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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/curing-disease-not-a-sustainable-business-model-goldman-sachs-analysts-say/

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BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
Came here to post the same thing. IMO it's just the system working as intended

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich

lmfao at least they're not hiding it anymore

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Norm Macdonald when he's laughing at 9/11 but instead of 9/11 it's Tesla.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX1SojKfgNI

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost
I’m the retard who wanted the government to be run like a business even though literally every business is trying to screw us over in every possible respect.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi7t_g5QObs

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


pap smear posted:

You're loving stupid if you think classes don't have a real presence in biology. You are not on the level of Otto von Bismarck, Bill Gates or Grace Hopper. You are a plebian, a biological mundanity. You will not be able to take advantage of the resources that a proper elite would, and it would be a philosophical crime to pretend you and the billions like you deserve the same resources.

Also I imagine myself in a lab to be cannibalized in research as a neurological abnormality.


Except in the current system, we are capable of occasionally allocating proper resources to proper elites, rather than dragging them through the mud with the common swine.

The real solution is to find out how to achieve 100% accuracy instead of pretending like Marx's reversion to tribalism is a good idea.

hehe

T.S. Smelliot
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
If only I could be on the level of Otto von Bismarck :sigh:

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

disposable phone chargers that have been intentionally crippled to prevent recharging when they were originally designed to be rechargeable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5korWqCcsHE

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/991412232251695104
https://fair.org/home/medias-grim-addiction-to-perseverance-porn/

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

https://twitter.com/ByRosenberg/status/991750255136849920

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich

a top DNC donor, ladies and gents

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

viral spiral posted:

a top DNC donor, ladies and gents

Oh no id better vote for a party that doesnt get its support from exploitative billionaires

*tumbleweed goes by*

central dogma
Feb 25, 2012

Come to the Undead Settlement in the next 20 mins if u want an ash kicking

viral spiral posted:

lmfao at least they're not hiding it anymore

It was a headline designed to scare people. This hepc cure made tens of billions of dollars in revenue. You think big pharma is going to stop developing cures when it's in their power? You think genetic engineers are going to start vanishing, picked off one by one by Pfizer? :tinfoil:

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

central dogma posted:

It was a headline designed to scare people. This hepc cure made tens of billions of dollars in revenue. You think big pharma is going to stop developing cures when it's in their power? You think genetic engineers are going to start vanishing, picked off one by one by Pfizer? :tinfoil:

There are almost no companies researching new antibiotics even though current ones are over prescribed and failing, because there isn't enough profit in it.

There are worldwide shortage in the extremely important FAV-Afrique antivenom because the company that made it decided it wasn't making enough money.

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich
https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/995095196760092672

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

guillotine

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

A more powerful comparison would be the social projects (alleviating poverty, climate change research, education, healthcare, infrastructure, etc.) that could be funded instead of the dimensions of physical currency. That money could be used to maybe not force amazon workers to wear diapers. All that poo poo apparently slipped bezos' loving mind though and he can only think of rocket ships.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiDga-2aTmI

binaryjunky
Jun 29, 2004
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It is the purview of local government to tax businesses, just as it is the right of businesses to pack up and leave if they do not agree with new taxation.

Amazon's success was not based on seattle city council's efforts, Amazon owes them nothing. I mean say what you will about Jeff Bezo's the fact is he took a lovely website that sold books from the 90's and now is dominating everything.

What's the Seattle City Council done?

Does anyone even KNOW any of them outside of Seattle? No.

Then why would you think they would know better? Amazon has brought a CRAPLOAD of money to the area, they did this despite seattle's city council leeching off of Microsoft, Boeing, and Amazon. Not to mention that everytime the Seattle City Council has tried to do anything about the homeless situation has made it WORSE.

