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Yanmar 4lh ste. Yeah, i run it full throttle quite a bit. The exaust upstream of the turbo just has a nice thin satin coat. I think the problem is the rust build up and the elbow. The mixing point is only about 8-10cm from the turbine wheel by design. $1000 every few years feels rather stiff for a poorly designed elbow but that's the boat life I guess
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It's just boat money, not real money.
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# ? Oct 24, 2019 17:35 |
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Thanks Neslepaks. Krogsrud replaced the turbo for my dad the last time about 6 years ago, so I'm not sure I'm keen to use them again. Charged new turbo price for a rebuild too. I think it was about 40K nok. I didn't do any mechanical work back then. They have done some other work I founds somewhat shoddy too. I might give Vestfold a call.
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# ? Oct 24, 2019 17:39 |
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I highly doubt the turbo is damaged, so long as you use it regularly, the rust is pretty soft. I'd just clean it out with a wire brush, and maybe think about spraying some oil into there when you winterize. Do the turbine blades have any wear where they're touching the housing? Barring that, maybe have the housing and elbow ceramic-coated on the inside? I've never heard of it, but maybe it'll help. sharkytm fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Hard to say how worn they are since they are completely flush with the housing. Can't see without taking the turbo apart. There are no bent or chipped blades though. The boat did work fine, so you might well be right that its all right. I'm not sure if there is anyone doing ceramic coating in a reasonable distance from me. I have seen some people welding in a stainless sleeve in the exhaust outlet. Might be worth looking into. Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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# ? Oct 24, 2019 21:16 |
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For some engines there's aftermarket exhaust elbows made of stainless steel - I know I've seen them for Volvo Pentas at least. Not sure if it's different for turbo engines though.
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# ? Oct 24, 2019 23:41 |
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Generally the hot side of the turbo is just held on with a V band and can be knocked off and cleaned out. I’d find out how much it would be to get that housing beaded and ceramic coated before replacing the whole turbo if it hasn’t damaged the turbine wheel and it doesn’t have excessive shaft play
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 00:53 |
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Ferremit posted:Generally the hot side of the turbo is just held on with a V band and can be knocked off and cleaned out. I’d find out how much it would be to get that housing beaded and ceramic coated before replacing the whole turbo if it hasn’t damaged the turbine wheel and it doesn’t have excessive shaft play Seriously. If the turbine is good and the seals/bearings are good, there's no reason to replace a turbo.
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# ? Oct 25, 2019 03:07 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvI9F5Zrbxs Probably the most nautical insanity I have seen in a while. Reminds me of chasing the little cruise ships around to jump their wake in my dad's old ex-coast guard hurricane, but even less safe.
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# ? Oct 26, 2019 06:21 |
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slurry_curry posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvI9F5Zrbxs That looks like so much fun!
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 16:10 |
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I’m not sure if it’s a factory recommendation, but we generally recommend customers replace their mixing elbows every five years on Yanmars. They just like to eat them up, they are impossible to inspect, and the alternative of it fails is worse (like your rusty, maybe soon to be dead turbo). That said, just clean the rust up and run the fucker hard. People nursing their diesels like grandma driving to church are responsible for more 2000-hour rebuilds than the guys who run them at WOT all day.
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 16:11 |
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slurry_curry posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvI9F5Zrbxs That looks amazingly fun
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# ? Oct 28, 2019 17:47 |
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Damnit they're not starting on it till January. Might as well own up then. This is what I've ordered: https://marex.no/boats/320-aft-cabin-cruiser/ Here's an old review from MBY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jrlbfSslfA My new luxurious life begins late April.
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# ? Nov 2, 2019 10:22 |
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Congrats dude. Thats a nice looking craft.
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# ? Nov 2, 2019 15:33 |
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Wow! That is beautiful. Congrats. You have to be chomping at the bit to get her.
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# ? Nov 3, 2019 13:31 |
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Neslepaks posted:Damnit they're not starting on it till January. Might as well own up then. This is what I've ordered: Oh, wow. That's a really well done boat. That's a lot of luxury in 32'.
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# ? Nov 4, 2019 10:01 |
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That looks more spacious in 32' than what I have in 41'... then again, narrow beam and low freeboard on my end. I chose this life.
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# ? Nov 4, 2019 12:21 |
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What engine option did you go for? Those Yanmar diesels are actually just marine versions of toyotas diesels- the 8LV series is based off the 4.5L 1VD-FTV in the 70 and 200 series landcruisers and their 6LP engines were based off the 4.2L 1HD-FTV engine
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# ? Nov 4, 2019 12:36 |
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Yep 8LV-370. Should be good for 28 flat out and >20 cruise. Not yet heard anything negative about these engines and they've been out for about a decade now I think? It's also quieter than the VPs.
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# ? Nov 4, 2019 12:49 |
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TheFluff posted:That looks more spacious in 32' than what I have in 41'... then again, narrow beam and low freeboard on my end. I chose this life. It's not exactly sleek and elegant like yours, no. It's all about family vacation comfort. Everything else comes second really.
