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So if he wins and successfully legally ruled as child pornography, does that mean that it becomes possession of child pornography to own that album? I feel like a lot of prosecutors would love to make that argument.
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I also still have a baby dick 30 years after being a baby. Who do I sue?
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LanceHunter posted:Nate Mendel was the AIDS denier in the Foo Fighters, and yeah he was a complete idiot. That article is really going overboard to try and put the blame on Grohl. Mr. Blastaway posted:Get over it, this happened 20 years ago
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Aug 25, 2021 21:04
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Mac and Cheese posted:weird al always asks permission to parody an artists work get this guy a law license imho
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Aug 25, 2021 21:12
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This trial is a plot by big pedophile. They are trying to get the courts to establish once and for all that it's not illegal to take and share photos of children's genitals. David Geffen set this all in motion 30 years ago when he signed Nirvana to his record label.
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Aug 25, 2021 21:13
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🎵Sit and bank penis royaltiiies 🎵
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Has anyone reached out to kurt cobain yet for his thoughts on the matter? about time someone took him to task
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Steadiman posted:Has anyone reached out to kurt cobain yet for his thoughts on the matter? about time someone took him to task They've probably washed the ceiling by now.
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Aug 25, 2021 22:10
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Edit: I somehow missed that he's suing Cobain's estate too
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Steadiman posted:Has anyone reached out to kurt cobain yet for his thoughts on the matter? about time someone took him to task p sure curt's thought matter took a tremendous tasking a while back
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Aug 25, 2021 22:19
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:Tbh I dont find it outrageous to not want your baby nudes on public display anymore If that was the goal of the lawsuit rather than fat bags of stupid money (and the side effect of making millions of people guilty of possession of child pornography) I don't think this would be such a crazy thing
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Aug 25, 2021 22:20
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i too wish someone would pay me for showing my penis to the people at the record store
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Aug 25, 2021 22:22
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i hope they have to change the cover and its just a picture of the band lol
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Wizard Master posted:🎵Sit and bank penis royaltiiies 🎵 Under-appreciated post
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Aug 25, 2021 22:39
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Surely the kid's legal guardians would be involved? It's not like Nirvana just grabbed a random baby and threw it in a pool. Is it?
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Aug 25, 2021 22:40
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Wizard Master posted:🎵Sit and bank penis royaltiiies 🎵
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Aug 25, 2021 22:43
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dude's been on the cover of nevermind and cevin key's the dragon experience. he's just getting greedy
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:Tbh I dont find it outrageous to not want your baby nudes on public display anymore That’s not what he’s suing over though. If you read the interviews he literally says that he uses the notoriety to his advantage. “I use it to hook up with hot chicks but then they dump me when they find out I don’t have any money!” He comes across like an rear end in a top hat in every interview. Now that being said, I do think he deserves monetary compensation beyond the $200 bucks his parents got but don’t make the mistake that he’s suing over potential CP; he’s suing over money and using CP as a cover.
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Aug 26, 2021 02:45
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Oh no how dare a guy whose baby dick is plastered all over the world not be some kind of a paragon of virtue?! Case dismissed
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Aug 26, 2021 02:49
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He couldn't make money by showing up to conventions and taking photos with people naked like all those washed up actors do? I mean the actors are fully clothed but I think doing it nude would be his only novelty factor.
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Colonel Cancer posted:Oh no how dare a guy whose baby dick is plastered all over the world not be some kind of a paragon of virtue?! Case dismissed Nah actually him suing with CP as the reason while he is actually ok with the picture being out there because it’s his sole identity lessens actual victims of CP.
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Aug 26, 2021 03:04
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the baby dick guy was no angel
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DarkSoulsTantrum posted:Nah actually him suing with CP as the reason while he is actually ok with the picture being out there because it’s his sole identity lessens actual victims of CP. This seems like a lovely take, many victims of sexual exploitation think they're fine only to have it gently caress them up later in life.
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Aug 26, 2021 03:10
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Pekinduck posted:They've probably washed the ceiling by now. 
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Aug 26, 2021 03:11
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It seems like his lawyer was just naming anyone who even looked at Nirvana in the 90s because Chad Channing is named in the lawsuit and he wasn't even in the band when they made Nevermind. A lot of people are giving this the side eye and it's not hard to understand that. If he is in fact co-opting the trauma of people who were exploited as kids he's a huge scumbag though. That said, I'm not ready to dismiss his claims and you can't really prove he doesn't feel exploited. In any case that album sold literally tens of millions of copies and remains hugely popular and the cover is on numerous t-shirts, posters, and other merchandise. For decades. Just give him some loving money.
