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Lord Hypnostache
Nov 6, 2009

OATHBREAKER
I too am appalled you took the Raven worshiper off the ring, but am also intrigued by your thought process on forming the ring. I usually try to have people who are great at several skills to serve multiple purposes, so I have room for useless goobers to make sure I have all families represented and/or interesting deities presented. I don't know if that's the best way to do it, but it's worked for me just fine. I've never actually tried not having all seven clans represented and I'm curious to see what this leads to.

Also, voting for 4, it's planting season and we're bad at food, let's hope Dread Arengee doesn't screw us.

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The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
2.) Coordinate an attack with the Char-Orisae

Attacking by ourselves in our basically-just-popped-into-existence state seems suicidal, trying to drive them off seems like it'd just have a similar effect with a side-disk of pissed-off neighbours, and just hoping they gently caress off on their own is a risky prospect. Teamwork makes the dream work, and hey, they owe us a favour, so let's cash that in right off the bat.

Electric_Mud
May 31, 2011

>10 THRUST "ROBO_COX"
>20 GOTO 10
#2 - Teamwork makes the dream(time) work

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Since we only have 9 warriors I see no option but to 2) Coordinate with the Char-Orisae

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

2, mutual problems require mutual solutions.

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.
2

Elgra Back On The Ring drat It.

ManxomeBromide
Jan 29, 2009

old school

Infinitum posted:

Goddammit we're literally the loving Moon Moon Clan :cripes:

Looks like we already regret this.

Coordinate with the neighbors. Those trolls aren't a threat only to us.

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all
Don’t feed the trolls, ignore them until they get bored and go away.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

I'm more dismayed that you kept a 70year old leader who is gonna die next season and showed favoratism towards one family.

That'll probably hurt our magic and as the best magicians we wouldn't make a mistake like that.

Anyway. Trolls.
4. Leave well alone.

It's sea season and if they stray towards us we will get option 1. Anyway.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

What type of clan is our neighbour?
Wheel or horse?

JanPospisil
Jul 27, 2013

Ask me about Verethragna!

Negative Entropy posted:

What type of clan is our neighbour?
Wheel or horse?

If that's the Char-Orisae, then those are Wheels. (Wheel clans have hyphenated names.)

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


Negative Entropy posted:

I'm more dismayed that you kept a 70year old leader who is gonna die next season and showed favoratism towards one family.


Now now as duly elected leader of Clan Untitled Name Clan, I promise to show no favouritsm and to drain the swamp.

to retrieve the body next year when Parastak drowns in it


Negative Entropy posted:

What type of clan is our neighbour?
Wheel or horse?

I will check when I get home. I think horse, but I'm not really confident in that answer

White Coke
May 29, 2015
4 Because we can’t interrupt planting season.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
Ok so design talk: really appreciate that they kept the seasonal cycle from KoDP for six ages. It's a solid mechanic with an easy familiar way to pick up the game as a KoDP player.

The Flying Twybil
Oct 20, 2019

So what? You can't prove I posted that.

ManxomeBromide posted:

Coordinate with the neighbors. Those trolls aren't a threat only to us.

I second this: coordinate with the neighbors. It's risky, but we might makes some allies in the process. Horse or wheel, they could be useful.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

JanPospisil posted:

If that's the Char-Orisae, then those are Wheels. (Wheel clans have hyphenated names.)

Ah well no problems then.

The Flying Twybil posted:

I second this: coordinate with the neighbors. It's risky, but we might makes some allies in the process. Horse or wheel, they could be useful.

They already owe us a favor. Maybe we can make it two. And get whatever treasure that jar is in the picture.

Negative Entropy fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Oct 28, 2019

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


Going to start working on up now, was just experimenting until I found a portrait setup I liked.

Old and busted

New hotness

You can actually read the names on a mobile now!

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


The Char-Orisa owe us a favour.. and maybe that favour is us getting to use them as human shields!

Rarity posted:

Co-ordinate an attack and then hopefully the Char-Orisa take more damage than we do



We need to send someone to alert the Char-Orisae, I'm hesitant to send someone we might actually give a poo poo about later incase they get murdered.

...why are you putting me on a horse?

Take a guess pretty boy

...

....

.....

Father will hear of this

Now then, how many people to send to murder the trolls? I think a small contingent so we don't over extend



A little over half should do, which should hopefully ensure victory without too many casualties



...

wut

Soooooooo first lesson learned, 'escort' doesn't mean 'contingent to send into battle'

It's literally just to protect our envoy :argh:

Who's pretty now?