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# ? Nov 4, 2019 13:09 |
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So me and dad did a small 700 mile roundtrip to buy another old old Solo inboard engine for his collection. Of course it lacked some parts and wouldn't start despite the ad and the seller on the phone describing it as "ready to drop in the boat". Still bought it. My dad was grumpy all the way home about it.
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# ? Nov 4, 2019 18:08 |
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is it a sleeve valve single?
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# ? Nov 4, 2019 22:32 |
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Regular two-stroke, made for starting on gasoline and then switching to kerosene but runs ok on just gasoline (since kerosene isn't as easy to come by anymore).
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# ? Nov 4, 2019 22:59 |
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dur yeah, i was doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to make it a four stroke which was very stupid! kind of cool. it's pretty easy to get kerosene where I live in the US, but i think it burns quite smoky.
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# ? Nov 4, 2019 23:29 |
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Neslepaks posted:Damnit they're not starting on it till January. Might as well own up then. This is what I've ordered:
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# ? Nov 5, 2019 01:07 |
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Visited the dealer today to hammer out the last details. Of course, sunk cost fallacy sets in and you order all the electronics stuff, because why not. e: Contender for worst financial decision in AI history? Neslepaks fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Nov 7, 2019 |
# ? Nov 7, 2019 00:16 |
The guy blowing the insurance settlement from losing his arm in a motorcycle crash on a stickshift lambo is probably the forever winner there but you're definitely in the top ten
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 16:11 |
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Nidhg00670000 posted:Regular two-stroke, made for starting on gasoline and then switching to kerosene but runs ok on just gasoline (since kerosene isn't as easy to come by anymore). Jet fuel is basically kerosene, but why you’d want to use that instead of gasoline...
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# ? Nov 7, 2019 17:38 |
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Also lamp oil is kerosene. Could it burn diesel, that’s not too different from kerosene?
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# ? Nov 10, 2019 21:19 |
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I really like that series of Scandi dudes refloating their fishing boat and I look forward to more fun videos from them. I've also been enjoying Acorn to Arabella this year. I'd also like to bring your attention to the following, non- Nautical related news AI Secret Santa 2019 Please come and join us for a rollercoaster ride of emotion that make Alaskan Crab Fishing look easy. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3903165&perpage=40&pagenumber=1#pti18
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# ? Nov 10, 2019 23:34 |
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I was considering getting a RIB as a starter boat for some river/estuary boating. Did some research, been reading this thread for the past year. Went to look at the cost of a second hand RIB. 5-7m length. €14000 Cheaper badly maintained ones with no engine that requires considerable work €5000-7000 Not sure what else I expected
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# ? Nov 11, 2019 16:43 |
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The Real Amethyst posted:I was considering getting a RIB as a starter boat for some river/estuary boating. RIBs hold their value very well, much better than straight FRP hulls. Here in New England, zodiacs are spendy, especially rigids.
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# ? Nov 11, 2019 22:46 |
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Mom and dad in our first boat, a Selco 18, late '70s. I went on vacation in that thing only weeks old.
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 17:30 |
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The Real Amethyst posted:I was considering getting a RIB as a starter boat for some river/estuary boating. 14000€ is more than what I paid for my 12.5m/41' sailboat I mean, sure, it's 40 years old and the original owner paid something like the equivalent of 80000€ in 2019 money for it new in 1979, but still. It's a huge boat in quite good shape and everything works. I know sailing isn't for everyone, but at least in Scandinavia you can get an amazing amount of sailboat for very little money. I've seen very well maintained IF-boats and other small but seaworthy sailboats go for like 2000€, sometimes with like 3-4000€ invested in them (new engine or new sails) like 5 years ago. Big marine engines are crazy expensive.
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 17:59 |
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One thing I've wondered with inflatable boats like that, is how long does the rubber/whatever polymer last? I know a lot of them have covers over the inflatable part for abrasion and UV protection, but does the rubber eventually degrade? If you have a RIB from the 80's, how likely is it to need new rubber even if it's been cared for well? Or average?
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# ? Nov 12, 2019 19:11 |
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Guy leaves his boat in too long. Now it's frozen in the St. Croix river for the winter. https://www.twincities.com/2019/11/15/sailboat-frozen-in-st-croix-river-may-stay-out-all-winter-owner-unable-to-free-it-friday/
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 04:39 |
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Houseboat goon needs this story.
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# ? Nov 17, 2019 04:44 |
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From the Raspberry Pi thread. It's nautical and there is certain degrees of insanity involved so I though of this thread.Hadlock posted:Mildly interesting. This guy lives on his boat and programs his raspberry pi to display charts and weather data, and also drive his boat in a straight line even in ocean waves. Reads like a character from a Neil Stephenson novel:
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# ? Dec 14, 2019 12:26 |
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You can also use a raspberry Pi to feed AIS data to MarineTraffic.com ...I think.
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....That's definitely some nautical insanity.
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