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I still don't get how people accuse Nintendo of rehashing the same game over and over when Mario games tend to be extremely significantly different between CONSOLES, while basically every other AAA producer is at least some shade of Ubisoft in hashing out the same formula over and over and has been for years. (except for the New 2D Marios, I'll give them that) Doesn't help a lot of them lump in literally any game with Mario in the title as being the same for some reason.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I still don't get how people accuse Nintendo of rehashing the same game over and over when Mario games tend to be extremely significantly different between CONSOLES, while basically every other AAA producer is at least some shade of Ubisoft in hashing out the same formula over and over and has been for years. (except for the New 2D Marios, I'll give them that) New Mario games are about as different as new AC games
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Oct 7, 2018 02:48
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QuarkJets posted:New Mario games are about as different as new AC games What do you mean by that? Comparing Odyssey to 3D World to Galaxy?
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Oct 7, 2018 03:12
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There are a few new mechanics in each game and the settings change but the "formula" has been basically the same since Mario 64. Fans would rebel if they deviated from it but lol yeah, the games are all very similar
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Oct 7, 2018 03:45
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You haven't actually played any of those, right? 3D World I dropped in there specifically because it's very differently structured and controls differently from Galaxy and Odyssey entirely.
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Oct 7, 2018 03:53
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3d world doesn't play like the other 3d platformer Mario games, but it does play like the other 2d platformer Mario games
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Oct 7, 2018 05:02
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Uh guys, I'm sorry but AC means Armored Core, a cool and good series.
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Oct 7, 2018 05:33
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AC = Asherons Call 
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Oct 7, 2018 05:55
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if you enjoy assassin's creed i feel like you've got a bad brain, instead of a human brain you have some kind of simpler lizard brain
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Oct 7, 2018 06:03
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ac black flag is actually good.
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Oct 7, 2018 06:12
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QuarkJets posted:New Mario games are about as different as new AC games At least with the Sonic games they manage to gently caress it up in an entirely new way with each game.
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Oct 7, 2018 07:15
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Rutibex posted:AC = Asherons Call Basically a bad game but definitely not for being formulaic
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Oct 7, 2018 07:26
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QuarkJets posted:There are a few new mechanics in each game and the settings change but the "formula" has been basically the same since Mario 64. Fans would rebel if they deviated from it but lol yeah, the games are all very similar I'd argue that the main line of 3D mario games you're talking about innovate in the core "formula" more than Assassin's Creed does. AC's formula is going around doing tedious bullshit, and maybe they add some bells and whistles to that, but it's pretty much the same thing every time. Mario games are all about the movement, getting from place to place efficiently and in a fun way. Mario 64 is the first, Sunshine added FLUDD which is totally different, Galaxy added the gravity poo poo, and Odyssey's extra moves from the hat add a lot too. The movement of Mario 64 is in all of them, but each adds something different on top, like what Platinum does using the same basic style of combat for Bayonetta, Revengeance, and even Wonderful 101, but with each having their own special thing on top of that. Basically what I'm saying is AC is a pile of dogshit and even Mario games manage to spice things up far more than AC ever tried.
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Oct 7, 2018 08:43
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really? so is that why quarkjets is so angry?
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Oct 7, 2018 08:52
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sorry to interrupt you, you're good at what again?
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Oct 7, 2018 08:55
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marijuanamancer posted:really? so is that why quarkjets is so angry? 
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Oct 7, 2018 09:09
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Mario Sunshine = Mario 64 with a hose Mario Galaxy = Mario 64 with a mouse pointer Mario 3D Land = Mario 64 but without the exploration Mario Odyssey = Mario 64 but you can throw your hat
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Oct 7, 2018 09:11
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Let me clear up this debate once and for all Mario and AC are both poo poo franchises
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Oct 7, 2018 09:13
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EvilGenius posted:Mario Sunshine = Mario 64 with a hose Sir, I can throw my hat any drat time I please
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Oct 7, 2018 09:15
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Vegetable posted:Let me clear up this debate once and for all Nah.
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Oct 7, 2018 09:17
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lowkey the greatest innovation of Odyssey is not resetting the stage when you get the target shiny thing
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Oct 7, 2018 09:17
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People who actually find a way to hate mario games are the most trash tier dorks out there.
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Oct 7, 2018 09:28
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veni veni veni posted:People who actually find a way to hate mario games are the most trash tier dorks out there. b-b-b-b-but odyssey only takes 5 hours to beat!!!
