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PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
when's ur test bloody?

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PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
lol is this thread stickied?

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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yes :3:

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

my test is next wednesday :supaburn:

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008
jonny got me into ham a year or so ago and now that i have free time im gonna get my test done and throw a giant antenner in my yard. i mite pick up an sdr or something too.

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008
might get a bladeRF. some guy managed to broadcast fully atsc compliant signals with it

https://nuand.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3503

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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i've got a hackrf on indefinite loan from a buddy and they are fun as HELL

i havent gotten a killer app set up for it yet but we may be able to snoop on some neat poo poo in denver

like ive mentioned before, colorado has the biggest amateur microwave scene in the country b/c mountains, so i'm looking forward to all that

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008
im extremley jeals. i might end up picking one of those up because i have spare cash dollers laying around. i live pretty drat close to colorado so once i get my licence u might hear me burp and fart over the shortwaves.

theres a really neat pirate radio setup for sale on CL right now. might be worth the hour drive to scoop some of that gear up.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Korean Boomhauer posted:

might get a bladeRF. some guy managed to broadcast fully atsc compliant signals with it

https://nuand.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3503



i wonder if ATSC has any sort of capture effect and whether you'd be able to do (small-scale) broadcast hijacks with an amp and a directional antenna

Jose Pointero
Feb 16, 2004

We're not just doing this for money. We're doing it for a SHITLOAD of money!

seriously, how the hell did i not notice there's a radio thread in the 'pos until now?

here, have 4 minutes of a belligerent ranting crazy person on 14.313 "you are a liar of liars":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV6vMYtUppE

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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atomicthumbs posted:

i wonder if ATSC has any sort of capture effect and whether you'd be able to do (small-scale) broadcast hijacks with an amp and a directional antenna

i suspect they just have a microwave relay that rebroadcasts the link as-is in atsc so barring any sort of security thing, you could probably go on a hilltop near the transmitter antenna and overpower the studio link

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008

Jonny 290 posted:

i suspect they just have a microwave relay that rebroadcasts the link as-is in atsc so barring any sort of security thing, you could probably go on a hilltop near the transmitter antenna and overpower the studio link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Television_broadcast_interruption

"At that time, the Hannington UHF television transmitter was unusual in being one of the few transmitters which rebroadcast an off-air signal received from another transmitter (Southern Television's Rowridge transmitter on the Isle of Wight), rather than being fed directly by a landline. As a consequence it was open to this kind of signal intrusion, as even a relatively low-powered transmission very close to the receiver could overwhelm its reception of the intended signal, resulting in the unauthorized transmission being amplified and rebroadcast across a far wider area."

this article is fulla stuff like that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_signal_intrusion

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008

"On September 18, 2012, the Disney Channel once again was interrupted on the Dish Network, replacing 6 minutes of Lilo & Stitch with a portion of a hardcore pornographic movie. The incident was reported to Dish Network.[26]"

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002

Korean Boomhauer posted:

"On September 18, 2012, the Disney Channel once again was interrupted on the Dish Network, replacing 6 minutes of Lilo & Stitch with a portion of a hardcore pornographic movie. The incident was reported to Dish Network.[26]"

lol

longview
Dec 25, 2006

heh.

Korean Boomhauer posted:

might get a bladeRF. some guy managed to broadcast fully atsc compliant signals with it

https://nuand.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3503



i have one and i had to install ubuntu to do anything with it

usb 3.0 support on windows is still experimental at best, and the gnuradio stuff is all on linux

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

and gnuradio is poopy

Jimmy Carter
Nov 3, 2005

THIS MOTHERDUCKER
FLIES IN STYLE

Bloody posted:

use an antenna range :getin:



RF testing rooms are rad as hell and being told to leave your phone outside or you'll break things is some fun poo poo

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

c studying s: general is full of so much bullshit memorization i was not anticipating this

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

c radio s: skipped the exam tonight on account of i didnt wanna go and its not like i own any radios and its not like im about to buy or build any radios :rip: radios

PuTTY riot
Nov 16, 2002
bloody no

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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and here i was lookin to get rid of an alinco 2 meter rig and a diamond f22a

:(

go take the test noob

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer
im gonna take technician friday night but really only so I can use stuff my 600mw video transmitter and some stuff that works on ham bands

also a girl overheard me at the bar last week and asked me what my ham call sign was.

moron izzard fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jul 24, 2014

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer
is there really 425 unique questions in the ham technician exam or is there like a quarter of that with repeats.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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A Yolo Wizard posted:

is there really 425 unique questions in the ham technician exam or is there like a quarter of that with repeats.

a lot of them are like mini pools, like they have 8 diff multiple choice questions all dealing with calculating the impedance of a capacitor at a certain frequency, but the numbers are diff for each one

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast
...and a lot of them you just have to know through study, because they are sorta trick questions?

example:

T1A05 (A) [97.1 (e)]
Which of the following is a purpose of the Amateur Radio Service rules and regulations as defined by the FCC?
A. Enhancing international goodwill
B. Providing inexpensive communication for local emergency organizations
C. Training of operators in military radio operating procedures
D. All of these choices are correct
~~

So, answer is A. Would you have got that if you didn't know beforehand?

