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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Why wouldn't the Death Star wipe out a Borg Cube? It's literally just one big slow target.

And Australian cops desperately want to be American cops and probably have the total lack of accountability down pat.

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Fishstick
Jul 9, 2005

Does not require preheating

The "Artist" tag doing a lot of work here, both art and content-wise

Fishstick has a new favorite as of 10:23 on Nov 6, 2019

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Why wouldn't the Death Star wipe out a Borg Cube? It's literally just one big slow target.

a Borg Cube should not pose a problem. It's the ones after that will but that's not the question.

Also, not really relevant so that's all I'll say about that.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Also lol since the French cop has no fans except non-racist bootlickers

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

TinTower posted:

TERFs out there sounding like Multiple Miggs once again.



So thats why all the lesbians I know sniff each others' crotches like dogs sniffing buttholes.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
Pretty sure the French Republic was the first modern nation by a wide margin to declare everyone (with a dick) born in its territory, regardless of race, ethnicity, or religion, to be “a Frenchman” guaranteed all rights and duties of citizenship. That credo of universal frenchness is still pretty integral to french nationalism even when it’s applied in bigoted ways (why won’t they assimilate when we told them they can be french??) It’s more like american nationalism than to “you must be from here night unto twenty generations.”

France is like the dumbest euro country to apply an ethnic standard to. There were more tolerant countries but they were tolerant in the sense of “we will not ethnically cleanse or forcibly convert you weird foreigners” whereas France pioneered the idea of a nationality transcending race entirely.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Pretty sure the French Republic was the first modern nation by a wide margin to declare everyone (with a dick) born in its territory, regardless of race, ethnicity, or religion, to be “a Frenchman” guaranteed all rights and duties of citizenship. That credo of universal frenchness is still pretty integral to french nationalism even when it’s applied in bigoted ways (why won’t they assimilate when we told them they can be french??) It’s more like american nationalism than to “you must be from here night unto twenty generations.”

France is like the dumbest euro country to apply an ethnic standard to. There were more tolerant countries but they were tolerant in the sense of “we will not ethnically cleanse or forcibly convert you weird foreigners” whereas France pioneered the idea of a nationality transcending race entirely.

In case you haven't noticed, racists don't give a poo poo about anything like that.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Pretty sure the French Republic was the first modern nation by a wide margin to declare everyone (with a dick) born in its territory, regardless of race, ethnicity, or religion, to be “a Frenchman” guaranteed all rights and duties of citizenship. That credo of universal frenchness is still pretty integral to french nationalism even when it’s applied in bigoted ways (why won’t they assimilate when we told them they can be french??) It’s more like american nationalism than to “you must be from here night unto twenty generations.”

I love how America, one of the countries that has the least excuse historically and constitutionally to be an ethnostate, is the one that all the nazis have decided they can rules-lawyer into being a white man's paradise

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
Given America's history on race, it's got plenty of precedent to have white people on top.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?
How the gently caress does the country of manifest destiny not have a historical reason to become an ethno state?

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

https://twitter.com/NuclearTakes/status/1191808467515904001?s=20

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Fathis Munk posted:

How the gently caress does the country of manifest destiny not have a historical reason to become an ethno state?

I mean like ... kinda the whole point was that this is a country where people from all over the world immigrate in order to take part in a synthetic state not tied to any particular nationality and instead dedicated to principles of democracy and humanity

As opposed to, like, "this country is called France because it is the nation of the Frankish tribe which speaks X language and lives in Y region"

I get that we have not fulfilled that ideal very well, I am awarded no points I understand, but I'm talking about like trying to kick out people of Hispanic descent who were in the Southwest for 100 years before America cast eyes on it, or you know, native populations, is at odds with the idea of America "belonging" to white people

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Who What Now posted:

So thats why all the lesbians I know sniff each others' crotches like dogs sniffing buttholes.

There is a woman at my wife's work whose opening line is "what does your pussy smell like?" Shes crushing rear end too so it is an approach some lesbians employ.

Shes hits on the trans girls too though so she isn't this crazy person.

Shbobdb has a new favorite as of 15:12 on Nov 6, 2019

Queen-Of-Hearts
Mar 17, 2009

"I want to break your heart💔 and give you mine🫀"




Shbobdb posted:

Shes hits on the tgirls too though si she isn't this crazy person.

Please don't refer to us by porn terms.

zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

:kimchi: Tater Love :kimchi:

Inceltown posted:

"Hitler was good for PoC because he killed a lot of whites" is stronger than this.

I'm going to need some details/citations on this one because wow

jjack229
Feb 14, 2008
Articulate your needs. I'm here to listen.

