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Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

GutBomb posted:

I doubt anyone was expecting them to solve poverty. I think people were expecting some basic respect for the people they were filming. Driving cars with intentionally spoiled food into an impoverished village and flying off in a helicopter was obviously a joke but it was in really poor taste and marred an otherwise funny episode. I would have preferred they found a way to do the same stuff without exploiting the plight of the people of Bingo.

I can't imagine they didn't do something for them.

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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Well, one thing, it was easy to miss in the beginning of the episode, was that the people of Bingo weren't malnourished or starving. Their food wasn't the most tasty or varied, but they seemed to have enough of it.

They were mainly playing on the perceived state of the town. They painted the town as a bunch of people depressed because all they had was food staples to live on and boy wouldn't their life be better if they had fish because look at this vibrant coastal town.

In reality, I doubt the average person of Bingo were really that much worse off than the average person in Maputo.

Really, what the episode does is show what an isolating effect lack of infrastructure has. It took them 3 days to do 125 miles which is inconceivable to anyone in a western nation.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

drgitlin posted:

The whole thing felt in pretty poor taste.

Agreed. I didn't particularly enjoy it. Lots of very obvious gags telegraphed way in advance.

The only thing missing was Clarkson going "nyuck, nyuck" as he spun around in a circle pivoting on his head.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


All the episode proved to me was that motorcycles are unsafe and actively wish to harm you, and should not be ridden

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



bull3964 posted:

Really, what the episode does is show what an isolating effect lack of infrastructure has. It took them 3 days to do 125 miles which is inconceivable to anyone in a western nation.

Wasn't it 200 miles? Close enough that it doesn't really matter. They had a shot of a small/medium sedan making it's way down the flooded roads and I can't imagine it would survive being driven through those conditions for very long. At minimum the electricals would start suffering and the axle seals probably wouldn't appreciate being dunked in muddy puddles regularly.

eyebeem
Jul 18, 2013

by R. Guyovich
You’re all assuming that they took the “normal” route between the two towns. Anyone pull up a map to see if there’s actually a paved road that goes right between the two? It’s top gear Grand Tour. It’s sensationalistic and that includes doing everything the hard way for entertainment.

Also, the entire thing was obviously meant to call celebrities out in their bullshit photo ops, including the finale with the helicopter. Of course it’s in bad taste. Of course it “looks bad.” That’s the entire point. I guarantee they paid the town / did something to get approval to film there.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Yeah, there's some sort of highway or similar going between the two. ~360km in 5 hours.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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eyebeem posted:

You’re all assuming that they took the “normal” route between the two towns. Anyone pull up a map to see if there’s actually a paved road that goes right between the two? It’s top gear Grand Tour. It’s sensationalistic and that includes doing everything the hard way for entertainment.

Also, the entire thing was obviously meant to call celebrities out in their bullshit photo ops, including the finale with the helicopter. Of course it’s in bad taste. Of course it “looks bad.” That’s the entire point. I guarantee they paid the town / did something to get approval to film there.

I <3 MY SEPTUM

Skreemer
Jan 28, 2006
I like blue.

GutBomb posted:

I doubt anyone was expecting them to solve poverty. I think people were expecting some basic respect for the people they were filming. Driving cars with intentionally spoiled food into an impoverished village and flying off in a helicopter was obviously a joke but it was in really poor taste and marred an otherwise funny episode. I would have preferred they found a way to do the same stuff without exploiting the plight of the people of Bingo.

In a helicopter where the identification letters/numbers were changed to "chav".

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Bajaha posted:

Wasn't it 200 miles?

Thought they said 200km.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
James May driving the fish tank may be the funniest thing I've seen on this show.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

Waltzing Along posted:

James May driving the fish tank may be the funniest thing I've seen on this show.

I was howling every time he got drenched.

eyebeem
Jul 18, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Hamster laughing the first time May was getting drenched is one of the most real reactions I’ve ever seen from him. He was clearly unable to contain his amusement and I loved it.

DiggityDoink
Dec 9, 2007

eyebeem posted:

Hamster laughing the first time May was getting drenched is one of the most real reactions I’ve ever seen from him. He was clearly unable to contain his amusement and I loved it.

Yeah his and Clarkson's reaction to it was one of the best parts of the season.

eyebeem
Jul 18, 2013

by R. Guyovich
I don’t respond well to shouting.

dk2m
May 6, 2009
I’m amazed, even with the TV magic going on, that the bike continued to work. Holy poo poo

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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May channeling John Cleese in Clockwise, rehearsing his acceptance speech to himself over and over

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

dk2m posted:

I’m amazed, even with the TV magic going on, that the bike continued to work. Holy poo poo

Yeah, for an £800 bike with an electric starter it just kept going. I expected it to short out and die the first time Hammond went arse over tit.

davebo
Nov 15, 2006

Parallel lines do meet, but they do it incognito
College Slice

Waltzing Along posted:

James May driving the fish tank may be the funniest thing I've seen on this show.

Anyone who thought it was funny seeing someone get drenched anytime they slow down too abruptly should definitely check out Canada's Worst Driver. They have one challenge every season where they have a car with a water tank on the roof and either a hole cut for the water to dump on the driver, or more recently a series of tubes that shoot the water inside the cabin when they accelerate or brake too quickly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2aY-tAq68s&t=866s

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
Re: parking brake chat, I absolutely saved a lovely old van filled with college students from crashing off the side of a mountain road in Montana (near anaconda) with the lovely pedal parking brake. We had a brake line fail in the back as we started on a down grade and only by working the ebrake (which would lock up the rears but was better than nothing) was I able to get the van stopped. We camped right there on the side of the road after that.

