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MechaCrash posted:I think the point he's trying to make is that Democrats keep trying to find a middle ground and compromise with people who hate them and have made obstructionism their #1 goal, kind of like the left half of Kreider's The Choice comic, except it's Rall so it comes out all lovely and horrible. e: Dog? Okay. 
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I am never going to get tired of drawings of Mitch McConnell
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Angepain posted:I am never going to get tired of drawings of Mitch McConnell He already looks like a turtle in reality
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I'm kinda annoyed at the Gorsuch cartoons on both sides. Neither Democrats nor Republicans are doing something shocking or unreasonable given their positions. Neither filibustering Gorsuch nor going nuclear is killing the senate, or killing justice, or whatever the gently caress the cartoonists are drawing it as. Like, Gorsuch is going to be bad for our country but going nuclear to force him in isn't loving mounting justice's head over your hearth.
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Oh, gently caress off.  MechaCrash posted:I think the point he's trying to make is that Democrats keep trying to find a middle ground and compromise with people who hate them and have made obstructionism their #1 goal, kind of like the left half of Kreider's The Choice comic, except it's Rall so it comes out all lovely and horrible. His point is that Democrats could filibuster and get shut down or not filibuster and lose anyway, which is the only kind of false stand he believes they're willing to take. And I have a hard time disagreeing, although trying to pin it on Warren is pretty rich.
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Angepain posted:I am never going to get tired of drawings of Mitch McConnell We were seriously missing political cartoons of googily-eyed assholes ever since Jesse Helms kicked the bucket. 
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Apr 6, 2017 21:02
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D.N. Nation posted:We were seriously missing political cartoons of googily-eyed assholes ever since Jesse Helms kicked the bucket. If it wasn't labeled Helms, I would have thought it was McConnell
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Trump is leading the charge of the continued witch hunt against Hillary. Hillary refused to back down so others have to carry her to safety as she deletes spam mail like a responsible human. A yakety-sax comic.
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Very thoughtful of Lester to label the guys holding the camera and microphone as "media." I never would've figured it out on my own.
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 Telegraph:  Jeremy Corbyn faces mutiny within Labour as Ken Livingstone escapes expulsion over Hitler comments Independent:  China's President Xi Jinping arrives in Florida for Trump talks Times: 
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cheetah7071 posted:I'm kinda annoyed at the Gorsuch cartoons on both sides. Neither Democrats nor Republicans are doing something shocking or unreasonable given their positions. Neither filibustering Gorsuch nor going nuclear is killing the senate, or killing justice, or whatever the gently caress the cartoonists are drawing it as.
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HootTheOwl posted:I think when you factor in Garland, what the republicans did here is an existential threat to America. The cartoon I quoted but with the newspaper reading "Mitch blocks Garland" would be a much better cartoon, I agree
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Iron Crowned posted:If it wasn't labeled Helms, I would have thought it was McConnell   Jesse was in his early 20s when Mitch was born. I'm just saying.
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D.N. Nation posted:
What does that matter? Green sea turtles don't reach sexual maturity until 50.
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Improbable Lobster posted:He already looks like a turtle in reality I thought his head looks more like a scrotum, honestly.
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MechaCrash posted:I think the point he's trying to make is that Democrats keep trying to find a middle ground and compromise with people who hate them and have made obstructionism their #1 goal, kind of like the left half of Kreider's The Choice comic, except it's Rall so it comes out all lovely and horrible. Right, they never filibustered any of the GOP supreme court nominations while Obama was president. What an oversight. Also, lemme guess, the obstruction over the last 3 months doesn't count?
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Regalingualius posted:I thought his head looks more like a scrotum, honestly. If your scrotum looks like that, you should probably consult a physician.
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Lord Hydronium posted:Hey, Mr. Fish at least had that one good "motherfucker" cartoon, which is one more good one than Rall.
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Come on! At least one international comic should portray Putin as a gay clown. http://time.com/4728422/russia-putin-clown-lbtq-court/ E: This is the image. Looks more like a mime to me. 