Data Graham posted:

I mean like ... kinda the whole point was that this is a country where people from all over the world immigrate in order to take part in a synthetic state not tied to any particular nationality and instead dedicated to principles of democracy and humanity


Not sure if you mean at it's begining or now. I don't know if people claimed this was the goal at beginning (or if it something we apply retroactively), but a country founded on genocide and slavery where only rich, white men could vote is not "dedicated to principles of democracy and humanity".

I agree that Americans like to talk about the US as though it were the defender of freedom around the world and that that would be at odds against white supremecy, but the actions of the US have always been at odds with that selfperception.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Six-Of-Hearts posted:

Please don't refer to us by porn terms.

My apologies. That is the term the lesbian being discussed used.

Nastyman
Jul 11, 2007

There they sit
at the foot of the mountain
Taking hits
of the sacred smoke
Fire rips at their lungs
Holy mountain take us away

Dammerung posted:

I've noticed that the obsession with Russia as an explanation for all political and social phenomena is hitting critical levels, in that I can absolutely believe this is a serious and legitimate article.

"This is actually good for Russia" is the new "This will make the terrorists win". The right is so far removed from ever having real, tangible ideals that they think associating OPPOSITION_ACTIVITY with BAD_THING_WE_DID will make those desperately woke kids drop the issue.

Nastyman has a new favorite as of 15:14 on Nov 6, 2019

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

Data Graham posted:

I mean like ... kinda the whole point was that this is a country where people from all over the world immigrate in order to take part in a synthetic state not tied to any particular nationality and instead dedicated to principles of democracy and humanity

I dunno, maybe I got this wrong image in my mind, but to me it was always about *white* people from all over the world, it's not like Chinese immigrants were ever well received for example. To my understanding, an ethno state isn't focused on nationality, but rather race and skin color.

Wasn't the whole point of manifest destiny justifying that God made America for white men and that they should expand and seize it from indigenous inhabitants? A colony that then goes above and beyond to not only dominate the original indigenous people but to displace them into reserves so white people from all over the world can live on the newly "discovered" free land sounds very ethnostate to me.

But I dunno, I'm not American so I might just have a flawed image of things.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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jjack229 posted:

Not sure if you mean at it's begining or now. I don't know if people claimed this was the goal at beginning (or if it something we apply retroactively), but a country founded on genocide and slavery where only rich, white men could vote is not "dedicated to principles of democracy and humanity".

I agree that Americans like to talk about the US as though it were the defender of freedom around the world and that that would be at odds against white supremecy, but the actions of the US have always been at odds with that selfperception.

Sure, I'm not saying it was a good implementation of the idea, just that it was kind of what was historically new at the time, right? And what made America different from all the other countries in the world which were basically formalized tribal holdings.

E: And manifest destiny is poo poo, I'm not denying that, but iirc it was a post hoc justification for expansion in the 1820s+ when America wanted to flex its muscles as an industrial power, it wasn't part of the original brief

Angry Salami
Jul 27, 2013

Don't trust the skull.

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Pretty sure the French Republic was the first modern nation by a wide margin to declare everyone (with a dick) born in its territory, regardless of race, ethnicity, or religion, to be “a Frenchman” guaranteed all rights and duties of citizenship. That credo of universal frenchness is still pretty integral to french nationalism even when it’s applied in bigoted ways (why won’t they assimilate when we told them they can be french??) It’s more like american nationalism than to “you must be from here night unto twenty generations.”

France is like the dumbest euro country to apply an ethnic standard to. There were more tolerant countries but they were tolerant in the sense of “we will not ethnically cleanse or forcibly convert you weird foreigners” whereas France pioneered the idea of a nationality transcending race entirely.

Alexander Dumas' father was the son of a Haitian slave and a general in the Revolutionary Army. He's quoted as telling his troops that "Tyrants should know they are loathed by men of all colours." :france:

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Shbobdb posted:

so she isn't this crazy person.

I think I might have some bad news for you

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Yeah the expression is "if it's stupid but it works, then it isn't stupid."

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Who What Now posted:

I think I might have some bad news for you

She is definitely a crazy person, just not a crazy bigot. She is a ton of fun at parties but she is a hot loving mess and is currently being counseled out of her position.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

The expression is "don't stick your dick in crazy". If you don't have one, you can go hog wild.



Or hogless wild.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Byzantine posted:

The expression is "don't stick your dick in crazy". If you don't have one, you can go hog wild.



Or hogless wild.

Well then we obviously need to start saying "don't perform tribadism with crazy" more often

Eschenique
Jul 19, 2019

Byzantine posted:

The expression is "don't stick your dick in crazy". If you don't have one, you can go hog wild.



