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Covok posted:I just worked with a recruiter to get the strangest job interview of my life. Here is what happened. tbh by "math and spelling test" it was obvious how the post was going to end, with them only looking to pay rock bottom salary. Recruiters lie, .mp4 at 11
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Eric the Mauve posted:tbh by "math and spelling test" it was obvious how the post was going to end, with them only looking to pay rock bottom salary. Yeah either an honest mismatch somewhere or someone wasn't honest in the recruiter/ company conversation. Recruiters lie but hiring managers do too.
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Jul 22, 2022 19:19
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Eric the Mauve posted:tbh by "math and spelling test" it was obvious how the post was going to end, with them only looking to pay rock bottom salary. To be honest, I think he is also lying about what they were looking for in a salary. I googled the job description and found the exact same job description posted by the company offering only 55k. I actually called the recruiter out on this yesterday but he said he already told them what I was looking for was way more than that. So, I think the 10k difference thing is a lie he said. 55k would be almost a 50k difference in expectations. Which would explain the fart in the room effect. Edit: Probably needless to say but 55k would be a significant pay cut for me so I immediately called out the recruiter on this. I only got the idea to double check things yesterday but I already was going to take the day so I decided to go anyway. Covok fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jul 22, 2022 |
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Jul 22, 2022 20:07
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nothin wrong with a little interview practice
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Jul 22, 2022 20:12
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:nothin wrong with a little interview practice The only thing I am worried about is they asked me to sign up for an employment reference check, but the contract and them said it would only occur if I accepted the offer. It still struck me as odd and had me a little worried since my current job is unaware. I marked "no" on the application asking them not to contact my current employer. But then I got additional paperwork to sign to authorize a reference check that would occur on acceptance of any offers. It still made me uneasy. Edit: I asked the HR person about it and she said they'd only do it if I accepted an offer because it costs them money so there is no reason to do it if they weren't getting anything from it, when I mentioned my concern. Covok fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jul 22, 2022 |
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Jul 22, 2022 20:17
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:nothin wrong with a little
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Jul 22, 2022 20:32
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I will be honest. I definitely hot to convert ounces to cups. That was actually a question. I guess gently caress people not from America? I mean, I am, but also don't know the imperial system. I use in my kitchen because everything in America is written in it, but I don't grok it, you know? School taught me the metric system in my area.
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Jul 22, 2022 20:42
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Covok posted:I will be honest. I definitely hot to convert ounces to cups. That's actually really non-trivial. If you're doing it with water, you can just use "a pint's a pound the world around" and go 2 cups = pint = pound = 16 oz and conclude one cup = 8 oz. However, if what you're measuring has a different density than water, it might be lighter or heavier for the same volume.
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Jul 22, 2022 20:47
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Quackles posted:That's actually really non-trivial. Wtf? A pint is 20oz by law. https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/mc-mc.nsf/eng/h_lm00007.html
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Jul 22, 2022 21:02
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I interviewed for a role a few weeks ago that required me to take a test of 50 SAT-like questions. You needed at least 20 questions right. I was sweating, you guys. I know that you're supposed to just skip the ones you don't immediately get, but you could only do 5 at a time and once you passed to the next page, you couldn't go back, which is some bullshit.
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Jul 22, 2022 21:04
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i had to take the wonderlic as part of an interview
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Jul 22, 2022 21:29
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Mantle posted:Wtf? A pint is 20oz by law. Only in Britain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_imperial_and_US_customary_measurement_systems#Volume
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Jul 22, 2022 21:29
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i had to take the wonderlic as part of an interview I did too and got a very mediocre score. got the job anyway.
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Xguard86 posted:I did too and got a very mediocre score. got the job anyway. they wouldn't tell me my score but probably did well; they gave me an offer
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Jul 22, 2022 21:38
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Yeah I found out mine years later when I was working with the recruiting team. We ditched it around that time because no one could find a correlation between scores and performance, so why make people do it? Standardized tests are also a skill and you forget a lot fast. Anyone thinking of taking the GRE GMAT LSAT etc, do it while you're in school or immediately after and just bank your score.
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Jul 22, 2022 21:45
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:nothin wrong with a little interview practice Yeah this is how I look at it. I had my follow up interviews yesterday with one more scheduled for Tuesday (person was out on vacation so they asked if I'd be okay doing an interview with them next week). They went fine for the most part, couple of things in retrospect I wish I had asked or mentioned, but nothing major. The behavioral was easy, and I'm pretty sure I used the same work examples I did last time, but the interviewer seemed happy with it so whatever, not gonna stress about it. All three brought it up again that I had interviewed with them before last year, but were pleasant about it and all of them indicated they were glad I gave them a second shot. Also I didn't have to re-interview with the person I interviewed with last time who was clearly writing emails and messaging people during our interview, who then cut me off half way through the interview to tell me I didn't understand the role. Even though I was essentially repeating the description given to me by the hiring manager and fitting myself into that role. So that was a plus. Anyways, the hiring manager let it slip that they have two internal candidates to interview as well, so I'm treating this as practice at this point. Fully expecting the "THANKS FOR APPLYING BUT YOUR NEW JOB IS WITH ANOTHER EMPLOYER!" email next week, but if I get an offer, that'd be a welcome surprise.