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Sniep posted:

...and a lot of them you just have to know through study, because they are sorta trick questions?

example:

T1A05 (A) [97.1 (e)]
Which of the following is a purpose of the Amateur Radio Service rules and regulations as defined by the FCC?
A. Enhancing international goodwill
B. Providing inexpensive communication for local emergency organizations
C. Training of operators in military radio operating procedures
D. All of these choices are correct
~~

So, answer is A. Would you have got that if you didn't know beforehand?

probably because it's def not C because lol "military radio operating procedures" and not B because lol ham radio and "inexpensive".

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

spankmeister posted:

probably because it's def not C because lol "military radio operating procedures" and not B because lol ham radio and "inexpensive".

but both of those options are frequently held strong feelings of ham operators

emergency coordination is big for a lot of people who HEY ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP>>?

and either ex-military or wishes-were lots of ham take military radio comms into the hobby

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast
it's really easy for an eager ham student to pick D thinking "Yes! I'll help out every way ever amen!"

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Sniep posted:

but both of those options are frequently held strong feelings of ham operators

emergency coordination is big for a lot of people who HEY ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP>>?

and either ex-military or wishes-were lots of ham take military radio comms into the hobby

Well yeah I know but the military thing isn't a goal, radio operations is. And emergency comms may be a thing, but it's not a goal for it to be inexpensive.

the two keywords "military" and "inexpensive" is what disqualifies those answers is what I'm saying

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

spankmeister posted:

Well yeah I know but the military thing isn't a goal, radio operations is. And emergency comms may be a thing, but it's not a goal for it to be inexpensive.

the two keywords "military" and "inexpensive" is what disqualifies those answers is what I'm saying

the point is just study the question pools on cards

here's a few more questions, and i've removed the answers in the parens until after the post, feel free to test yourself. this is from the tech pool. have a 6 question mini test. most of the questions on the test are easy as hell just saying there are gotcha ones in there or wtf? ones too.

T1B06 (?) [97.301(a)]
Which 23 cm frequency
A. 2315 MHz
B. 1296 MHz
C. 3390 MHz
D. 146.52 MHz
~~

T1C01 (?) [97.3(a)(11)(iii)]
Which type of call sign has a single letter in both its prefix and suffix?
A. Vanity
B. Sequential
C. Special event
D. In-memoriam
~~

T1F12 (?) [97.5(b)(2)]
How many persons are required to be members of a club for a club station license to be issued by the FCC?
A. At least 5
B. At least 4
C. A trustee and 2 officers
D. At least 2
~~

T5C04 (?)
What is the basic unit of inductance?
A. The coulomb
B. The farad
C. The henry
D. The ohm
~~

T6B11 (?)
What at are the three electrodes of a field effect transistor?
A. Emitter, base, and collector
B. Source, gate, and drain
C. Cathode, grid, and plate
D. Cathode, gate, and anode
~~

T6D08 (?)
Which of the following is used together with an inductor to make a tuned circuit?
A. Resistor
B. Zener diode
C. Potentiometer
D. Capacitor
~~

Answers: BCBCBD

I'm sure a lot of you would ace that but just saying, if you don't ace that, go thru the question pools and just read thru them.

Sniep fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Jul 24, 2014

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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voting we start the YOSPOS Ordained Society for Promotion Of Signals radio club

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Sniep posted:

the point is just study the question pools on cards

here's a few more questions, and i've removed the answers in the parens until after the post, feel free to test yourself. this is from the tech pool. have a 6 question mini test. most of the questions on the test are easy as hell just saying there are gotcha ones in there or wtf? ones too.

T1B06 (?) [97.301(a)]
Which 23 cm frequency
A. 2315 MHz
B. 1296 MHz
C. 3390 MHz
D. 146.52 MHz
~~

T1C01 (?) [97.3(a)(11)(iii)]
Which type of call sign has a single letter in both its prefix and suffix?
A. Vanity
B. Sequential
C. Special event
D. In-memoriam
~~

T1F12 (?) [97.5(b)(2)]
How many persons are required to be members of a club for a club station license to be issued by the FCC?
A. At least 5
B. At least 4
C. A trustee and 2 officers
D. At least 2
~~

T5C04 (?)
What is the basic unit of inductance?
A. The coulomb
B. The farad
C. The henry
D. The ohm
~~

