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was WWIII the Eugenics war or was that another devastating war in human history?
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the original draft of first contact said that china was the chief belligerent in ww3 eugenics wars were different
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Nov 27, 2016 00:21
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I'm liking the obvious continuity errors in season 4 of Voyager so far, where everyone on board the ship (and especially Paris and Torres) state they don't know how to make transwarp work when two seasons earlier, they did manage to make transwarp work. I remember the episode because it was the one where Paris turns into a Newt, abducts Janeway, fucks her, they have a spool of newt babies, and then they are magically turned back into humans.
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Nov 27, 2016 01:31
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Tekopo posted:I'm liking the obvious continuity errors in season 4 of Voyager so far, where everyone on board the ship (and especially Paris and Torres) state they don't know how to make transwarp work when two seasons earlier, they did manage to make transwarp work. Nope, I was wrong. Nevermind.
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Nov 27, 2016 01:36
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The demographics of the federation seem to be mostly white people and what ever other groups are currently living in the US. I've always said WWIII must have basically killed everyone outside of north america since we never see anyone explicitly from a non-american culture. Picard being slightly french is seen as a novelty and the fact that he actually knows some french is unusual. North america and pockets of europe survived but there's like no non-american africans or asians in trek. It's all just the descendants of people who survived in north america. That or, you know, an american show using american actors for an american audience.
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Nov 27, 2016 01:45
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well it is supposed to be a utopian future
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Nov 27, 2016 01:47
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Baronjutter posted:The demographics of the federation seem to be mostly white people and what ever other groups are currently living in the US. I've always said WWIII must have basically killed everyone outside of north america since we never see anyone explicitly from a non-american culture. Picard being slightly french is seen as a novelty and the fact that he actually knows some french is unusual. North america and pockets of europe survived but there's like no non-american africans or asians in trek. It's all just the descendants of people who survived in north america. Harry Kim himself however is more of an Epcot-centre recreation of a pre-war Asian person, which explains why he clumsily has the last name Kim but is also Chinese.
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Nov 27, 2016 01:53
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Baronjutter posted:we never see anyone explicitly from a non-american culture 
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Nov 27, 2016 01:55
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I just watched the DS9 episode "Sacrifice of Angels" and holy poo poo was that a good loving episode. Like it's up there with The Best of Both Worlds and All Good Things. I unfortunately have to live with the fact that they're going to ruin Gul Dukat going forward
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Nov 27, 2016 02:24
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Hello fellow earthmonkey pinkskins. What do you think about the Star Trek: Enterprise character Shran, honorable captain of the Imperial Guard and all-around good dude. I think he really made the series. I sure wish I could be as cool and good as Shran. I also hear all the nice pinkskin ladypeople want his antennae.
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Nov 27, 2016 02:36
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Fojar38 posted:I just watched the DS9 episode "Sacrifice of Angels" and holy poo poo was that a good loving episode. Like it's up there with The Best of Both Worlds and All Good Things. You still have Waltz, which is the definitive Dukat episode. Everything following that is a mixed bag of hilariously bad to just awful.
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Nov 27, 2016 02:45
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Worf's parents are Russian and I think the Bashirs are Australian edit: but the accent is wrong. Why do I think that?
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Nov 27, 2016 03:27
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Without looking it up the Bashirs are East London cockneys, are they not?
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Nov 27, 2016 03:36
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...and the pitch! posted:Worf's parents are Russian and I think the Bashirs are Australian I thought the Bashirs were middle eastern
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Nov 27, 2016 03:41
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Shran owns, im not all the way through enterprise but the redemption characters for the old rear end in a top hat species are always great.
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Nov 27, 2016 03:41
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I don't think it's ever stated where Bashir's family come from. They sound British and Bashir is an Arabic name, but that's all we know. His dad was sent to the penal colony in New Zealand at the end of his episode. Maybe that's where the confusion comes from.
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Nov 27, 2016 03:49
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I could swear they mention travelling from Sydney but I'll be damned if I'm going to watch that episode to find out. It wouldn't mean they were from there anyway.
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Nov 27, 2016 03:52
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I would watch a spinoff series consisting of nothing but Garak and Bashir having lunch conversations.
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Nov 27, 2016 03:57
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Far too much Bashir for me. I'd watch a spinoff of Garak having weekly claustrophobic episodes.
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Nov 27, 2016 04:01
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Why does Earth still have so much regionalism in a universe where you can beam from New York to Kazakhstan whenever you want
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Nov 27, 2016 04:02
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Fojar38 posted:Why does Earth still have so much regionalism in a universe where you can beam from New York to Kazakhstan whenever you want It's a hobby. People decide they're gonna be Russian today or whatever. Same deal as running a jambalaya shack.
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Nov 27, 2016 04:18
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Fojar38 posted:Why does Earth still have so much regionalism in a universe where you can beam from New York to Kazakhstan whenever you want That would endanger the experience of going to Key West once in your life time.
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Nov 27, 2016 04:19
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I would watch a spinoff series consisting of nothing but Garak and Bashir having lunch conversations. And it shall be called Raktajino and Cigarettes.
