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phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY

Waffle House posted:

Anyway, I can't wait to see what the spi cy discourse is like in this thread. And the memes????
Did someone tell you you were funny or something? They were playing a mean trick on you.

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Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

phasmid posted:

Did someone tell you you were funny or something? They were playing a mean trick on you.

:ironicat:

ProperCauldron
Oct 11, 2004

nah chill
Whichever you decide, try to mostly keep that poo poo to yourself in any professional capacity. Even in NYC, I've had many bosses, managers, executives, board members, and landlords who would get redeyed and immediately transformed to a state of rage at even the hint of thoughts like "Voting for a democrat" or "I agree with liberals on so-and-so issue" or "the rich are not hardworking geniuses" or any bad word for any Republican politician or candidate past or present.

College students are going to seem childish, misinformed, delusional, and overdramatic but please understand that the so-called Real World of adulthood is going to be all those things on steroids.


holy poo poo , nevermind, i'm changing my answer to this. Be this, OP. Be this but louder

Junkfist posted:

Alternatively whatever goofy poo poo this is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOk6HB609po

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY
Ya know, you basically told me to off myself just for alluding to overpopulation. That IS the biggest problem our world faces and nobody's in the mood to solve it. So how about a cute little quip back at you? I'll lead by example if you cuff your wrist to mine before I jump off a cliff or whatever.

The Glumslinger posted:

Be a true rebel and pick moderate centrism

Nothing will piss people off faster than that
Quoted for truth.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
everyone in college is left wing. join the Jr Republicans be be a real rebel :twisted:

Telephones
Apr 28, 2013
Hello Trump friends, I just wanted to let you know that your idol swills trash and is really uh... you know, dementia, alzheimer'd, i dont know the appropriate terminology.

Choose Communism.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

phasmid posted:

Ya know, you basically told me to off myself just for alluding to overpopulation. That IS the biggest problem our world faces and nobody's in the mood to solve it. So how about a cute little quip back at you? I'll lead by example if you cuff your wrist to mine before I jump off a cliff or whatever.

Actually world population is set to stabilize around 11billion by around 2100. Probably less with as-yet unaccounted for effects of climate change.

I told you off because dramatically decreasing world population is tantamount to a few genocides, and people who suggest genocide as a solution should always be encouraged to lead by example. :shrug:

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


phasmid posted:

Ya know, you basically told me to off myself just for alluding to overpopulation

quote:

That said, I also want the global population to be dramatically reduced so everyone left can have more space and more stuff.

phasmid, an extremely rational person, takes his nihilism with a heaping tablespoon of masturbatory survivalist fantasy

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
What do you call a survivalist fantasy where you don't really want or expect to survive and just want to see the society collapse on itself before ending the blight of human existence?

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Actually world population is set to stabilize around 11billion by around 2100. Probably less with as-yet unaccounted for effects of climate change.

I told you off because dramatically decreasing world population is tantamount to a few genocides, and people who suggest genocide as a solution should always be encouraged to lead by example. :shrug:

How the hell is having fewer kids equivalent to genocide?

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
wild west libertarianism, or baroque stalinism

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Colonel Cancer posted:

What do you call a survivalist fantasy where you don't really want or expect to survive and just want to see the society collapse on itself before ending the blight of human existence?

Supervillainy

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

The Dennis System posted:

How the hell is having fewer kids equivalent to genocide?

Please explain how long it would take for "having fewer kids" to "dramatically reduced" "global population". Because we already have fewer kids and that just leads to stabilization at around 11b by 2100. I'd bet your answer will be way more than phasmid's remaining lifetime, hence his pleasure requires genocide.

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
the solution to overpopulation isn't not having more children, it's having children then killing ourselves. in thr event our nerves fail us, the un must put a new condo on every building and promote bug eating on all channels, public and cable.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY

Fair enough. I'd like to add that I don't consider myself better or more deserving of being spared than anybody else. If the impression was that I wanted to sit in a garden drinking wine while people were dying, let me say that's not the case. It's pretty much a non-starter no matter what because nobody wants genocide (especially on such a large scale that the survivors would probably be...well, "depressed" seems like an insufficient word).

My statement was pretty much just my ideal: fewer people, fewer problems. But like you say, there's really no way to cull ourselves that's moral and fair so we have to let nature do the culling for us. Which is also going to suck bigtime.

Waffle House posted:

phasmid, an extremely rational person, takes his nihilism with a heaping tablespoon of masturbatory survivalist fantasy
lol yeah, I fantasize about the wonderful quality of life underground, eating algae with the morlocks after nuclear bombs destroy the surface. You're dumb.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Please explain how long it would take for "having fewer kids" to "dramatically reduced" "global population". Because we already have fewer kids and that just leads to stabilization at around 11b by 2100. I'd bet your answer will be way more than phasmid's remaining lifetime, hence his pleasure requires genocide.
Oh wow. To think I wrote that stuff thinking we misunderstood eachother, when you're just as fond of jumping to conclusions as that other guy is.

Dude, if I lusted for death all I'd have to do is sit back and watch the news. There's plenty of genocides already. And "pleasure"? gently caress you.

