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McFrugal posted:What I don't understand is why people put flasks in their shop tab if they're not going to bother to sell them.
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Jan 16, 2018 22:17
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McFrugal posted:Instant buyouts on the AH would work if it was restricted only to low ticket items that people don't want to leave maps to sell. Easier access to flasks and the shittiest uniques for 5-1 or leveling! not all non unique flasks are created equal. Some are worth 5c+ or more. Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:most of the time theyre from when I put them in there near league start for easy chaos. if its a week into league there's no way in hell i'm leaving my map for 1c. if I'm doing another trade i'll do it. I suspect that's what other people are doing too. That's why when I buy 1-2c items I look for the person who listed it most recently, they usually respond. maps too! Those or the worst to buy.
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Jan 16, 2018 22:21
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[3.1] Gilded Cage's Comprehensive Guide to Maps Very detailed mapping guide.
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Jan 16, 2018 23:01
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didn't know you got a 30% bonus for running maps unidentified, neato
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Jan 16, 2018 23:17
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My first Elder appeared in Vault. 
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Jan 16, 2018 23:17
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https://twitter.com/pathofexile/status/953387005919940608 LMAO
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Jan 16, 2018 23:17
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I'm at work, what's the tweet?
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Jan 16, 2018 23:21
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Kaom getting home court advantage is some WWE poo poo
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Jan 16, 2018 23:22
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loving LOL Daresso got destroyed, even with the OP immunity phases and going super-saiyan.
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Jan 16, 2018 23:22
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Ciaphas posted:I'm at work, what's the tweet? It's a video of Daresso fighting Kaom. Very close fight. Seems like having minions was what tipped it in Kaom's favour.
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Jan 16, 2018 23:24
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I want to see 100 Magnus vs 100 Danzig
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Jan 16, 2018 23:25
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Posting before I watch: I bet daresso murderates e: welp kaom's adds hosed him MMF Freeway fucked around with this message at 23:27 on Jan 16, 2018 |
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Jan 16, 2018 23:25
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MMF Freeway posted:Posting before I watch: I bet daresso murderates  J posted:Kaom getting home court advantage is some WWE poo poo Indeed. An actual 1 on 1 Daresso wins.
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Jan 16, 2018 23:28
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that's like saying i could beat any SRS build at pvp if they're not allowed to use SRS. the win is valid
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Jan 16, 2018 23:31
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If Daresso wanted to have friends to help him against Kaom maybe he wouldn't have ditched his wife like that
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Jan 16, 2018 23:33
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Holyshoot posted:maps too! Those or the worst to buy. Maps are also the worst to sell, but I think the reason maps are particularly poo poo to buy and sell this league comes down, in part, to the map tab reducing friction. It's very easy to list all of the low tier maps that you have no use for now, but no one wants to execute the actual trades because they aren't worth enough. Previously, it took enough effort to list maps that you probably actually wanted to do the deal if you took the time to do so.
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Jan 16, 2018 23:34
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kaom had like 1 hp left, that's more of a tie
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Jan 16, 2018 23:37
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Wallet posted:Maps are also the worst to sell, but I think the reason maps are particularly poo poo to buy and sell this league comes down, in part, to the map tab reducing friction. It's very easy to list all of the low tier maps that you have no use for now, but no one wants to execute the actual trades because they aren't worth enough. Previously, it took enough effort to list maps that you probably actually wanted to do the deal if you took the time to do so. you can list a whole tier of maps at once? If they're being listed one at a time as they drop what does it matter what tab they're in?
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Jan 16, 2018 23:42
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Zero VGS posted:You melt uniques? As opposed to, I dunno, socking them away in a tab in case you have a build that needs it later? I keep a handful of worthless(<alch) one-slot uniques around for the fortune just because I really like trade gambling. I keep a bunch of tier threshold vises and eyes for my build for the same reason.
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Jan 16, 2018 23:56
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Venuz Patrol posted:that's like saying i could beat any SRS build at pvp if they're not allowed to use SRS. the win is valid I don't see Kaom (or a totem of his) casting SRS 
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Jan 17, 2018 00:01
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:granted, d3 is the same way. all arpgs are. Well, except D3 is all SSF all the time now 
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Jan 17, 2018 00:10
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:if its a week into league there's no way in hell i'm leaving my map for 1c. this is a real problem, because most trade volume is of cheap items! every time you pm someone to get maps for atlas completions, or a cheap leveling unique, or whatever, it's very likely they won't bother to leave their map.
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Jan 17, 2018 00:11
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hawowanlawow posted:you can list a whole tier of maps at once? If they're being listed one at a time as they drop what does it matter what tab they're in? I'm not sure I understand either of your questions or if they're even questions at all.
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Jan 17, 2018 00:13
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Holyshoot posted:not all non unique flasks are created equal. Some are worth 5c+ or more. I meant like, you couldn't sell anything instantly for more than 1 alch.