We're DRAWING UP the homeless...homeless people........are actually making their WAY here!

binaryjunky fucked around with this message at 17:17 on May 12, 2018

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

binaryjunky posted:

Amazon's success was not based on seattle city council, Amazon owes them nothing.

first of all that's bullshit because they've gotten plenty of deals and tax breaks from the city


second of all get hosed you bootlick piece of poo poo. Ethics and morals matter and threatening to pull thousands of jobs over a relatively minuscule tax to help homeless people is hosed up.

binaryjunky
Jun 29, 2004
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Moridin920 posted:

first of all that's bullshit because they've gotten plenty of deals and tax breaks from the city


second of all get hosed you bootlick piece of poo poo. Ethics and morals matter and threatening to pull thousands of jobs over a relatively minuscule tax to help homeless people is hosed up.

Well, that's the way it is, has been, and will be.

This has been going on for DECADES, and it's only gotten worse.

Their entire approach is ineffective and its only grown the hom.......do you even LIVE near seattle?

binaryjunky fucked around with this message at 17:20 on May 12, 2018

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

binaryjunky posted:

Well, that's the way it is, has been, and will be.

binaryjunky
Jun 29, 2004
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lol you're broke.

You have no power.

You go out there kid, you are the ONE that knows how to make communism work!

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Is there aught we hold in common with the greedy parasite,
Who would lash us into serfdom and would crush us with his might?
Is there anything left to us but to organize and fight?
For the union makes us strong.

It is we who plowed the prairies; built the cities where they trade;
Dug the mines and built the workshops, endless miles of railroad laid;
Now we stand outcast and starving midst the wonders we have made;
But the union makes us strong.

All the world that's owned by idle drones is ours and ours alone.
We have laid the wide foundations; built it skyward stone by stone.
It is ours, not to slave in, but to master and to own.
While the union makes us strong.

They have taken untold millions that they never toiled to earn,
But without our brain and muscle not a single wheel can turn.
We can break their haughty power, gain our freedom when we learn
That the union makes us strong.

In our hands is placed a power greater than their hoarded gold,
Greater than the might of armies, multiplied a thousand-fold.
We can bring to birth a new world from the ashes of the old
For the union makes us strong.

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

binaryjunky posted:

lol you're broke.

You have no power.

You go out there kid, you are the ONE that knows how to make communism work!

At least I'm not bootlicking for billionaires.

Would rather die on my feet that live like that.

binaryjunky
Jun 29, 2004
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COMRADES posted:

Is there aught we hold in common with the greedy parasite,
Who would lash us into serfdom and would crush us with his might?
Is there anything left to us but to organize and fight?
For the union makes us strong.

It is we who plowed the prairies; built the cities where they trade;
Dug the mines and built the workshops, endless miles of railroad laid;
Now we stand outcast and starving midst the wonders we have made;
But the union makes us strong.

All the world that's owned by idle drones is ours and ours alone.
We have laid the wide foundations; built it skyward stone by stone.
It is ours, not to slave in, but to master and to own.
While the union makes us strong.

They have taken untold millions that they never toiled to earn,
But without our brain and muscle not a single wheel can turn.
We can break their haughty power, gain our freedom when we learn
That the union makes us strong.

In our hands is placed a power greater than their hoarded gold,
Greater than the might of armies, multiplied a thousand-fold.
We can bring to birth a new world from the ashes of the old
For the union makes us strong.

Actually,

I take that back, you DO have some power. The power people have to organize on social media and target companies for boycotts that might change practices.

You have that power. Because of Capitalism...

Also, take a gander over at the history of unions in this country, it's not that they're inherently bad, they just are breeding grounds for corruption. I mean, hello the mafia controlled drat near every union in this country at one time, not because unions are bad, it's just a very easy system to gain control over and SERIOUSLY jeopardize industries.

binaryjunky fucked around with this message at 17:30 on May 12, 2018

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

binaryjunky posted:

It is the purview of local government to tax businesses, just as it is the right of businesses to pack up and leave if they do not agree with new taxation.
your bootlicking subordination to corporate power is why america is so hosed up

binaryjunky
Jun 29, 2004
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comedyblissoption posted:

your bootlicking subordination to corporate power is why america is so hosed up

Saw that on a T-shirt once.

