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I used to work for a company that somehow got away with not only never offering any kind of health insurance but also not even paying for sick days. If you get a cold, you can go ahead and take a couple days off but you won’t get paid. So naturally people who would otherwise quarantine themselves at home would come in to work coughing and sneezing all over the place and everyone would get sick.
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my company pays me to sit around posting and playing video games because it's billable to clients.
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Over There posted:I get New Years and Christmas off. 2 days? gently caress. I'm off from the 21st to the 2nd.
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Fortunately my company of 100 employees is still stuck in the past in many ways, including making me the manager and letting me help my employees so they do a better job by working happier.
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Three Olives posted:2 days? gently caress. I'm off from the 21st to the 2nd. Newbie, I get 15th to the 2nd and Thanksgiving week bro and I'm in America, come at me dawg.
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i work a total of 6 hours every week. i bullshit with my coworkers and browse reddit the rest of the 31.5 hours im in the office
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ELO Musk posted:Fortunately my company of 100 employees is still stuck in the past in many ways, including making me the manager and letting me help my employees so they do a better job by working happier. Enjoy it while it lasts
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Dec 20, 2018 18:23
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It's pretty sick working for a company that still offers christmas bonuses, pay for holidays you don't work, free coffee and regular parties, and offers the ability to work with employees to make sure everyone's individual needs are met (exhausting though) to ensure that you retain people and keep morale high. The only thing from the OP that seems to hit us is point 1 because they hadn't really integrated technology into anything here and now that we are the systems need a ton of work to get them where they need to be. I think this lean poo poo happens the bigger your company is/the further removed the higher ups are from the ops of the company. I don't think it's a foreign concept to keep your employees happy because how they feel is how they'll act and is how it will translate to the customers and the product you offer.
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Dec 20, 2018 18:29
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My company does poo poo like buys 60,000 dollar pieces of analytical laboratory equipment that nobody asked for and will never be used enough to justify the cost, then stops providing plastic cutlery, paper towels, and ziploc baggies cause hey we’re green now.
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ELO Musk posted:It's pretty sick working for a company that still offers christmas bonuses, pay for holidays you don't work, free coffee and regular parties, and offers the ability to work with employees to make sure everyone's individual needs are met (exhausting though) to ensure that you retain people and keep morale high. Did you write this on a type writer? Your bens are ok but nothing great. Free coffee and parties, paid holidays? lol
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Dec 20, 2018 18:39
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As usual what started with a reasonable cause was taken too far by greed
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Taima posted:Did you write this on a type writer? Your bens are ok but nothing great. Free coffee and parties, paid holidays? lol It goes far beyond that, just hitting on the points in the op, lol
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Take your dick out bro, let's measure dawg. I'm on vacay until january bro. Let's measure biceps and our dicks, nothing gay just 2 guys comparing assets and having a good morning. e: If it goes far beyond that, whip that dick out and talk about it. I wanna see it for research reasons, nothing homosexual. Then I'll whip my dick out and do the same, again, nothing untowards. Taima fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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Thin Privilege posted:You had a manager that you could count on to take care of you and who you could call a friend? Get them the hell out of there and put someone in who only looks at numbers. The old boss here used to be my dad, who fuckin hated corporate bullshit so he told the corporate managers to get bent and stood up for the guys Then he died and the replacement is a lily-livered coward who is afraid to take responsibility for anything so he just flops over for corporate and then lets all the poo poo get dumped on us. When someone complains about it, he shuts down and says "well that's just how it is and it won't change!!!"
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I don't ever work in the private sector for more than 6 months at a time and only as a contractor/consultant and I've worked for some really loving stupid "lean" companies that are usually loving up by even hiring me in the first place Like hey, maybe instead of hiring a consultant at 3x the hourly rate of a full time employee to come unfuck your GIS each year maybe just hire a full-time employee, thus saving money and getting more done??? Like I say these words out loud to my own potential detriment all the time and at best they say they don't have the budget/expertise to hire someone in my industry (except me, apparently?) and at worst they accuse me of trying to trick them into hiring me permanently for their lovely company at a severely reduced rate. They also don't understand investing in better technology "Hey, if you put down $15,000 in this industry standard software and tech and train your 10 relevant employees to use it at the cost of 2 hours training per employee, you could save $300,000 over the next 2 years and I've laid out exactly how in this helpful presentation" "Hmmm, no, I think we should keep hitting our heads against rocks, that worked for us in the 80s" Why the gently caress did you even hire me?
