it's universally too thin and overdone over there so yeah ofc you put ketchup on it. Roylicious fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Oct 3, 2016 |
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Oct 3, 2016 17:25
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wghat im trying to say is that why is well done on the chart if its so terrible? why not just stop at medium well?
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Oct 3, 2016 17:30
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the answer is because some people find it v tasty
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Oct 3, 2016 17:31
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Thoughtless posted:I mostly see Americans with this opinion so maybe their ketchup is worse than ketchup elsewhere. wait people who aren't american eat ketchup? 
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Oct 3, 2016 17:32
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Smash it Smash hit posted:the answer is because some people find it v tasty If you're in a not-so-nice place the answer is so they can re-fire that overdone steak that has been sitting in the window for the last 30-40 minutes and get profit out of it versus tossing it. Honestly it *is* possible to make a piece of meat well done and still have it be tasty and moist but it's preeeetty hard to do and most cooks assume it can't be done period. But if you're in a place so nice they can actually do you a good well-done, it's really a shame to actually order well-done because odds are the meat is so frickin' good and well marbled that you're really just missing out.
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Oct 3, 2016 17:33
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i eat steak well done because thats what i've always done *posted from my drive to whites only county club*
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Oct 3, 2016 17:34
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i like to cook my steaks medium and then put a nice ketchup glaze on the top, toss that in the salamander, get a nice caramelzation and BON APE TIT
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Oct 3, 2016 17:35
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People who dont cook their meat all the way through prob have parasites. "I took this steak off the grill only cooking it half way. Im super cultured" How hipster of you
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Oct 3, 2016 17:35
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i'm so mad guys, I think I'm melting down I'm melting down right in this thread!!!!
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Oct 3, 2016 17:37
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loquacius posted:wait Yes but ours has less sugar, more tomatoes and more other spices. I never actually knew that euro and US ketchups were different before this thread so 
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Oct 3, 2016 17:38
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TheLightPurges posted:People who dont cook their meat all the way through prob have parasites. Okay okay, but I'll counter you with "people who need every piece of meat they eat charred to a tasteless mass are just pathetic scared toddlers who might as well just stick to jars of baby food if they're too scared to eat like an adult." Okay now your turn again.
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Oct 3, 2016 17:41
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bag em and tag em posted:Okay okay, but I'll counter you with "people who need every piece of meat they eat charred to a tasteless mass are just pathetic scared toddlers who might as well just stick to jars of baby food if they're too scared to eat like an adult." live and let live, people enjoying a nice delciious well done steak with a ketchup infused reduction is none of your business
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Oct 3, 2016 17:42
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According to the USDA, the definition of well-done meat is "gray-brown throughout; firm" if that sounds like what a steak should look and feel like to you I dunno what to tell you  e: I mean if you're ok with cooking a $15 cut of meat to the point where it looks and tastes like a Hungry Man Salisbury Steak TV dinner more power to you, but lol at the idea that cooking it properly is some hipster ideal and not the universally recognized best way to enjoy the meat Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Oct 3, 2016 |
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Oct 3, 2016 17:48
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Kelp Me! posted:According to the USDA, the definition of well-done meat is "gray-brown throughout; firm" idk i met alot of hipsters that would eat well done steaks ironically  with no ketchup either ugh idiots
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Oct 3, 2016 17:58
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Smash it Smash hit posted:idk i met alot of hipsters that would eat well done steaks ironically that seems more along the lines of hipster behavior tbh, I believe it
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Oct 3, 2016 17:59
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Imagine being so impatient for your food that you only cook it 1/3rd-1/2 the time necessary. Possibly ingesting parasites. And then bragging about it. Its childish.
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Oct 3, 2016 18:01
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TheLightPurges posted:Imagine being so impatient for your food that you only cook it 1/3rd-1/2 the time necessary. Possibly ingesting parasites. And then bragging about it. Its childish. i literally cant
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Oct 3, 2016 18:02
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TheLightPurges posted:Imagine being so impatient for your food that you only cook it 1/3rd-1/2 the time necessary. Possibly ingesting parasites. And then bragging about it. Its childish. imagine having so little concept of good meat that you can literally eat a charcoal brick fill with gray mystery meat and call it tasty
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Oct 3, 2016 18:05
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I would probably kill myself if I grew up with some of your people, I'm just imagining you all yelling at your kids after they put some ketchup on their fries.
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Oct 3, 2016 18:06
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on fries i just yell, on steak they get the belt
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Oct 3, 2016 18:08
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lol im not letting little hayden have anything fried or any sugar becasue i am a hippy piece of s that likes to huff their own farts up here in the west coast
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Oct 3, 2016 18:10
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 The same people who mock picky eaters can't even handle a well done steak with ketchup themselves...
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Oct 3, 2016 18:10
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mayo is superior to ketchup for fry dipping.
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Oct 3, 2016 18:10
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shoophobo posted:mayo is superior to ketchup for fry dipping. Sorry that ketchup is too spicy for you.
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Oct 3, 2016 18:13
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shoophobo posted:mayo is superior to ketchup for fry dipping. If we're talking fries the ultimate treat is dipping them in a McD's chocolate shake 
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Oct 3, 2016 18:15
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TheLightPurges posted:Ketchup has 52 carefully balanced herbs and spices that took decades to perfect. Hmmmmmm, source?
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Oct 3, 2016 18:15
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Malt vinegar, some salt and ketchup for fries. I will fight you IRL, to defend the honor of my fries.
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Oct 3, 2016 18:15
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I don't have an opinion about the topic of the thread but my sister used to get slices of bread and put ketchup on them. That's it.. that was her meal. Ketchup bread. I still gag slightly when I think about it.
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Oct 3, 2016 18:16
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Panfilo posted:
Its ridiculous. Like the second anything becomes more complicated than one flavor they flip out. My autistic cousin can handle a flavor profile like sweet/savory. Why can't these guys.
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Oct 3, 2016 18:16
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kimbo305 posted:Hmmmmmm, source? heh. maybe read a book sometime?
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Oct 3, 2016 18:17
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Smash it Smash hit posted:lol im not letting little hayden have anything fried or any sugar becasue i am a hippy piece of s that likes to huff their own farts up here in the west coast I can't have meals with these people with foods that make them fart because im allergic to horsecum
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Oct 3, 2016 18:18
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TheLightPurges posted:Its ridiculous. Like the second anything becomes more complicated than one flavor they flip out. My autistic cousin can handle a flavor profile like sweet/savory. Why can't these guys. 
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Oct 3, 2016 18:20
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Does ketchup have a place as an ingredient when cooking? Like as part of a sauce?
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Smash it Smash hit posted:if its so bad then why do they have it as an option? So they know which plate they can spit in?
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I absolutely hate the taste of food. I loving hate it. I need sugar on it to make it palatable. Food is poo poo! my tongue has died a slow death ketchup is the only way now
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