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Squizzle posted:its so he cant overrule the impeachment authority of the senate so anything that he's impeached over and convicted on cant be pardoned
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Mariana Horchata posted:have u ever had intercourse with a evangelical xtian type in deep denial of themselves being gay af?? im guessing thats weird and something u would want to avoid at all costs...tho im sure the possibility is real keep going
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Can you pardon before something happened? Or do you need to be convicted first. Asking for my best friemd, lets call him Eric frump
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six months in and he wants to fire the ag and pardon himself
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triple sulk posted:speedrun lookin good did not expect them to glitch over an invisible barrier w/a new york times interview that was pretty dope
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Thatim posted:Can you pardon before something happened? Or do you need to be convicted first. :cross dimensional dormamu thunk face:
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euphronius posted:six months in and he wants to fire the ag and pardon himself I'm happy that he decided to hate Racist Keebler Elf so quickly.
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Thatim posted:Can you pardon before something happened? Or do you need to be convicted first. the prez impeachment power is almost unchecked and can be used more or less preëmptively ford didnt wait for nixon to get charged
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don't doxx my spirit animal
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it's hard enough to deal with tirdfuzzes death as it is, but then to find out he died by autoerotic asphyxiation...woah, that really threw me gonna miss that chimp avatar
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euphronius posted:six months in and he wants to fire the ag and pardon himself owns
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Wouldn't rosentein be ag if he fired the elf
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and nixons pardon covered literally any (federal) crime at all he mightve committed as potus w/o exception
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https://twitter.com/ashleyrparker/status/888208243075547137 Lol
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you can check out federalist 74 for more on the pardon where Hamilton makes it clear that the president can even pardon treason if he wants
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euphronius posted:six months in and he wants to fire the ag and pardon himself lol this does really own but does the constitution explicitly cover conviction? like, the president can't pardon impeachment, but could you wiggle out a space and say that convictions could be pardoned?
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euphronius posted:Wouldn't rosentein be ag if he fired the elf yes, but racist kebbler can't fire mueller so it would be an empty gesture
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Mariana Horchata posted:idk where the Ark ENcounter is located but im gonna go out on a limb here and guess Branson, Missouri?? ooh sorry no. the correct answer was *checks backyard* kentucky
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euphronius posted:Wouldn't rosentein be ag if he fired the elf he could fire rosenstein or try to speed nominate a crony to replace jbo
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federalist papers eh 
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Mariana Horchata posted:have u ever had intercourse with a evangelical xtian type in deep denial of themselves being gay af?? im guessing thats weird and something u would want to avoid at all costs...tho im sure the possibility is real Mormon guys are great lays, just leave before the crying starts.
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Thatim posted:Can you pardon before something happened? Or do you need to be convicted first. No one really knows. The only time it happened was under Ford. But in that case, he was in charge of the executive and the DOJ so he didn't have to prosecute Nixon if he didn't want to. Ford pardoned him so it wouldn't be a cloud hanging over the country for the next 10 elections. But as with most things that exist in the Constitution, it would need to be tested by a court case.
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JosefStalinator posted:lol this does really own the courts havent to my knowledge ever been asked if potus can prepardon himself then get impeached then avoid consequence other than removal from office or if congress could legislate wrt to such a loophole
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JosefStalinator posted:lol this does really own impeachment and removal is a political act and a check on the president . it exists outside of the pardon power the pardon power is an ancient royal prerogative . impeachment is "new" though high crimes and misdemeanors is a well defined standard in English law
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Squizzle posted:the courts havent to my knowledge ever been asked if potus can prepardon himself then get impeached then avoid consequence other than removal from office he can't
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i found the cumshitter of ancient rome
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we prob gonna get 1 or 2 or 20 landmark decisions about how govt works out of this admin
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I mean he's not wrong but
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Squizzle posted:we prob gonna get 1 or 2 or 20 landmark decisions about how govt works out of this admin all of them bad
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Squizzle posted:we prob gonna get 1 or 2 or 20 landmark decisions about how govt works out of this admin just the one: it doesn't
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Squizzle posted:we prob gonna get 1 or 2 or 20 landmark decisions about how govt works out of this admin it's not even justiciable congress will impeach and remove him. if he refuses to go then it's civil war
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Joementum posted:you can check out federalist 74 for more on the pardon where Hamilton makes it clear that the president can even pardon treason if he wants the federalist papers own because we're taught in school that they were a high point of democracy and american political philosophy and then you read them and all they are are hamilton and madison talking about how awesome the constitution is because the president can do whatever he wants and its impossible for the people to actually take control away from the rich
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Jazerus posted:i found the cumshitter of ancient rome that translation elides the difference between fellatio and irrumatio
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Turdfuzz posted:all of them bad I just want you to know, that I was going to make a joke about you being dead, but then I didn't.
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JosefStalinator posted:so anything that he's impeached over and convicted on cant be pardoned not convicted . removed it's impeach and remove from office. that's all.
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Squizzle posted:the courts havent to my knowledge ever been asked if potus can prepardon himself then get impeached then avoid consequence other than removal from office lolling at the idea of a preemptive Trump pardon of himself "just in case"
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euphronius posted:congress will impeach and remove him woah slow your roll there
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euphronius posted:it's not even justiciable but can he pardon himself so that he cant be criminally prosecuted after hes removed from office
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Chokes McGee posted:I just want you to know, that I was going to make a joke about you being dead, but then I didn't. well the jokes on u cuz idk anything!!
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Squizzle posted:but can he pardon himself so that he cant be criminally prosecuted after hes removed from office yes for federal crimes
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