T6B11 (?)
What at are the three electrodes of a field effect transistor?
A. Emitter, base, and collector
B. Source, gate, and drain
C. Cathode, grid, and plate
D. Cathode, gate, and anode
~~

T6D08 (?)
Which of the following is used together with an inductor to make a tuned circuit?
A. Resistor
B. Zener diode
C. Potentiometer
D. Capacitor
~~

Answers: BCBCBD

I'm sure a lot of you would ace that but just saying, if you don't ace that, go thru the question pools and just read thru them.
yeah fair enough

i got all of the technical ones right but not the other 2 b/c the regulations here are different so idk

moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer
i wonder if I can just tape my callsign to my vtx instead of somehow inserting it into the video transmission


edit: noone is ever going to care or find out but gently caress buying a different osd

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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A Yolo Wizard posted:

i wonder if I can just tape my callsign to my vtx instead of somehow inserting it into the video transmission


edit: noone is ever going to care or find out but gently caress buying a different osd

just for the 10 minute IDs? you don't have to ID in the mode you are transmitting in; hook an attiny to your transmitter's enable line and program it to send your callsign in CW. boom, compliant

longview
Dec 25, 2006

heh.
scored a NMT 450 (80s analog mobile phone) base station transmitter module, fairly easy to tune for 430 and comes with a huge heat sink and dual output drivers (my grandpa suggested they were only used one at a time due to heating.) swedish made. heeavy output filtering too, hopefully possible to re-tune without too much pain

i have the matching receiver already, now i can get my d-star stuff on 70cm and if i ever find a duplexer for 2 MHz splits it'll be full duplex!

also found a 8 MHz split 450 MHz duplexer

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Sniep posted:

the point is just study the question pools on cards

here's a few more questions, and i've removed the answers in the parens until after the post, feel free to test yourself. this is from the tech pool. have a 6 question mini test. most of the questions on the test are easy as hell just saying there are gotcha ones in there or wtf? ones too.

T1B06 (?) [97.301(a)]
Which 23 cm frequency
A. 2315 MHz
B. 1296 MHz
C. 3390 MHz
D. 146.52 MHz
~~

T1C01 (?) [97.3(a)(11)(iii)]
Which type of call sign has a single letter in both its prefix and suffix?
A. Vanity
B. Sequential
C. Special event
D. In-memoriam
~~

T1F12 (?) [97.5(b)(2)]
How many persons are required to be members of a club for a club station license to be issued by the FCC?
A. At least 5
B. At least 4
C. A trustee and 2 officers
D. At least 2
~~

T5C04 (?)
What is the basic unit of inductance?
A. The coulomb
B. The farad
C. The henry
D. The ohm
~~

T6B11 (?)
What at are the three electrodes of a field effect transistor?
A. Emitter, base, and collector
B. Source, gate, and drain
C. Cathode, grid, and plate
D. Cathode, gate, and anode
~~

T6D08 (?)
Which of the following is used together with an inductor to make a tuned circuit?
A. Resistor
B. Zener diode
C. Potentiometer
D. Capacitor
~~

Answers: BCBCBD

I'm sure a lot of you would ace that but just saying, if you don't ace that, go thru the question pools and just read thru them.

extra gently caress you to the "what frequency is <x> meters band" and im like 'oh okay well ill just use maths' and so i choose the maths answer but then its like "lol nope!!!" turns out these fucklords cant even do maths

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Bloody posted:

extra gently caress you to the "what frequency is <x> meters band" and im like 'oh okay well ill just use maths' and so i choose the maths answer but then its like "lol nope!!!" turns out these fucklords cant even do maths

huh? Answer B is a perfectly valid 23cm freq

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



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it helps a lot to learn the general idea behind the frequency allocations. like, extra test is super easy on the frequency stuff because in almost every case the correct answer is "the bottom 25 khz of the band"

(btw stay out of the extra portion if you don't do 40wpm by hand. they hate slow code and they hate computers)

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






I usually cheat it a bit by working back from a few known frequencies/wavelengths.

like i know 23 is 1300MHz ish, 70cm is 430 ish and 2m is 150 ish.

So if a freq is 300 MHz i know it's about 1 meter, or if it's 2,4 GHz it should be about idk 10 to 15 cm
conversely 4 meters should be 75 or so.

I work out a ballpark figure like that and then usually the answers are different enough that only one of them is in that ballpark

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moron izzard
Nov 17, 2006

Grimey Drawer

Jonny 290 posted:

just for the 10 minute IDs? you don't have to ID in the mode you are transmitting in; hook an attiny to your transmitter's enable line and program it to send your callsign in CW. boom, compliant

I have an audio line I don't use (who wants audio from the underside of a multirotor lol) would that be easier (id rather just make a new plug than dig into this transmitter)

moron izzard fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Jul 24, 2014

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