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Jul 23, 2022 16:34
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Can anyone give me an example of an answer to the question "Tell me about yourself"? I know how I'm supposed to answer, but I tend to drag on too long. I'm looking for an answer so that I can understand the structure and pace. Please help, my job right now is incredibly toxic and its seriously affecting my mental health. Again, not looking for how to answer it, but a word for word example of how someone would answer that question. I seriously can't find a good one when searching, its all advice on how to do it without any concrete examples.
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Jul 24, 2022 23:03
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Smif-N-Wessun posted:Can anyone give me an example of an answer to the question "Tell me about yourself"? Mine goes something like “I’m from a small town in the Midwest. I ran away from home and joined the Navy so I didn’t have to CONTINUE to live in a small town in the Midwest. I’ve lived in 7 states, 3 countries, in 2.5 continents. I fiddle with computers and play blues guitar in my spare time and I think my expanded worldview makes me a great fit for your company.”
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Smif-N-Wessun posted:Can anyone give me an example of an answer to the question "Tell me about yourself"?
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Jul 25, 2022 12:26
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Agree with above if this question is asked early in an interview. This is the chance to give life context to your resume. If there's a 2 year gap where you moved to take care of your mom, can mention that briefly here. If asked later they might mean to tell them about you outside of work. EDIT: Aggressive autocorrect I didnt notice CarForumPoster fucked around with this message at 22:47 on Jul 25, 2022 |
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Jul 25, 2022 19:33
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CarForumPoster posted:Agree with above if this question is asked early in an interview. This is the chance to give life context to your resume. If they’re a 2 year gap where you moved to take care of your mom, can mention that briefly here.
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Jul 25, 2022 20:38
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Arquinsiel posted:Oh yeah, that's a solid point. In that case you list your hobbies and throw the coolest one in the middle like it's no big deal. Making beaded jewelry for my beanie babies 
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Jul 25, 2022 22:47
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Smif-N-Wessun posted:Can anyone give me an example of an answer to the question "Tell me about yourself"? Assuming it's the start-of-interview/introductory version, I aim for a 15-20 second summary of my resume, leave a hook for followup questions, and reiterate interest in the position (which, admittedly, is exceedingly brownnosery) Word for word: not my actual history posted:My name is Scout Wren and I've worked in the industry for 8 years, with the last five at mompopcorp. In that time, I implemented a new onboarding process for our department and helped HR launch it companywide. During that process, I realized that I enjoy building structures to help my coworkers succeed, which is why I'm really excited to talk to you more about this retention manager position. I think it's a great way to use this new passion while also leveraging my salesforce experience. A fun fact, memorable hobby, or anything to make the interviewers give a poo poo about you doesn't go amiss here either. I've found it's typically kind of an "unscored element" of interviews, usually not a question candidates are compared on but one that can engage the interviewers and lead to a better perception.
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Had my final interview today with an internal client that I'd be working with if I were hired. It went pretty well. Which wasn't a high bar to clear since last time I interviewed for this position, the other internal client I interviewed with was clearly writing emails and messaging people instead of paying attention. That and they cut me off at one point mid-sentence to tell me I didn't understand the role, despite me repeating verbatim what the hiring manager described the roll as not 20 minutes prior. In any case, I'm chalking this go-around purely as solid interviewing experience. I know they have two internal candidates interviewing for the role as well, so I'm already anticipating the rejection email by the end of the week. I did a lot better this time than I did last time though, felt a lot more at ease. So I'm gonna try learn from this as much as possible. On to the next one.
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Handsome Ralph posted:In any case, I'm chalking this go-around purely as solid interviewing experience.
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Had an interesting phone call. The guy on the phone told me my resume is great...if I wanted to stay in the field. He's actually the second recruiter I know who was a public accountant who fled the industry. He said he worked in basically the same gig as me and told me what I had to change. I thought I'd share it.
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good advice but i'd probably list a couple of types of industries, or prepare slight variants of the resume with different similar sets of industries. if i am in manufacturing idgaf if you did youth outreach nonprofits or whatever.
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Jul 27, 2022 18:31
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Version A Version B  Based on the advice, I made two versions. I think version A is better for my current job section. It's more focused on what I think a corporate accounting job would care about while not having any sentences or sections that are too long. Like, I dropped the sales data because that doesn't matter to a corporate accounting job and I greatly pulled back the tax info because most corporations outsource those functions.