Quiet you.



Oh well! In for a penny, in for a pound!


[quote]- Magic
-1 Sword


I don't get it. Why didn't they like hearing about how great I a.. I mean, WE, are?

Alakorde, you are just.. the worst..

Definitely not a positive outcome, especially injuring 8 of our warriors, but we've learnt some important lessons about reading and how terrible Alakorde is.




Right, lets pop the hood for a moment so you can see what I'm seeing.



This is your standard overview screen when not in an event. Things are a little different from KoDP in that it's giving me useful information about what to focus my attention on the left.

This was also the very first screen I saw after exiting Sacred Time; and you can now see why I reorganised the Ring to get someone knowledgeable with Food onto it.

For the time being finishing housing, training new warriors, and ploughing the fields are the areas that the game is recommending we focus on.

My focus is going to be on establishing a strong initial foothold, ensuring the basics are taken care of, because we are going to get our poo poo pushed in if we don't have the ability to play strategically and aggressively later on.


Neutral parties are in Purple
Hostile are in Red


This is our initial view of the Valley we reside in.

Our hostile Neighbours are:
- Brighteyes
- Jade Colt
- Honey Mane

Our neutral Neighbours are:
- Char-Orisa
- Starshine
- Tor-Ashda

An area of concern is what is south of the Black Eel River, but we'll worry about that later.




I will be updating the OP+2nd Post, likely tomorrow, with information about the known clans and their relations with us.

That way you'll have a better frame of reference for tracking things.




Now let's make some headway!



First hurdle is food!

I loving love not starving to death! Also food!

I know you do Venalor, and that's why we're going to plough some goddamn fields!



Nyalda is, of course, the great Earth Mother.
Pela is the Barley Mother, goddess of the land.

Consecrating the ground in their name should, hopefully, ensure a good harvest later this year and enough food for the Clan.

Starvation is a very real concern in this universe.

Infinitum fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Oct 28, 2019

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


Did somebody say food?

...Did somebody say gently caress off we just started planting? I mean.. HELLO FRIEND! Welcome to the Untitled Clan Clan! What can we do for you?



If we wait for them to come to us, our people will take pride. (3)

Better to be feared than loved.
Tell us how you really feel mate

When our people first split from one clan into many, we said, "We will always be one people." (1,2)

Feasts are cheaper than gifts. A gift worth less than ten cows is not worth giving. (2,4)
You are technically correct, the best kind of correct!

It is they who should petition us for friendship, not the other way around (3)

Our lives will be easier if more clans like us. Either a feast or a gift will win their favour. (1,2,4)

We can't afford to be giving away cows right now. And by cows, I mean anything. (3)


Fairly even split by the council on their recommendations. What say you Untitled Clan Clan? Do we welcome our brethren with open arms, or do we play it cool like a teenage boy at a highschool dance and wait for the girls to come to us?

quote:

1.) Give them cows.
2.) Throw a feast in their honour.
3.) Wait until they come to us.
4.) Give them goods.


quote:

:eng101: The Red Feather Clan

Infinitum fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Oct 28, 2019

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

Feasting is fun!

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


Please let me know if the new talking heads are legible, and if you have any issues with them.

They look a lot better to me on mobile than they did before.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Wow Alakorde, you are right at the back of the loving line for the worship orgies.

We need food for ourselves right now but we can spare some goods to help build bonds of friendship

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006
4) Goods, we can't miss a chance to make friends.

What's the hate/fear/mock stuff?

PerniciousKnid fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Oct 28, 2019

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
4 and gift them 7 goods. Enough for a good sacrifice

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

PerniciousKnid posted:

What's the hate/fear/mock stuff?
It's what other clans think of you, in basic terms. Like and Hate should be fairly self-evident, while Fear and Mock is whether or not they respect your might.

The Flying Twybil
Oct 20, 2019

So what? You can't prove I posted that.

Infinitum posted:

Please let me know if the new talking heads are legible, and if you have any issues with them.

They look a lot better to me on mobile than they did before.

They look fine by me!



I'm gonna vote for goods. We need to keep ourselves safe in regards to food as our planting didn't go that well, but we need some allies that will be more receptive the next time trolls or something roll around.

I'm assuming Venalor simply doesn't like the Red Feathers for whatever reason?

AnAnonymousIdiot
Sep 14, 2013

Trust me when I say, Let our neighbors come to us. 20 goods is probably what you'd expect in something like this, and that seems silly right now.