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Was it Mr. Fish that had the guy loving the guillotined head of a child or whatever? That was a good one too.
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My just showed my six year old this picture and asked him "what does this man look like to you?" "He looks like a turtle in a suit. Is he sick?" Yes. Good. Nailed it.
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Lodin posted:Come on! At least one international comic should portray Putin as a gay clown. vlad gay. so what?
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Lodin posted:Come on! At least one international comic should portray Putin as a gay clown.
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Pants Donkey posted:"Haha this politician is actually gay!" is a childish line of attack that doesn't really help gay people. I disagree, it helps us figure out who not to trust.
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Lord Hydronium posted:So does being a soulless conservative Republican make you look like this, or is it the other way around? They're basically all related.
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cheetah7071 posted:The cartoon I quoted but with the newspaper reading "Mitch blocks Garland" would be a much better cartoon, I agree Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought you were attacking both sides for making mountains out of molehills which I countered with "Yes but the democratic molehill is built upon an actual mountain."
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HootTheOwl posted:Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought you were attacking both sides for making mountains out of molehills which I countered with "Yes but the democratic molehill is built upon an actual mountain." The cartoons have been presenting it as "going nuclear is inherently an unacceptable breech of protocol" when in reality it's an incremental expansion of Harry Reid's nukes, and the elimination of the filibuster altogether would be a de facto reversion to earlier times when the filibuster was used much more sparingly. It feels disingenuous to talk about the filibuster as an inherent good just because our side is the one using it right now--the exact same people were almost certainly lamenting it back in 2006 and 2007. That's why I think cartoons presenting the whole empty seat debacle as an unacceptable power grab by Republicans are fine, but ones that zero in on McConnel nuking are bad cartoons.
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cheetah7071 posted:The cartoons have been presenting it as "going nuclear is inherently an unacceptable breech of protocol" when in reality it's an incremental expansion of Harry Reid's nukes, and the elimination of the filibuster altogether would be a de facto reversion to earlier times when the filibuster was used much more sparingly. It feels disingenuous to talk about the filibuster as an inherent good just because our side is the one using it right now--the exact same people were almost certainly lamenting it back in 2006 and 2007. The nuking is bad because it eliminates any pretense of bipartisan cooperation in the Supreme Court
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Improbable Lobster posted:The nuking is bad because it eliminates any pretense of bipartisan cooperation in the Supreme Court If we had voters that held their congresspeople accountable, and district lines that let them do so, I'd kinda be okay with that.
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Improbable Lobster posted:The nuking is bad because it eliminates any pretense of bipartisan cooperation in the Supreme Court It was already dead
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Easy Salmon Recipe posted:If we had voters that held their congresspeople accountable, and district lines that let them do so, I'd kinda be okay with that. District lines for the Senate are state borders and those are very hard to change.
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cheetah7071 posted:It was already dead That's why I said pretense.
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Improbable Lobster posted:That's why I said pretense. If it's just killing the pretense of something long dead, then I stand by what I said.
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duz posted:District lines for the Senate are state borders and those are very hard to change. I was talking about congress in general. First still applies to the senate.
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cheetah7071 posted:Neither filibustering Gorsuch nor going nuclear is killing the senate,
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:I think you misunderstand the antimajoritarian role of the Senate in our system. That must be why the filibuster is in the constitution, rather than being something developed accidentally and then kept around because of tradition
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Same thing with direct election of senators, right? Direct election of senators IS in the constitution, it's the seventeenth amendment. Anyways, my point is that the actual filibuster and nuclear option on Gorsuch is a relatively minor part of the supreme court vacancy drama that was almost fore-ordained once Garland was sidelined and Trump was elected. In another context, that same nuclear option could be used for good rather than for theft--as when Harry Reid went nuclear. Cartoons depicting the nuclear option as inherently bad on its face (rather than just another bit of political drama in a bad thing that happened a while ago) thus strike me as bad cartoons. I stand by not condemning the nuclear option in this case (while definitely condemning the disgraceful way Garland was treated) because it would be intellectually dishonest to do that while applauding Reid going nuclear on lower seats.
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