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Nov 27, 2016 04:19
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Baronjutter posted:Yeah it often seems weird how ignorant everyone is of human history. You think that would be something aliens would study to understand humans a bit better. It's always jokes about how soft and weak and cowardly humans are. We've done poo poo that would make the Obsidian Order grossed out, we've had regimes that make the Romulans look ethical and open, we've had wars that would see Klingons pissing their pants and crying in the trenches. Humans are god drat terrifying and one replicator shortage away from going full hitler. Gene would argue we've conquered these urges but gently caress you gene, unless we've been genetically engineered to change some pretty core instincts we've hyper violent tribal primates. I think with every species, though, they'd find a way to sort of find a way to sugarcoat or infantilize the human horrors as not that big a deal. Klingons could probably look at human wars and just go, "Well, you know, those awful examples of humanity... that's just ants fighting and there's nothing really horrific about that. No... A Klingon war far less brutal and bloody is actually worse because our methods of combat, honor and motivations have so much more subtlety that it just cannot help but generate a greater sense of emotion, and yes, 'horror' to the spirit and mind of any sentient being if you were to compare them side by side... That is, if non-Klingons could even appreciate the depth which even the most minor Klingon skirmish carries with it." The Romulans/Cardassians would probably make a big deal about, "Oh, you had purges to eliminate and reeducate people who did not fit into your governments' dogmas? Is that what you call what you did? Clumsy is what we'd call it. Clumsy and inefficient. Your entire history on the subject reads like children throwing tantrums. It's unsophisticated and almost amusing if it were not so embarrassing. It's only fitting, I suppose. You see this book one of your Starfleet crew gave me? '1984'. Controversial, you say? I read it to humor them, and I must admit I found its only controversial quality is that it is not considered literature only fit for the amusement of children in your culture."
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Nov 27, 2016 04:46
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it's explicitly stated that vulcans were the worst of all, even worse than humans
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Nov 27, 2016 04:49
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VectorSigma posted:it's explicitly stated that vulcans were the worst of all, even worse than humans They say they committed much worse atrocities but are these atrocious mentioned in detail?
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Nov 27, 2016 07:58
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Well Vulcan is desert, and assuming life evolved there, I'm betting whatever they did caused complete ecological collapse.
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Nov 27, 2016 08:20
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pomery posted:They say they committed much worse atrocities but are these atrocious mentioned in detail? Some of the most brutal passive aggressive notes the universe has ever seen.
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Nov 27, 2016 08:22
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pomery posted:They say they committed much worse atrocities but are these atrocious mentioned in detail? Enterprise goes into a little detail during the fourth season. Basically what became the Romulans fought what became the Vulcans in a full nuclear exchange. They also threw in psionic mind destroyers and all other sorts of sci-fi CIA wet dream super weapons because they all went legit crazy to see each other dead. They turned their world into a volcanic desert with a couple stray oceans and that is after a couple thousand years of ecological rehab.
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Nov 27, 2016 08:58
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bloodychill posted:Some of the most brutal passive aggressive notes the universe has ever seen. The Vulcan Museum of War has a showcase of post-it notes the ancient vulcans left each other on the fridge The one that sparked the final war is a brittle note that reads, "Really? Really?"
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Nov 27, 2016 12:42
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Trast posted:Enterprise goes into a little detail during the fourth season. Basically what became the Romulans fought what became the Vulcans in a full nuclear exchange. They also threw in psionic mind destroyers and all other sorts of sci-fi CIA wet dream super weapons because they all went legit crazy to see each other dead. They turned their world into a volcanic desert with a couple stray oceans and that is after a couple thousand years of ecological rehab. They were just getting ready to turn a corner on that rehab, too, until Nero showed up.
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Nov 27, 2016 12:46
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I'd like to see a klingon boast about inter-human conflicts, and then some human who doesn't know history that well picks a Holo program at random and ends up picking The Somme or Okinawa. They both come out with ptsd
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Nov 27, 2016 15:22
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Shran is cool and good
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Nov 27, 2016 15:31
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CharlieWhiskey posted:Shran is cool and good I believe you mean LIQUIDATOR Brunt, FCA.
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Nov 27, 2016 15:51
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Weyoun bitches
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Nov 27, 2016 16:10
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Haven't watched enterprise but Weyoun is rhe best Combs character. No Question.
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Nov 27, 2016 18:14
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All of these are merely avatars of Shran. Shran, then admiral in the mighty imperial guard, spread his seed across the galaxy so that it might benefit future generations in far off places.
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Nov 27, 2016 18:41
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The fact that the vast majority of sentient life in the Trek universe is very similar to humanity (the children of adam and eve) and, apparently, is sexually compatible with man (the children of adam and eve), is evidence that "Star Trek" is a work of christian fiction. You see, all of the aliens were created in god's (as we know Him) image, meaning that this universe was created by the Judeo-Christian god from the Bible. Furthermore, the fact that all these weird aliens look like humans (the children of adam and eve) is proof that God came here first and that we (the children of adam and eve) are his favored people.
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Nov 27, 2016 18:49
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Trast posted:Enterprise goes into a little detail during the fourth season. Basically what became the Romulans fought what became the Vulcans in a full nuclear exchange. They also threw in psionic mind destroyers and all other sorts of sci-fi CIA wet dream super weapons because they all went legit crazy to see each other dead. They turned their world into a volcanic desert with a couple stray oceans and that is after a couple thousand years of ecological rehab. Thanks for the info. Now I want I gritty Vulcan-Romulus war series with mind control shenanigans.
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