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Ronald McReagan posted:I'd say a good half of the unsexy grunt work required to make the organization function falls on the 20% of are steering committee who are women, despite the fact they are also pulling more than their weight on the more glamorous stuff too. Unbelievably Fat Man posted:This is something I've noticed to an extent too. I kinda assumed it was a deliberate strategy to keep the org from being overwhelmingly controlled by white dudes ahahahahahaha no, no, it probably isnt, and i'd like to ask you to take some time to consider why you made that assumption? all that "grunt" work is picked up by non-male/non-white members because all y'all don't notice and step up when there's work that needs doing.
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Venom Snake posted:I just don't know what RL Stephens wants! He's always just throwing tantrums and I'm here like ??? what do you want me to do. You could stop infantilizing him by referring to his posts as a tantrum, for starters. You could also take seriously his concerns about racism and sexism in the org, and his prescriptions for fixing them. They’re incomplete because they’re complex problems, maybe you could brainstorm something instead of shooting the messenger.
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:You could stop infantilizing him by referring to his posts as a tantrum, for starters. You could also take seriously his concerns about racism and sexism in the org, and his prescriptions for fixing them. They’re incomplete because they’re complex problems, maybe you could brainstorm something instead of shooting the messenger.
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Ace of Baes posted:isn't CPUSA like to the right of Bernie Sanders or some ridiculous poo poo like that? it's a marxist leninist org whose national leadership posts endorsements of democrats, embarrassing every rank and file member anyway i don't have internal figures for parties i'm not in but conversations with people suggest numbers are growing, though obviously not as much as dsa. dickwaving about membership rolls is insanely stupid regardless
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Rated PG-34 posted:what exactly can a non-electoral activism group do that a electoral party can’t do? the socialist party engages in all sorts of stuff outside regular electoral politics it's not a huge thing obviously, but just down to meeting spaces, here locally we can get a meeting room at the library as a non partisan political organization, but couldn't if we were a party also i don't want my money going towards running vanity campaigns which is all third parties can do
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R. Guyovich posted:it's a marxist leninist org whose national leadership posts endorsements of democrats, embarrassing every rank and file member its not dick waving to recognize how big the rest of the non-DSA "left" is, theres a reason theyre that small and fragmented
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R. Guyovich posted:it's a marxist leninist org whose national leadership posts endorsements of democrats, embarrassing every rank and file member it wasn't really dickwaving so much as me sorta laughing at the idea of disbanding DSA and merging its members into an organization 1/10 its size
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:ahahahahahaha no, no, it probably isnt, and i'd like to ask you to take some time to consider why you made that assumption? Hell yes, this.
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Syndlig posted:it wasn't really dickwaving so much as me sorta laughing at the idea of disbanding DSA and merging its members into an organization 1/10 its size 
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:local is having a brainstorming session this weekend on things to do in the local community find a ceo's house and torch it
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:local is having a brainstorming session this weekend on things to do in the local community guerrilla bus stop benches
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uncurable mlady posted:guerrilla bus stop benches the rich would never dare be seen near a bus stop
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seriously, though, build some benches and paint em red and get the creatives to maybe put some fuckin roses on there and go plant them at busy bus stops where benches were removed by your municipality, if not bus stops, other places in downtown areas or w/e. lots of cities removed benches to gently caress with homeless people, but they’re a net social good especially for the elderly or people that gotta walk everywhere if you’ve got the scratch, chain the benches to something (streetlamps?) so the city can’t easily remove them you’re gonna lose some benches (you’re gonna lose all the benches) but you can talk it up to any friendly media, make sure people are aware of it, show up to city council meetings or w/e.
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:all that "grunt" work is picked up by non-male/non-white members because all y'all don't notice and step up when there's work that needs doing. Yeah fortunately these women are not hesitant to guilt the rest of the steering committee into helping them, or it would probably be a lot worse. My wife and I just had a baby and my top priority is not replicating the same problem with domestic labor at home, so while I feel like I do step up a decent amount, I'm still struggling to find a balance. 
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lol humanity is so loving garbage
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uncurable mlady posted:seriously, though, build some benches and paint em red and get the creatives to maybe put some fuckin roses on there and go plant them at busy bus stops where benches were removed by your municipality, if not bus stops, other places in downtown areas or w/e. lots of cities removed benches to gently caress with homeless people, but they’re a net social good especially for the elderly or people that gotta walk everywhere
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big black turnout posted:it's not a huge thing obviously, but just down to meeting spaces, here locally we can get a meeting room at the library as a non partisan political organization, but couldn't if we were a party surrender to the democrats/Republicans. I’m getting more emails from the dsa to canvas for dems that I can trash
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As someone who joined the DSA because I hate women and their leader, Hillary Clinton, this is very troubling
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bump_fn posted:lol amerikkka is so loving garbage
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:local is having a brainstorming session this weekend on things to do in the local community In Pittsburgh next spring, we're going to be starting a project of local neighborhood gardens and pantries. Priority 1 is soil testing for metals, because Pittsburgh.
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bump_fn posted:lol humanity is so loving garbage I blame the protestants
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Goon Danton posted:In Pittsburgh next spring, we're going to be starting a project of local neighborhood gardens and pantries. Priority 1 is soil testing for metals, because Pittsburgh. That's why we nixed our community food gardens on vacant lots idea. 
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uncurable mlady posted:seriously, though, build some benches and paint em red and get the creatives to maybe put some fuckin roses on there and go plant them at busy bus stops where benches were removed by your municipality, if not bus stops, other places in downtown areas or w/e. lots of cities removed benches to gently caress with homeless people, but they’re a net social good especially for the elderly or people that gotta walk everywhere Goon Danton posted:In Pittsburgh next spring, we're going to be starting a project of local neighborhood gardens and pantries. Priority 1 is soil testing for metals, because Pittsburgh. hey can i steal these loving awesome ideas and bring them up at the next austin dsa special projects committee meeting?
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Syndlig posted:hey can i steal these loving awesome ideas and bring them up at the next austin dsa special projects committee meeting? Intellectual property is a liberal myth, friend, go nuts!  Lumpy posted:That's why we nixed our community food gardens on vacant lots idea. There are ways to address the problem, but it takes a full growing season or two.
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Phi230 posted:I blame the protestants 
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Goon Danton posted:In Pittsburgh next spring, we're going to be starting a project of local neighborhood gardens and pantries. Priority 1 is soil testing for metals, because Pittsburgh. Anyway one of the things I'm looking/co-leading is doing local park trail maintenance in Spring 2018, Summer 2018 is also the tentative period where we plan to have a meeting of a bunch of the Eastern OH and Western PA DSAs to exchange ideas and strategies while enjoying the things to do in Geneva-on-the-Lake, though I'm currently overthinking it and putting it off since its in the Summer 2018. Other local ideas? I think we are planning on doing a Thanksgiving Dinner event and something around the Holiday season. Another thing we have planned for 2018 is a Spaghetti Dinner where finally my years of Catholicism will pay off since I know all the tricks and trades in making that a good fundraising/community event.
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:ahahahahahaha no, no, it probably isnt, and i'd like to ask you to take some time to consider why you made that assumption? I've also heard it explained that doing socfem stuff for dudes is like, a nice thing that makes them feel good but for ladies it's sometimes actual life or death which is why they tend to actually do stuff and the fellas just form reading groups.
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achillesforever6 posted:Aren't the community garden working group also looking into learning how to can stuff too? Yeah, that's the plan for their (our?) first event, since the garden has to wait until gardening season.
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Lumpy posted:That's why we nixed our community food gardens on vacant lots idea. what about using raised garden beds so you're not growing in the contaminated soil below?
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