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DarkSoulsTantrum posted:Nah actually him suing with CP as the reason while he is actually ok with the picture being out there because it’s his sole identity lessens actual victims of CP. I don't think it should be up to the victim whether the offending material is openly distributed or not, I don't particularly give a gently caress whether he's "ok" with it or not. His parents were at best misguided and at worst criminals of the worst order when they agreed to this hth
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SilvergunSuperman posted:This seems like a lovely take, many victims of sexual exploitation think they're fine only to have it gently caress them up later in life. I’m not saying he’s not hosed up, he clearly is. I said earlier in the thread he should get a million dollars or whatever. gently caress record companies, sue David Geffen into the ground, I don’t care. But he’s used the very image he supposedly hates to promote himself, get laid, etc. He’s recreated the image as an adult three times already. He doesn’t want the image removed, he wants recompense, which is fine, I just don’t agree with how he’s going about it. For the record, his parents were lovely for dumping their naked kid in a pool for a photo for 200 bucks.
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I mean, they didn't just grab a random baby, right? So this dude should take it up with legal authorities that gave consent and permission. Probably his parents. Cause his parents would've been like "he's four and we're his parents and it's all good." Parents probably don't have nevermind cash tho.
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Aug 26, 2021 03:23
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Wanting more money because things blew up is all fine and good but the courts won't give a gently caress It could basically obliterate any <18 people as actors or commercial models which is a different nonsense result
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syntaxfunction posted:I mean, they didn't just grab a random baby, right? So this dude should take it up with legal authorities that gave consent and permission. Probably his parents. Cause his parents would've been like "he's four and we're his parents and it's all good." The picture was taken by his dad's friend. The guy called the dad and said he was taking pictures of babies that day and offered 200 bucks to throw his kid in the pool so they could take pictures. According to Elden his parents didn't give permission to use the picture for an album cover and weren't asked for permission. A lawyer might be able to make that an insignificant matter though because a lot of times when you're the subject of a photograph the photographer has sole ownership over the way its used and the picture itself. Whether or not that was agreed upon by the parents and the photographer I don't know and if there was nothing in writing, which is likely in this case, it gets murkier from there.
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CPL593H posted:The picture was taken by his dad's friend. The guy called the dad and said he was taking pictures of babies that day and offered 200 bucks to throw his kid in the pool so they could take pictures. According to Elden his parents didn't give permission to use the picture for an album cover and weren't asked for permission. A lawyer might be able to make that an insignificant matter though because a lot of times when you're the subject of a photograph the photographer has sole ownership over the way its used and the picture itself. Whether or not that was agreed upon by the parents and the photographer I don't know and if there was nothing in writing, which is likely in this case, it gets murkier from there. Yeah, any sensible photographer will get all their model releases signed and filed away in a very safe place in case anything like this comes up in the future. (The exception being that guy who took the photo for Vampire Weekend's Contra, who seems to have been a bit of an idiot.)
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If they were to paste a large, flaccid, adult penis over the existing one for future covers would it still count as CP?
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DarkSoulsTantrum posted:I’m not saying he’s not hosed up, he clearly is. I said earlier in the thread he should get a million dollars or whatever. gently caress record companies, sue David Geffen into the ground, I don’t care. But he’s used the very image he supposedly hates to promote himself, get laid, etc. He’s recreated the image as an adult three times already. He doesn’t want the image removed, he wants recompense, which is fine, I just don’t agree with how he’s going about it. For the record, his parents were lovely for dumping their naked kid in a pool for a photo for 200 bucks. if you're gonna make child pornography at least give the kid a cut, it's only fair
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Suing for royalties, accusing them of child porn, straight up asking for money This guy's really using the shotgun approach, which has proven effective against Nirvana in the past
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ben shapino posted:if you're gonna make child pornography at least give the kid a cut, it's only fair Typically the object of a lawsuit is to get money as compensation for some sort of wrong done to a person, so yeah that's kind of the point. At this point it's literally impossible to take that image out of circulation. Devils Affricate posted:Suing for royalties, accusing them of child porn, straight up asking for money 
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Devils Affricate posted:This guy's really using the shotgun approach, which has proven effective against Nirvana in the past 
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Devils Affricate posted:Suing for royalties, accusing them of child porn, straight up asking for money 
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zooted heh posted:i hope they have to change the cover and its just a picture of the band lol Gonna be like that cut up babies album from The Beatles. They changed it to the band surrounding a boring trunk with Paul inside
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Aug 26, 2021 05:16
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quote:Elden recreated the image as an adult in 2016, and has "Nevermind" tattooed on his chest. I feel like he should tell the court “Nevermind” and move on with his life.
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How would you feel if you never saw a penny from the royalties?
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