Black Robe
Sep 12, 2017

Generic Magic User


Infinitum posted:

Our hostile Neighbours are:
- Brighteyes
- Jade Colt
- Honey Mane

Oh no, the brony RPers don't like us. :geno:

I love that there's a mockery meter. I'm expecting the glorious Moon Moon clan to discover just how high that goes.

Voting goods, we need friends but we also really need all our cows and food right now.

Dakona
May 3, 2014
Voting for 4 and as for an amount the minimum required to make a good faith effort (According to that one councilor that was 10 cows worth).

No point in turning down an opportunity to help diplomacy at our start. We'll have ample raiding options later.

Negative Entropy
Nov 30, 2009

1. give them 10 cows as a gesture of friendship.
cows are the gold standard and it shows we are generous to friends. The Red Feathers are probably our best chance at a new alliance.

Are we allied with anyone already? The map doesnt seem to show a blue friend clan.
Who do we owe favors to, who owes us?

Nyaa
Jan 7, 2010
Like, Nyaa.

:colbert:
Feast

The new taking head is legible.

Also, won’t it be counterproductive to not have 7 familes in the ring in favor of one person having better stat? We are missing out on a full family boost bonus?

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


Negative Entropy posted:

Are we allied with anyone already? The map doesnt seem to show a blue friend clan.
Who do we owe favors to, who owes us?

Good questions.
- We are NOT Allied with anyone just yet.
- I will update the favours odd, etc tomorrow when I get home from work.

For the mean time though, this is what the game has to say about the Red Feathers


I have added this info to the post.

I am going to bed, so :justpost: and by post I mean vote and make comedic musings

RedSnapper
Nov 22, 2016
Feasting seems like the cheapest option

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


PerniciousKnid posted:

What's the hate/fear/mock stuff?

Further to this, and I'll add it in later when I'm not going zzz, these are how other clans see us
- Four Drum Clan mocks us, and we are going to make soooooo many Fore Skin jokes about them later.
- Honey Mane Clan hates us. They are our immediate neighbours to the East. If we are in a good position during Raiding/Fire Season we may go say 'Hello'.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

PerniciousKnid posted:

What's the hate/fear/mock stuff?

So Hate and Like are one axis: Hate is where the other clan well hates us. They think we suck, they are mad at us and if we give them cause to hate us more (raiding their poo poo, having events where we dick them over etc) they will move to feuding which is as you know from KoDP the rough equiv of war. Like is the polar opposite if people like us they're more likely to listen to what we have to say, consider providing assistance when asked out of friendship and generally do nice poo poo like prevent people from crossing their territory to raid us.

Fear and Mock are the other axis, they represent how well respected our power is. If we are Feared by a clan it means they think we are powerful and will reflect this in their decisions. If they Mock us they think we are weak.


So if a clan were to Fear and Hate us as the same time they'd be more likely to try to gang up to beat our faces in. If they were to Fear and Like us at the same time, they maybe more willing to be friends but maybe not do things they see as further increasing our independent power base.

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



Huh we lost magic for that attack? Weird.

RedSnapper
Nov 22, 2016

Infinitum posted:

Further to this, and I'll add it in later when I'm not going zzz, these are how other clans see us
- Four Drum Clan mocks us, and we are going to make soooooo many Fore Skin jokes about them later.
- Honey Mane Clan hates us. They are our immediate neighbours to the East. If we are in a good position during Raiding/Fire Season we may go say 'Hello'.

How about we raid the Four Drums to make four drums with their fore skins? Take that mock counter down to zero and hopefully pump up the fear score?

PerniciousKnid
Sep 13, 2006

Infinitum posted:

Further to this, and I'll add it in later when I'm not going zzz, these are how other clans see us
- Four Drum Clan mocks us, and we are going to make soooooo many Fore Skin jokes about them later.
- Honey Mane Clan hates us. They are our immediate neighbours to the East. If we are in a good position during Raiding/Fire Season we may go say 'Hello'.

So I take it that the number is how many clans blank us.

Nobody likes us. :(

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.
FEAST. FEAST. FEAST.

ChaseSP posted:

Huh we lost magic for that attack? Weird.

We used it to repel the trolls.

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RedSnapper
Nov 22, 2016

PerniciousKnid posted:

So I take it that the number is how many clans blank us.

Nobody likes us. :(

Such is life. We're just got here so the only relations we have are "LOL newbs" and "Their grandfather calld our grandfather a dick in the previous migration".

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