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As a former hiring manager I would never read all that. People are skimming a whole lot of resumes. Keep your bullet points short with space in between. You can elaborate in the interview. Resumegenius has some great sample resumes for different fields, also some action words to use. Like if you do some kind of reports. Instead of saying "responsible for" say "accurately completed blah blah reports in compliance with (your industry) guidelines. Tell them how great you are at doing the thing and throw in any accomplishments they can relate to. One thing that has helped me since I'm applying for jobs in different industries is to have a document with a bunch of skills and bullet points. I just pop them in and do a custom resume based on the job description. I banged out 20 resumes in a couple hours this week. Had a pretty decent no pants Zoom interview today, felt good after a lovely in person one with the state a couple days ago. I blame pants.
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Jul 28, 2022 01:10
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Every interview is a no-pants interview if you’re bold enough.
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Sheesh one of those bullet points is a novel. I don’t think I ever have a bullet longer than two sentences, and I have to think real hard about whether it absolutely can’t be shorter when it is that long.
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Covok posted:Version A Dik Hz fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Jul 28, 2022 |
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Jul 28, 2022 11:04
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I don't know the specific space but it also seems to me like you're combining a lot of different duties in each bullet point. Bullet points should be used to separate ideas and concepts so that the reader can more readily find what they are looking for. If you reduced the word count by about 50% that would be good, too.
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Dik Hz posted:Your verb tenses should be consistent throughout the text block. You have some typos in there like complied to compiled. Also take a couple more passes to clean up your wordy prose. Succinctness is a virtue. Version A is better, but it reads like you gave up editing your rough draft half way through. agree with this. A is better, probably can be cut way back unless your industry is very specifically verbose.
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Jul 28, 2022 13:52
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Covok posted:Version A In addition to the verb tenses that others mentioned, I don't know if I like starting with "Team Lead" (LEED, the title of someone who leads) because I kept reading it as "Team Lead" (LED, the act of someone who leads in the past), which was confusion. Keep it as an action word for clarity so either "Lead team etc" or "Served as Team Lead etc." And yeah, I don't know if listing a million different industries is the best. Maybe you can put that in a block somewhere, in the same way a software developer might put their programming languages? OR you can just trim it to the 5-8 that sound most impressive to the prospect being targetted at the time. Overall they both seem alright at first glance, might give them another look when I'm not on lunch.
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One thing that strikes me on another read is a continuous use of "responsible for" which I do not care for. eg: "Responsible for the preparation of federal and state income tax returns for corporations, individuals, and partnerships" Why not just say "Prepared federal and state income tax returns for corporations, individuals, and partnerships"
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If we're doing CV review do you guys mind if I post mine? This is for contract manager positions which is a hybrid legal/operational role (doesn't strictly require a legal background but is good to have). I mentioned it upthread, but I've lived and worked outside of the US, but with some US focus in my work. An international background isn't necessarily a minus for this type of role, but it does mean you have more to prove.  Edit: also, what's the consensus on adding a line for certifications I'm working towards?
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dpkg chopra posted:If we're doing CV review do you guys mind if I post mine? Same warning I give everyone: I'm not a hiring manager; I'm a software developer who has read a bunch of resumes and helped a few friends and colleagues write them, including some not originally from the US. I tend to focus on words bullshit so forgive some mild pedantry. I think you should consider calling them 'skills' instead of 'highlights' since highlights sounds more like career highlights, specific moments instead of tangible benefits you can provide. Also, make them shorter and punchier with as few additional clauses as possible. For instance, Negotiation and Strong Interpersonal Skills aren't really related so concatenating them doesn't really work. Will someone reading this know what an AML or KYC are without being told? NDA is probably fine. You mostly have good action words for your resume, but you have a few outliers.
Honestly, I don't like that first bullet "Key Player" in the Senior Associate section at all. I (the fictional HR drone) don't care if you've been praised for anything; I want to know what your rear end can do for me. So it should be something like "Completed first credit card etc etc etc" or something. The issue is I don't even really understand what this accomplishment is supposed to be. Remember what the OP says: Bisty Q. posted:[*] The one weird old tip It sounds like that point is might be big standout in your career, but I can't tell by reading this. I also like to organize my sections of accomplishments from "most impressive" to "medium impressive" for impact. They're going to mostly be looking at the top of each entry in all probablity. Don't capitalize "subject-matter experts" unless that is the proper name of a company I've never heard of. This is real nitpicky, but it's at the top, so: In American English, I think it's way more common to say 10+ rather than +10. This
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I thin a different format might help you. Standard stuff: You're spending too much time describing the jobs and not enough on what your accomplishments are. You have some good ones when you have it though, just need to expand it. I don't like your highlights, too soft but I know this industry and it's not uncommon. I'd maybe combine points 5-8 into just.a general one. dpkg chopra posted:
If you've spent some money on books or coursework I'd add it. If it's the bar definitely list it.
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dpkg chopra posted:If we're doing CV review do you guys mind if I post mine? Also, if you’re targeting a resume at a specific job, tailor your bullet points to look as much like the job posting as possible. Straight up use the same action verbs if you can. Third, your highlights section is too long. You’re just repeating everything in your resume.
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