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Oct 7, 2018 09:34
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signalnoise posted:lowkey the greatest innovation of Odyssey is not resetting the stage when you get the target shiny thing It's just Banjo with a hat. Actually Odyssey is basically ripping off the Banjo-Kazooie formula but with Mario.
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Oct 7, 2018 09:38
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Every time someone goes off on how bad Mario is, I imagine some elephant man looking motherfucker sitting in a pile of his own diarrhea.
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Oct 7, 2018 09:43
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Vegetable posted:Let me clear up this debate once and for all Mario is an incredible game, and he is an incredible man.
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Oct 7, 2018 09:45
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If you think about it, all iterations are ripoffs
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Oct 7, 2018 09:45
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veni veni veni posted:Every time someone goes off on how bad Mario is, I imagine some elephant man looking motherfucker sitting in a pile of his own diarrhea. I was kind of trolling, but I do genuinely think Sunshine is terrible.
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Oct 7, 2018 09:48
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EvilGenius posted:I was kind of trolling, but I do genuinely think Sunshine is terrible. Its main problem was that the jetpack made getting around too easy. That's why those shadow world levels or whatever where it's just get from point A to point B across some rotating blocks were the best shines in the game. They were really good shines though, and I would pay for a game that was nothing but like 300 of those, like in the progression style of Treasure Tracker or something. Other than that and some completely bullshit camera placement on certain levels, like the one where you're inside a pachinko machine, it was a fine game.
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Oct 7, 2018 09:52
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veni veni veni posted:People who actually find a way to hate mario games are the most trash tier dorks out there. Sign me up for Team Trash. There hasn't been a good Mario game since World 2, which was a distinct downgrade from World, which was a distinct downgrade from SMB3.
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Oct 7, 2018 09:58
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I know sure as hell you haven't even played most of them so I don't know how you'd form such a strong opinion
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Oct 7, 2018 10:15
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veni veni veni posted:I know sure as hell you haven't even played most of them so I don't know how you'd form such a strong opinion They're bad, so I don't play them. And trust me I know good platformers because I am a fiercely dedicated Good-Opinion Person.
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Oct 7, 2018 10:19
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I dunno, I feel like on a scale of 1-10 of Mario fandom I'm at about a 3 but they are very fun games and people that hate them are loving weirdos.
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Oct 7, 2018 10:22
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signalnoise posted:Its main problem was that the jetpack made getting around too easy. That's why those shadow world levels or whatever where it's just get from point A to point B across some rotating blocks were the best shines in the game. They were really good shines though, and I would pay for a game that was nothing but like 300 of those, like in the progression style of Treasure Tracker or something. Other than that and some completely bullshit camera placement on certain levels, like the one where you're inside a pachinko machine, it was a fine game. Galaxy or 3D Land is pretty much the game you describe. But yeah, my complaints were pretty much the same. The jetpack took all the fun out of Mario's freakish agility, and they didn't leave enough room for the camera to move around in a lot of levels. poo poo, even in Mario 64 thet clearly designed in a lot of room for the camera.
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Oct 7, 2018 10:27
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veni veni veni posted:I dunno, I feel like on a scale of 1-10 of Mario fandom I'm at about a 3 but they are very fun games and people that hate them are loving weirdos. Would you by any chance say that the Mario opinions of said loving weirdos are unpopular?
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Oct 7, 2018 10:32
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Sign me up for Team Trash. There hasn't been a good Mario game since World 2, which was a distinct downgrade from World, which was a distinct downgrade from SMB3. World was miles better than 3 3 had those boring rear end slowly scrolling ship and tank levels and doesn't control as smoothly as world, where you're just flying all over the place killing things with precise jumps. Shibawanko fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Oct 7, 2018 |
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Oct 7, 2018 10:34
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Shibawanko posted:World was miles better than 3 The best Mario game is Super Mario Bros 2. No I don't mean Lost Levels, I mean Doki Doki Panic.
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Oct 7, 2018 10:37
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super mario rpg is the best mario game edit: or maybe mario 64 jimmyjams fucked around with this message at 10:45 on Oct 7, 2018 |
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Oct 7, 2018 10:39
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Sign me up for Team Trash. There hasn't been a good Mario game since World 2, which was a distinct downgrade from World, which was a distinct downgrade from SMB3. Assuming you mean Yoshi's Island, that's not a real Mario game.
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Shibawanko posted:World was miles better than 3 Nope nope nope, this just won't do. I'm sorry, your post has been downvoted.
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