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Wouldn't businesses benefit from universal health care since they wouldn't have to spend so much on providing health insurance?
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 03:35 |
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Eponymouse posted:Wouldn't businesses benefit from universal health care since they wouldn't have to spend so much on providing health insurance? That and even health insurance companies would eventually benefit from being to dump off the risky patients on the public system while spending their time charging high premiums to "cover" optional stuff that they make hard to actually get covered/getting kickbacks from fancier private only medical facilities that exist to drain the wallets of the rich.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 03:43 |
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Holding a vise-grip on a person's actual physical wellbeing by being their healthcare provider and having a market which penalizes you enormously for a period of discontinued coverage means that doing insurance the Bad Old Way is another coercive influence that a business can hold on its employees. For real: The actual sustained victory in the ACA is forbidding healthcare denial based on preexisting conditions. That is the part of the law which makes it more likely that a more complete, single-payer solution can be enacted down the line, because it changes where the monied influences stand.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 03:53 |
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Saw this on someone's desk while I was at work. Uuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh. Star Man fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Nov 14, 2013 |
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Star Man posted:Saw this on someone's desk while I was at work. Uuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh. Uh, where do you work? I'm sure that violates some sort of workplace policy.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 04:04 |
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Mitchicon posted:Uh, where do you work? I'm sure that violates some sort of workplace policy. I'm a lazy rear end Millenial college-drop out that works for a cleaning company. Where I clean is a little place called Lockheed Martin Space Systems Center. Though you'll see cubicles in office suites here with all kinds of Republican poo poo all over and the one next to it with hippy dippy liberal paraphernalia. This kind of thing just stuck out.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 04:11 |
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Mitchicon posted:Uh, where do you work? I'm sure that violates some sort of workplace policy. How would it violate workplace policy?
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 04:41 |
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If you had an accidental injury of some sort in the bathroom, the insurance wouldn't cover it because you were using unapproved equipment.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 05:17 |
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Star Man posted:Saw this on someone's desk while I was at work. Uuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh. the image broke
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 05:18 |
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Miltank posted:the image broke Fixed it. I made that post from my phone and sometimes I end up deleting things that I shouldn't.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 07:53 |
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Miltank posted:the image broke Toilet paper with on it
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 07:53 |
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Obame Toilet Paper Ten bucks a roll.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 08:06 |
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HootTheOwl posted:This would be more valid if the wars weren't over ten years long. Well there's the problem with the demographics not changing. The surge was four years before the statistics. That means even if they haven't changed, the birth years did. Somebody who was 23 in 2007 was still born at the end of Gen X (1965-1984).
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 09:14 |
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I know generations are pretty much arbitrarily defined, but I thought the cut-off for Gen X was 82? Whatever the case, Gen X bore the brunt of Iraq and Afghanistan. But hey, a growing window of Millennials got maimed and killed for nothing, too!
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 09:23 |
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I don't think there's a standard. Different people that write papers on generations recognize different cut-offs.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 09:27 |
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Even if Gen Y begins at '84, by the time the surge started the majority of low-ranking enlisted personnel must have been Millennials, along with the youngest officers. Hear that, boomers? We can die in unnecessary wars of choice, too.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 09:35 |
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The Joint Center for Housing Studies at Harvard uses 1965-1984 because it lines up with certain statistical age groups to make analysis easier, but yeah, it's kind of blurry in reality. And yeah, Millenials have definitely born some of the cost of these wars. The problem with them lasting ten years, like Hoot said.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 10:24 |
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On the subject of Millenials, what is with the conservative obsession to demean and insult that generation? I keep remembering some right wing blogger who when writing a rant against something or other mocked Millenials for worrying about the government spying on their "awkward boudoir fumblings" as if previous generations had some refined sophisticated method of sexing each other.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 11:06 |
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pentyne posted:On the subject of Millenials, what is with the conservative obsession to demean and insult that generation? I keep remembering some right wing blogger who when writing a rant against something or other mocked Millenials for worrying about the government spying on their "awkward boudoir fumblings" as if previous generations had some refined sophisticated method of sexing each other. They're young. That's about it.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 11:59 |
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pentyne posted:On the subject of Millenials, what is with the conservative obsession to demean and insult that generation? I keep remembering some right wing blogger who when writing a rant against something or other mocked Millenials for worrying about the government spying on their "awkward boudoir fumblings" as if previous generations had some refined sophisticated method of sexing each other. Basically the last few decades of economic nihilism is very, very badly screwing over the younger generation, so for the people who carried out that nihilism, it's very important to victim blame early and often.