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Long term full employment in the US has caused small upward pressure on salary and wages. Benefits are also more expensive due to higher cost of healthcare. This has a negative impact on cost of sales and higher material costs are further eroding margins. Rather than accepting this as a new normal, stupendously rich companies are looking for marginal cost savings at the expense of worker amenities. Lean is defect and therefore cost reduction. It should be good but none of that cost savings is passed to the direct labor workers, its passed to upper management and shareholders.
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Why does it say theres a post but there isn't e: nvm now it shows up
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Three Olives posted:It's a legal defense fund for HOAs. You are a caricature of a caricature of yourself.
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No. I don't like the industry I'm in but this is a really nice place to work. We do catered meals at least every other week, getting new supplies or whatever is painless. We're treated like humans. I don't even go back to work until after the new year.
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Really the only thing from the OP that applies to my job is the survey thing, although they count 9 the same as a 10.
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Rutibex posted:why would anyone want to be like the Japanese? Their economy has been stagnant for like 30 years Conservative / libertarian types who want to roll back regulations to the point that orphaned prepubescent children can legally be employed full time in coal mines again, while they themselves expect to reside in the upper tiers of a re-established caste system, absolutely slaver with envy at how Japanese salarymen have a culturally ingrained acceptance of 70 hour work-weeks.
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My company had an amazingly good year back in 2016, and now is trying to keep share holders happy by stripping out all internal things to maintain the illusion. We are still making a billion dollars a year profit, but its not as much as it was in 2016, so us peons are getting hosed over.
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My company stays lean by hiring contractors and then scheduling them as full-time employees by proxy, just without PTO, decent health insurance, or any of the flexibility you usually enjoy as an FTE. Added benefit, they'll work harder because they have to make a good case for getting their contracts extended every 10 months, hurray!
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The last place I worked had a load of suppliers who used "JIT" (Just In Time) manufacturing and supply. but just in time is never on time when you need it, now, today, like pay a guy to send an oil pipe fitting to be there in two hours. It was never on time, they went so JIT that they would hold virtually no stock (saves warehouse space) and if you need something today, they would be all "the next run of part 32 will be in two days, we can ship it to you next day" Not loving good enough, there is oil pissing everywhere, you have loving ruined it - can you even keep 10 in stock? No, they were a lean company. It's like "how quickly can you get a pacemaker to us, this guy is 2 hours drive away and need one NOW, and they'd say "none in stock, but we have placed an order". Maybe the Japanese have it figured out, but in the UK we don't. We got 300 18" pipe flanges because they wanted to clear their warehouse for "stocktaking" (they had no stock of anything), which we had no use for. Toyota had it all sorted, but now that does not work any more - machines break (and you don't keep any big spares, because they won't be needed) - until something breaks, badly, and you need another one - "Just in Time" is not in time...
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Squashing Machine posted:My company stays lean by hiring contractors and then scheduling them as full-time employees by proxy, just without PTO, decent health insurance, or any of the flexibility you usually enjoy as an FTE. Added benefit, they'll work harder because they have to make a good case for getting their contracts extended every 10 months, hurray! Convergys call center strategy is maintaining a hostile work environment so that the temp-to-hires quit before their six month trial period is up, and to use any threadbare excuse to fire the rest within a certain cut that don't quit, for any bullshit reason, because it costs less to pay the state fines on uncontested unemployment claims than to actually maintain employees with entitlements. Never work anywhere where everyone except exempt/salaried staff are mandatory required to participate in quarterly shift bids.
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No inventory improves free cash flow at the cost of actually doing work you bucket headed MBA retard. Not you Ohyesitsme. I like you.
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My dying company held a get together last year where all of the regular employees got burgers and the top performers got steak. It was really embarrassing and was terrible for morale. So they solved this problem by not having any more company events.