Seriously kid, this is the sammmmme poo poo we've been talking about for DECADES in this country. Every new generation discovers it and gets riled up in indignation when you grow to the point where you realize certain truths.

Are there better ways? I'm sure there are, I'm just also pretty sure you're not the one that could make this very complex system better, more than likely you'll make it worse.

I'm down to talk to you, you can call me a bootlicker all you want, I get it. You gotta protect your internet cred.

binaryjunky fucked around with this message at 17:36 on May 12, 2018

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

this is like one of those tv shows where they introduce the main character and it's a grizzled world-weary detective that drinks and smokes too much and catches his man in the end except in this case he actually destroys the evidence and lets the serial killer go even after he kills his wife and kid
"that's just the way of the world buster"

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


binaryjunky posted:

You have that power. Because of Capitalism...

No? Boycotting companies is one of the least effective way of changing things since no matter what company you choose to buy from you contribute directly to the exploitation of workers.

binaryjunky posted:

Also, take a gander over at the history of unions in this country, it's not that they're inherently bad, they just are breeding grounds for corruption. I mean, hello the mafia controlled drat near every union in this country at one time, not because unions are bad, it's just a very easy system to gain control over and SERIOUSLY jeopardize industries.


You can just as easily make this argument about democracy and whoops now you've started advocating for fascism.

I don't actually think you know how unions work beyond what your dad yelled about when you were a kid.

Sedisp fucked around with this message at 20:04 on May 12, 2018

Split Pea Superman
Dec 16, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
:hmbol: at the whole we built this world crap. The people that feel society got one over on them don't do nice things for it/others. They drag their feet, never doing more than as little as possible, all the while bitching about what they're entitled to. It's a theif's mindset.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Split Pea Superman posted:

:hmbol: at the whole we built this world crap. The people that feel society got one over on them don't do nice things for it/others. They drag their feet, never doing more than as little as possible, all the while bitching about what they're entitled to. It's a theif's mindset.

Turn on your monitor

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

binaryjunky posted:

Actually,

I take that back, you DO have some power. The power people have to organize on social media and target companies for boycotts that might change practices.

You have that power. Because of Capitalism...

Also, take a gander over at the history of unions in this country, it's not that they're inherently bad, they just are breeding grounds for corruption. I mean, hello the mafia controlled drat near every union in this country at one time, not because unions are bad, it's just a very easy system to gain control over and SERIOUSLY jeopardize industries.

Lmao

COMRADES
Apr 3, 2017

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Split Pea Superman posted:

:hmbol: at the whole we built this world crap. The people that feel society got one over on them don't do nice things for it/others. They drag their feet, never doing more than as little as possible, all the while bitching about what they're entitled to. It's a theif's mindset.

Lmao

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Split Pea Superman posted:

:hmbol: at the whole we built this world crap. The people that feel society got one over on them don't do nice things for it/others. They drag their feet, never doing more than as little as possible, all the while bitching about what they're entitled to. It's a theif's mindset.

the funniest part about this is you are care mad about Solidarity Forever a song written in 1915.

Split Pea Superman
Dec 16, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Sedisp posted:

the funniest part about this is you are care mad about Solidarity Forever a song written in 1915.

Is your point that idealizing a song from the early 20th century mostly dumb? If it is we're in agreement.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Split Pea Superman posted:

:hmbol: at the whole we built this world crap. The people that feel society got one over on them don't do nice things for it/others. They drag their feet, never doing more than as little as possible, all the while bitching about what they're entitled to. It's a theif's mindset.

i remember the last time a millionaire worked a day building a factory / working at the factory floor

no i dont, actually

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
split man reinforces his position as the dumbest piece of poo poo in this galactic quadrant, and makes it virtually impossible for anybody to compete

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Split Pea Superman
Dec 16, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

steinrokkan posted:

i remember the last time a millionaire worked a day building a factory / working at the factory floor

no i dont, actually

So you haven't heard of Jeff Bezos?

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