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Jan 17, 2018 00:18
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Wallet posted:I'm not sure I understand either of your questions or if they're even questions at all. you said the map tab reduces friction. As in it's easier to list maps. How? which tab they're in doesn't make them easier to list unless you can list more than one at a time.
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Jan 17, 2018 00:34
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hawowanlawow posted:you said the map tab reduces friction. As in it's easier to list maps. How? which tab they're in doesn't make them easier to list unless you can list more than one at a time. Map tab reduces friction as in it's easier to keep a load of maps stored than it was previously. This means people are less inclined to sell them.
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Jan 17, 2018 00:40
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hawowanlawow posted:you said the map tab reduces friction. As in it's easier to list maps. How? which tab they're in doesn't make them easier to list unless you can list more than one at a time. First, as TheRat pointed out, people can store a fuckload of maps that previously would be eating into their stash space. Second, you can in fact list more than one at a time with the map tab—you can list an entire tier of maps, actually. Wallet fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jan 17, 2018 |
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Jan 17, 2018 00:42
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Wallet posted:First, as TheRat pointed out, people can store a fuckload of maps that previously would be eating into their stash space. Ok. Up until now in the thread "less friction" has meant "more listings." That's GGGs argument against the AH. Wallet posted:Second, you can in fact list more than one at a time with the map tab—you can list an entire tier of maps, actually. Thanks, that's what I was asking when I asked if you could list an entire tier of maps. Seems like one argument is for less listings and one is for more.
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Jan 17, 2018 00:54
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hawowanlawow posted:Ok. Up until now in the thread "less friction" has meant "more listings." That's GGGs argument against the AH. That is what it means, but listing something and actually selling it aren't the same thing. The map tab makes it very easy to list all of the maps you want to, and the tab also makes it easy to store them forever; both of these things make it easier to list maps, one in that it is literally easier to list the maps, and the other in the sense that previously people would just vendor (or delete, or donate, or whatever) low tier maps because they were taking up a bunch of stash space, but now it costs them nothing to have them listed until the end of time. TheRat's statement (that it's easier to store a load of maps which makes people less inclined to sell them) does read sort of contradictory, but what I assume he means is that the ease of doing so makes people more inclined to list maps, but the fact that there is no pressure to get rid of them to reclaim stash space also means that there is no motivation (beyond whatever someone is paying for the map) to actually complete the sale.
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Jan 17, 2018 01:37
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I don't think there are less maps on the market, but j do have to message more people before one responds. Probably since there are more. People just casually listing entire tiers rather than only people seriously intending on selling them
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Jan 17, 2018 04:07
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I can't believe we're still here. If it were both trivial to list items for sale and trivial to transact then you've just destroyed the core game loop. Items matter. Pick easy listings or easy transacting, not both. Why is this so hard?
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Jan 17, 2018 05:23
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pork never goes bad posted:I can't believe we're still here. If it were both trivial to list items for sale and trivial to transact then you've just destroyed the core game loop. Items matter. Pick easy listings or easy transacting, not both. Why is this so hard? None of what you said is hard to understand. Most of it is wrong. I can't believe we're still here, either.
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Jan 17, 2018 06:00
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Eminai posted:None of what you said is hard to understand. Most of it is wrong. I can't believe we're still here, either. if only there existed an example of a game in this genre that tried the seamless and easy to use auction house thing, that sure would help inform our opinions.
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Jan 17, 2018 06:30
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I thought about playing PoE today, thought about this thread, and watched a movie instead.
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Jan 17, 2018 07:27
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D3's auction house wasn't a failure because it was easy though or because items were balanced for availability with it. It failed because the difficulty leap between the penultimate and ultimate difficulty was significant enough that only the 1% of players could make the transition without brute forcing it by buying items only available at a higher level, and Blizzard had to relearn something they'd already spent WoW's lifetime learning - that players see content as an entitlement, not a reward.
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Jan 17, 2018 08:04
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People defending the trade system in PoE is stockholm syndrome: the game
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Jan 17, 2018 09:41
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D3 ah doesn't count because game was too hard, lmao Maybe stop pestering people about buying their spare buttons for crumbs 2 months in a league
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Jan 17, 2018 10:08
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Yolomon Wayne posted:People defending the trade system in PoE is stockholm syndrome: the game Or we just, you know, actually understand how to use it instead of whining about it all the time.
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Jan 17, 2018 10:15
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Magus42 posted:Or we just, you know, actually understand how to use it instead of whining about it all the time. being forced to buy maps is a chore and terrible they had solved it with horizon and harbinger orbs and they loving wasted it
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Jan 17, 2018 10:42
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Goa Tse-tung posted:being forced to buy maps is a chore and terrible Nobody's forced to buy maps. Sometimes I feel like there should be a mandated SSF course before people start playing trade leagues, just so they're forced to learn tricks and shortcuts. (I don't actually mean that, but it's kind of frustrating to hear so many people complain about trade-issues they can easily solve by themselves)
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Jan 17, 2018 10:52
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