Telephones
Apr 28, 2013

Orkin Mang posted:

the solution to overpopulation isn't not having more children, it's having children then killing ourselves. in thr event our nerves fail us, the un must put a new condo on every building and promote bug eating on all channels, public and cable.

good post. i wanted to add: as an alternative to to having children then killing ourselves, I suggest killing children if you have them, and then killing yourself. This, I think, is the best way to help our society. Thanks!

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


phasmid posted:

lol yeah, I fantasize about the wonderful quality of life underground, eating algae with the morlocks after nuclear bombs destroy the surface. You're dumb.

Altho some excellent H.G. Wellsposting.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY
He also held little hope for the future, but he was less bitter in his youth.

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


Some considerable prior art for later scientists to consider, too. Pedrails and Land Ironclads.

Telephones
Apr 28, 2013
Communism. Anarchy? No, depression, that's rebellion. Everyone's doing it.

The Dennis System
Aug 4, 2014

Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Please explain how long it would take for "having fewer kids" to "dramatically reduced" "global population". Because we already have fewer kids and that just leads to stabilization at around 11b by 2100. I'd bet your answer will be way more than phasmid's remaining lifetime, hence his pleasure requires genocide.

Maybe you’re right. I didn’t actually read much of Phasmid’s posts before I responded to you lol.

Tiresias2
May 31, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

DoctorStrangelove posted:

The thing about this is that anarchy actually is not just raw human nature. Humans naturally will form societies. They will naturally want to develop the complexity of those societies. Anarchy can only last so for so long because people will want to form organized societies because having social organization allows for more complex economic activity to happen and therefor making their lives better.

Basically anarchism is really dumb and actually highly unnatural.

Isn't that kind of assuming that people necessarily, as a collective, can't or won't develop more autonomous and self-sufficient personalities under any circumstances?

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Honky Dong Country posted:

I finished this for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtqGTn7PCBw

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

phasmid posted:

One could argue the same for the city-states that required chattel slavery and large-scale warfare that came about after the stone age.

In our weird modern world, both idealism and nihilism are treated with scorn. The alternative is a kind of pragmatism that says "take what you can" and that doesn't really gel with the stories (real and fictitious) that our societies are based on. Guess what I'm saying is that if there was some kind of obvious way out, we'd have found it. We've trapped ourselves imo and we're just going to have to keep moving and see what happens (and the dark ages didn't really end so much as they got slightly brighter).

try dialectical materialism bra

idealism is trash

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Top City Homo posted:

try dialectical materialism bra

idealism is trash

i can prove my mind exists. you can't prove the material world exists. your "materialism" is nothing but superstition :colbert:

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax
Long after anarchism has withered away, the dream of anarchy will live on.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar
People are selfish morons so communism or anarchy will never work and only children and pseudo-intellectuals embrace them.

The way of the future is the so-called "new world order" OP, with the USA leading it. Stop fighting it and get on the right side.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Tell everyone you meet that you're a Minecraft Anarchist.

When they look confused and ask what you mean that's when you pull out your pick axe and start swinging wildly at them while screaming "I want your meat". After killing them set fire to the nearest flammable objects and sear their flesh however you prefer your steaks.

In the dystopian far (near) future everything is just resources.

EvilBlackRailgun
Jan 28, 2007


Both out you as a scared child

Now you know op

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011

yeah I eat rear end posted:

People are selfish morons so communism or anarchy will never work and only children and pseudo-intellectuals embrace them.

The way of the future is the so-called "new world order" OP, with the USA leading it. Stop fighting it and get on the right side.

‘People being inherently selfish is why I support capitalism’ -an idiot

Hardawn
Mar 15, 2004

Don't look at the sun, but rather what it illuminates
College Slice
So like hairy clean of the people pussy or clothespins through the labia majora living on the street dirt pussy?

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar

A Typical Goon posted:

‘People being inherently selfish is why I support capitalism’ -an idiot

That's not what I said. I didn't even mention capitalism.

504
Feb 2, 2016

by R. Guyovich
Anarchy is what edgy teens and unstable adults like.

Communism is what adult that utterly ignore faults like.


Take your pick.

Arri
Jun 11, 2005
NpNp
Anarchism is true communism so no need to choose, hth.

A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011

yeah I eat rear end posted:

That's not what I said. I didn't even mention capitalism.

‘I don’t know what a paraphrase is’ - an idiot

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar

A Typical Goon posted:

‘I don’t know what a paraphrase is’ - an idiot

Capitalism is good but not for that reason specifically. That's just what makes certain people successful under it.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

A Typical Goon posted:

‘People being inherently selfish is why I support capitalism’ -an idiot

What's a good political system for funneling people's selfishness to the betterment of society?

Perry Mason Jar
Feb 24, 2006

"Della? Take a lid"

504 posted:

Communism is what adult that utterly ignore faults like.

:ironicat:

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

fruit on the bottom posted:

Anarchy is really more of a teenage/high school epoch.

I don't know things are so hosed up globally "burn all standing governments" is starting to sound a little more reasonable

That said I think the OP should just start rallying for a Matriarchal Dictatorship because I bet you could get a couple dozen dumb as gently caress college students to get behind your cause. Or a Patriarchal one, if you rather piss them all off.

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A Typical Goon
Feb 25, 2011

Absurd Alhazred posted:

What's a good political system for funneling people's selfishness to the betterment of society?

socialism

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