Or hogless wild.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

Byzantine posted:

The expression is "don't stick your dick in crazy". If you don't have one, you can go hog wild.



Or hogless wild.

According to intel I've intercepted, you shouldnt slam your clam on crazy either

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Nastyman posted:

"This is actually good for Russia" is the new "This will make the terrorists win". The right is so far removed from ever having real, tangible ideals that they think associating OPPOSITION_ACTIVITY with BAD_THING_WE_DID will make those desperately woke kids drop the issue.

I got bad news for you about the woke kids and Russia

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Who What Now posted:

Well then we obviously need to start saying "don't perform tribadism with crazy" more often

don't trib crazy
don't frot crazy

(I have no room to speak here)

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Way of the Transhomo would be a good kung fu movie.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻

mind the walrus posted:

You forgot Borg Cube vs. Death Star holy poo poo

When nerds start inter-franchise pissing matches, why is the side that lost the one always chose to represent Star Wars?

Eschenique
Jul 19, 2019

All I knew growing up was that there were 2 star shows. In one show they shot blasters and waved laser swords. In the other people just stood around talking all the time.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Fathis Munk posted:

I dunno, maybe I got this wrong image in my mind, but to me it was always about *white* people from all over the world, it's not like Chinese immigrants were ever well received for example. To my understanding, an ethno state isn't focused on nationality, but rather race and skin color.

Wasn't the whole point of manifest destiny justifying that God made America for white men and that they should expand and seize it from indigenous inhabitants? A colony that then goes above and beyond to not only dominate the original indigenous people but to displace them into reserves so white people from all over the world can live on the newly "discovered" free land sounds very ethnostate to me.

But I dunno, I'm not American so I might just have a flawed image of things.

The american (and french and haitian and spanish-american, all of these kind of go together) revolutionaries posed questions about stuff like this to each other and didn't necessarily agree on one idea. The whole lot of them were pretty loving reactionary by modern standards but unless you're talking about one specific person* then you can't really define what "revolutionaries" especially in this period thought their new system should be. You can definitely find exceptions who still sound progressive for today.

*for example Thomas Jefferson did a lot of public handwringing about slavery while happily being a slaving rapist monster. Toussaint Louverture was an anti-slavery firebrand who immediately promulgated laws tying newly-freed people to work their plantations and maintain sugar quotas as "free men." Simon Bolivar preached pan-americanism and abolished slavery and the racial caste system but never took anyone but white criollo aristocrats into his inner circle or army command.. We can take the good ideas about their revolutions without having to do exactly what these assholes thought.

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy

Dr Christmas posted:

When nerds start inter-franchise pissing matches, why is the side that lost the one always chose to represent Star Wars?
The scrappy underdog rebels don't build a lot of superweapons? I'm sure there must've been a million tragic arguments about whether or not the millennium falcon could beat up the daleks or whatever though :v:

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



I knew it having that ramp to get on board would backfire.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

don't trib crazy
don't frot crazy

(I have no room to speak here)

I'm extremely jealous that you have both tribbed and frotted crazy!

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Eschenique posted:

All I knew growing up was that there were 2 star shows. In one show they shot blasters and waved laser swords. In the other people just stood around talking all the time.

Believe it or not the one where they stand around talking all the time has a way better sense of humor about itself.

Edgar Allen Ho posted:


*for example Thomas Jefferson did a lot of public handwringing about slavery while happily being a slaving rapist monster. Toussaint Louverture was an anti-slavery firebrand who immediately promulgated laws tying newly-freed people to work their plantations and maintain sugar quotas as "free men." Simon Bolivar preached pan-americanism and abolished slavery and the racial caste system but never took anyone but white criollo aristocrats into his inner circle or army command.. We can take the good ideas about their revolutions without having to do exactly what these assholes thought.

:hmmyes:

MageMage
Feb 11, 2007

I SUCK AND LOVE TO YELL PERFORMATIVE HOT TAKES AND NONSENSE LIES WHEN I GET WORKED UP. SOMETIMES AUTOBANNED IS BETTER. MAYBE ONE DAY WHEN I STORM OFF I'LL ACTUALLY STOP SHITTING UP THE SITE FOR REAL

Six-Of-Hearts posted:

Please don't refer to us by porn terms.

Tgirl isn't a porn term get over yourself, it's been used by trans women for decades. I can think of a thousand legitimately derogatory porn terms, but tgirl no.

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Nastyman
Jul 11, 2007

There they sit
at the foot of the mountain
Taking hits
of the sacred smoke
Fire rips at their lungs
Holy mountain take us away

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I got bad news for you about the woke kids and Russia

All news is bad news and I am this 🤏 close to just checking out entirely.

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