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Typical Pubbie posted:I know generations are pretty much arbitrarily defined, but I thought the cut-off for Gen X was 82? Whatever the case, Gen X bore the brunt of Iraq and Afghanistan. But hey, a growing window of Millennials got maimed and killed for nothing, too! Shared sacrifice? Edit: The Right's hatred of Millenials is a combination of "whippersnappers" bigotry and an effort to define the younger generations as "our kids and grandkids" or "their kids and grandkids". While they have a general dislike for younger generations (even their own grandkids), they really REALLY hate young kids who aren't theirs. This is why disowning is a popular fundamentalist punishment. anonumos fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Nov 14, 2013 |
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pentyne posted:On the subject of Millenials, what is with the conservative obsession to demean and insult that generation? I keep remembering some right wing blogger who when writing a rant against something or other mocked Millenials for worrying about the government spying on their "awkward boudoir fumblings" as if previous generations had some refined sophisticated method of sexing each other. That guy wasn't even an also-ran, in the words of Jane Fonda. He's just another asswipe trying to follow the Rush Limbaugh formula for success. They're like cockroaches.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 14:28 |
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Star Man posted:I'm a lazy rear end Millenial college-drop out that works for a cleaning company. Where I clean is a little place called Lockheed Martin Space Systems Center. So they poo poo on the guy who pays their bills?
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 14:49 |
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Star Man posted:Saw this on someone's desk while I was at work. Uuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh. Wipe your rear end with it when he is out then put it back on the desk. I guarantee he will not bring it in again.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 15:20 |
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Calico Heart posted:Wipe your rear end with it when he is out then put it back on the desk. I guarantee he will not bring it in again. anonumos fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Nov 14, 2013 |
# ? Nov 14, 2013 16:05 |
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These things are also bad.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 16:15 |
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pentyne posted:On the subject of Millenials, what is with the conservative obsession to demean and insult that generation? I keep remembering some right wing blogger who when writing a rant against something or other mocked Millenials for worrying about the government spying on their "awkward boudoir fumblings" as if previous generations had some refined sophisticated method of sexing each other.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 16:16 |
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Make one of a really obscure president.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 16:35 |
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Hr wants Obama inside of his rear end. That sounds gay.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 16:40 |
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Mitchicon posted:Make one of a really obscure president. Wipe your rear end with Rutherford B. Hayes or possibly James Garfield!
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 16:45 |
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Walter posted:Wipe your rear end with Rutherford B. Hayes or possibly James Garfield! I would no-joke buy a roll if they had James Buchanan.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 16:50 |
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pentyne posted:On the subject of Millenials, what is with the conservative obsession to demean and insult that generation? I keep remembering some right wing blogger who when writing a rant against something or other mocked Millenials for worrying about the government spying on their "awkward boudoir fumblings" as if previous generations had some refined sophisticated method of sexing each other.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 16:57 |
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Star Man posted:I'm a lazy rear end Millenial college-drop out that works for a cleaning company. Where I clean is a little place called Lockheed Martin Space Systems Center. Place I used to work had honest to God shooting targets. Not even making this up. Jacksonville, Florida before anyone asks.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 16:59 |
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pentyne posted:On the subject of Millenials, what is with the conservative obsession to demean and insult that generation? Old, stubborn, out of touch white guys complaining about these lazy kids and their music really isn't anything unexpected or out of character.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 17:07 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Place I used to work had honest to God shooting targets. Not even making this up. Oh, Florida.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 17:54 |
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There's some pretty serious crazy on crazy infighting going on right now between right-wing pseudo historian David Barton and the Southern Baptist Convention. This is pretty notable because both Barton and the SBC are beloved by evangelicals and tea partiers, this could be a serious blow to Barton in a way that being a fraud historian who's book was pulled was not. How did this happen? Barton was dumb enough to attack the troops, on Veteran's Day . http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/barton-copeland-bible-says-soldiers-should-not-suffer-guilt-or-ptsd quote:On the Veteran's Day broadcast of the "Believer's Voice of Victory" program, Kenneth Copeland and David Barton cited a passage from the Book of Number to assert that soldiers should never suffer any guilt or PTSD after returning from battle because they are "esteemed and venerated" by God. Here's the response from the SBC. Just gonna quote the whole thing because it's hilarious. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/southern-baptist-official-calls-david-bartons-propaganda-satanic quote:"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes." Proverbs gives us two approaches and expects us to use wisdom in knowing when they should be applied.
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BiggerBoat posted:Place I used to work had honest to God shooting targets. Not even making this up. I read this as God shooting targets. Makes me want to make and sell Jesus shooting targets just to see the reaction. Obviously the stigmata would be worth the highest points.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 18:09 |
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Imagine waking up one day and finding out that the Southern Baptist Convention is more progressive than you on an issue.
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 18:13 |
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The Ape of Naples posted:I read this as God shooting targets. Poor wording on my part. It looked something like this: http://i.huffpost.com/gen/533531/thumbs/s-OBAMA-PELOSI-PALIN-SHOOTING-TARGET-large.jpg
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ReindeerF posted:Imagine waking up one day and finding out that the Southern Baptist Convention is more progressive than you on an issue. "Bunch of islamo-fascist, Obama loving turncoats! The cherry picked bible verse is more than enough to heal the soldiers with PTSD. SUPPORT ARE TROOPS!" Can you quote something some says before they say it?
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# ? Nov 14, 2013 18:42 |