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Oscar Wild posted:No inventory improves free cash flow at the cost of actually doing work you bucket headed MBA retard. Not you Ohyesitsme. I like you. Business is stupid
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Lean sIx siGMA
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Ohyesitsme posted:The last place I worked had a load of suppliers who used "JIT" (Just In Time) manufacturing and supply. but just in time is never on time when you need it, now, today, like pay a guy to send an oil pipe fitting to be there in two hours. It was never on time, they went so JIT that they would hold virtually no stock (saves warehouse space) and if you need something today, they would be all "the next run of part 32 will be in two days, we can ship it to you next day" There’s a great story about a supplier from Austin Rover that was forced to go to JIT right when Honda was taking an interest in them and how this was gonna revolutionize the whole UK manufacturing industry. Said supplier spent a ton of money making their work lines more flexible, and got rid of all their inventory storage space to cut costs and finance the conversion. Nobody thought to bring up the reason they need to stockpile a shitload of parts is because every line at Austin Rover has random stoppages and it was more efficient to just keep making the parts at a steady rate and stockpile them for when the lines were actually up and running instead of having some JIT system where the whole line went idle because Austin Rover did and then they didn’t have the capacity to match them when they weren’t.
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I used to work for a company like that. The budgets for everything were cut more and more every year. No actual raises for like 10 years. I'd often MacGyver up some computer solutions for my dept. because we couldn't afford new equipment and software. I didn't realize how bad it really was until I quit. Our stapler and hole punch got a lot of use and wore out frequently. Every time we needed a new one there was a lot of rigmarole trying to get money to replace it. A. loving. Stapler. At my new job, we have paid lunch meetings every couple months, software systems that actually work, office supplies when we need them, and occasional free time off on Fridays. All of this was unheard of at my previous workplace. We also have a competent computer guy, so I don't really have do much computer maintenance or web design, which I used to do all the time at my old job (even though it wasn't my actual job to do it). So now I'm making more money for what amounts to less work.
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1500quidpoocati posted:There’s a great story about a supplier from Austin Rover that was forced to go to JIT right when Honda was taking an interest in them and how this was gonna revolutionize the whole UK manufacturing industry. Said supplier spent a ton of money making their work lines more flexible, and got rid of all their inventory storage space to cut costs and finance the conversion. Fuckheaded corporate officers absolutely love two things: buzzwords and acronyms. 'JIT', folded into arbitrary, if massive projections of cost cutting, must have given quite a few of them erections more enduring and painful than a viagra overdose.
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1500quidpoocati posted:There’s a great story about a supplier from Austin Rover that was forced to go to JIT right when Honda was taking an interest in them and how this was gonna revolutionize the whole UK manufacturing industry. Said supplier spent a ton of money making their work lines more flexible, and got rid of all their inventory storage space to cut costs and finance the conversion. And then once the layoffs happened, the production line workers enjoyed putting a handful of bolts inside the doors, behind the dash, anywhere, so that the customer got a nice loud rattle in the car. A bit like the Triumph Stag - they didn't bother rinsing out the casting sand from the engine properly, so most of them now run on Rover/Buick V8s instead. Never liked the Stags anyway. There is another story about the Daimler V8s to come...
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pixaal posted:We used to throw a big Christmas party of everyone, now we throw a big Christmas party for just the office. Manufacturing, production, and shipping all the minimum wage labor jobs? They don't get invited but they get the same 2 hour lunch before we all get told to go home early. So they throw a pot luck in the front dock, well a few years ago the CEO decided that was a great idea because it has a bunch of room and isn't used this time of year. So now there's a fully catered dinner with the CEO giving a speech and eating loving lobster and steak because he has to have the best food there. The office is eating a wide spread buffet of pretty decent stuff, and the underpaid people are eating home made rice and beans all in the same room. See, you should have left out that you were in IT and you should have named the company and its CEO.
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the office gets bonuses and then the CEO gives gift cards out of a fish bowl to the pot luck, then pretends he got "too many gift cards" every loving year and gives them to the office as well. We get it, you don't like poor people Mr. CEO. No reason to be a dick to them. (I'm in IT, and get invited to both parties so being in the same room is convenient for me).
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in general it is tragically funny how utterly inept and moronic most management seems to be but nonetheless there are legions of buttboys going to bat for the intelligent and smart master richers that deserve to be there by virtue of their abilities Worker coops that have the workers decide who will be the management above them work a lot more efficiently but lol c a p i t a l i s m i s b e s t
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hi my company is all about this lean six sigma crap so i just take a bunch of sick days and i hate my job. also they like to have layoffs a lot. A+
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torturemyballs posted:hi my company is all about this lean six sigma crap so i just take a bunch of sick days and i hate my job. also they like to have layoffs a lot. A+ Bank/mortgage?
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Over There posted:Bank/mortgage? naw, chemical manufacturer
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Oscar Wild posted:Not you Ohyesitsme. I like you. Reacharound? Y/N?
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