Also re: SUV chat, doesn't the suburban still have low range on the 4wd models? Low range is what makes an SUV a real SUV in my book.

Loved the last few eps, thought that last one seemed in poor taste but it was probably the point. Really hope they have a two part special soon though as this last one wasn't long enough to be a true special.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

Really hope they have a two part special soon

You mean next season?

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

Also re: SUV chat, doesn't the suburban still have low range on the 4wd models? Low range is what makes an SUV a real SUV in my book.

Lots of lovely fake SUVs have low range. Basically all of Jeep's car-based trash offer it. Freedom Drive II on the Compass and Patriot, Active Drive II on the KL Cherokee, and Active Drive Low on the Renegade. The KL actually even has a locking variant with a true 4WD mode (Active Drive Lock) on the "Trailhawk" model, but it's still a lifted Dodge Dart rather than an actual truck.

There isn't really a hard line to draw anymore. You used to be able to say ladder frame only, but plenty of proper SUVs have gone at least partially unibody and some have been since day one. All proper trucks have longitudinal engines but not all longitudinal SUVs are proper trucks. True 4WD or AWD with a locking center diff is also a strong sign, but not a guarantee. Some vehicles you'd never expect are actually properly good off-road (first-gen Porsche Cayenne for example) if equipped with a reasonable wheel/tire combination and driven by someone who isn't afraid to get dirty.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

wolrah posted:

Lots of lovely fake SUVs have low range. Basically all of Jeep's car-based trash offer it. Freedom Drive II on the Compass and Patriot, Active Drive II on the KL Cherokee, and Active Drive Low on the Renegade. The KL actually even has a locking variant with a true 4WD mode (Active Drive Lock) on the "Trailhawk" model, but it's still a lifted Dodge Dart rather than an actual truck.

There isn't really a hard line to draw anymore. You used to be able to say ladder frame only, but plenty of proper SUVs have gone at least partially unibody and some have been since day one. All proper trucks have longitudinal engines but not all longitudinal SUVs are proper trucks. True 4WD or AWD with a locking center diff is also a strong sign, but not a guarantee. Some vehicles you'd never expect are actually properly good off-road (first-gen Porsche Cayenne for example) if equipped with a reasonable wheel/tire combination and driven by someone who isn't afraid to get dirty.
That's why I just go with "Does it work off road?" as the metric.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005

Waltzing Along posted:

You mean next season?

Someone mentioned talk of an in-between "season" special. Which I hope happens.

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh
I'm guessing that was a gasser Mercedes.

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

trouser chili posted:

I'm guessing that was a gasser Mercedes.

Yeah they mentioned it's gas in the X-ray but also, I mean obviously. If an OM61x is dying cause you got it wet, it's not going to run again today (ok it might, but on 3 or 4 cylinders).

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


So apparently new Top Gear episode is out. I can't see it yet on my (legit) services. Is it worth a watch?

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Humphreys posted:

So apparently new Top Gear episode is out. I can't see it yet on my (legit) services. Is it worth a watch?

AFAIK, it doesn't broadcast on BBC2 until tomorrow.

Toe Rag
Aug 29, 2005

It looks like it doesn't come out until tomorrow. It's not even posted on iTunes, which I thought would have an option to buy the "season pass" before the show actually started. Is there somewhere else you can watch it?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Toe Rag posted:

It looks like it doesn't come out until tomorrow. It's not even posted on iTunes, which I thought would have an option to buy the "season pass" before the show actually started. Is there somewhere else you can watch it?

Well that would explain why I can't see it. The Top Gear FB page made me think it was out already haha.

DiggityDoink
Dec 9, 2007
I wanna go chain car racing, that looks fun as hell. Harris getting slung around was hilarious.

Anarchist Mae
Nov 5, 2009

by Reene
Lipstick Apathy
"Hey buddy! Lets smash some stuff!" :v:

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?
I nearly fell asleep during that Top Gear episode. Also Chris Harris' hair has an island at the front.

nmfree
Aug 15, 2001

The Greater Goon: Breaking Hearts and Chains since 2006
"...you're an rear end in a top hat."

This week's Top Gear was pretty good.

DiggityDoink
Dec 9, 2007

nmfree posted:

"...you're an rear end in a top hat."

This week's Top Gear was pretty good.

I dunno, I lost interest in the episode like a 1/4 of the way through. These 3 guys don't have nearly the charm the original 3 did and you can tell they're acting the whole time and there are no improv moments.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
That episode was worse than most of last season's. I liked thinking about the same episode and how it would be done by James, Jeremy and Richard. I bet they would have stayed on the dirt the whole time.

Mustache Ride
Sep 11, 2001



It would have been James and Jeremy, and Hammond would show up in a bigfoot costume behind them constantly, without them ever seeing him.

Like I expected Rory to do.

I want one of those electric bikes though.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

That episode was worse than most of last season's. I liked thinking about the same episode and how it would be done by James, Jeremy and Richard. I bet they would have stayed on the dirt the whole time.

Yeah, I haven't been impressed with either episode thus far. Way over-scripted and dull.

The show needs to find a new direction to go in. It seems creatively bankrupt and not very fun to watch.

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


Deteriorata posted:

The show needs to find a new direction to go in. It seems creatively bankrupt and not very fun to watch.

But enough about the BBC

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Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I also stopped watching somewhere in Harris' review of whatever car. I was a bit busy with homework, but I just couldn't get interested in it. Maybe I just don't care about supercars anymore or something.

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