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Omerta posted:Both I guess I could sue the school that I got the PHD in history for being useless.
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Incitatus posted:I guess I could sue the school that I got the PHD in history for being useless. It's been tried already. I recommend a doctorate in homeopathic medicine instead.
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Incitatus posted:If I was a true glutton for punishment would I go for a PHD in History or go to Law School? But what of your career in investigative journalism for NFL players dicks?
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Petey posted:But what of your career in investigative journalism for NFL players dicks? Hey if someone would pay me for this, I'd be a working stiff for their company.
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Apr 23, 2011 17:59
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Incitatus posted:Hey if someone would pay me for this, I'd be a working stiff for their company. Seems like a hard job, but potentially deeply fulfilling.
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Apr 23, 2011 18:22
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Incitatus posted:If I was a true glutton for punishment would I go for a PHD in History or go to Law School? Try on a joint JD/PhD Econ for size
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Apr 23, 2011 18:29
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:No more overtime I wish I could've gotten some of that OT.
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Apr 23, 2011 18:43
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evilweasel posted:Vault 100, 30% higher 2L placement than last year, since it's 2Ls it's summer associate positions. Harvard does not need to lie about their job placement. Yeah, I know we're used to a high level of skepticism/criticism of official job numbers and all that jazz, but even at the bottom of the top (Northwestern) biglaw placements are substantially better than the year before. Maybe it's a blip or a temporary bump before the market crashes again, but even the bottom of the t14 seems to be ok.
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Apr 23, 2011 18:50
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Petey posted:Seems like a hard job, but potentially deeply fulfilling. Heh
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Any goons here currently attending Harvard? My property class uses Singer's book and I need some fodder for exam practice. I would really appreciate it if you could snag any old exams + answer keys for his class. If so you can contact me at csling AT ucdavis DOT edu
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Can any Columbia lawgoons comment on any first- or second-hand knowledge about the Lawyering in the Digital Age clinic? I applied and enrolled without really giving too much thought to it, and now that I've actually talked to some people about it, the clinic sounds disturbingly like a seminar on e-discovery (which is pretty much what I did full time prior to coming to law school).
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flog montresor posted:Can any Columbia lawgoons comment on any first- or second-hand knowledge about the Lawyering in the Digital Age clinic? I applied and enrolled without really giving too much thought to it, and now that I've actually talked to some people about it, the clinic sounds disturbingly like a seminar on e-discovery (which is pretty much what I did full time prior to coming to law school). The one person I spoke to who did this clinic (and I actually don't even remember who this was, crazily enough) told me that it involved very little actual "clinical" work and that for some of the students basically all they did was work on a website.
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flog montresor posted:Can any Columbia lawgoons comment on any first- or second-hand knowledge about the Lawyering in the Digital Age clinic? I applied and enrolled without really giving too much thought to it, and now that I've actually talked to some people about it, the clinic sounds disturbingly like a seminar on e-discovery (which is pretty much what I did full time prior to coming to law school). From what I've heard, basically only Stanford and the Berkman Center at HLS, and maybe the Information Society Project at Yale, are really focused on big gay internet law - everyone else is pretty much just piggybacking off the big two.
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The Warszawa posted:From what I've heard, basically only Stanford and the Berkman Center at HLS, and maybe the Information Society Project at Yale, are really focused on big gay internet law - everyone else is pretty much just piggybacking off the big two. Yeah, and honestly since Lessig left stanford and benkler left Yale berkman is where the game is at. My thesis adviser was a YLS grad and he said there was no contest for someone focused in gay bullshit.
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blar posted:Alright everyone I need some advice on whether to take the bar or not. I accepted a non-legal government job in the full-time competitive service in a self-funded agency that likely won't get cut. I plan on grinding it out for 10 years so my astronomical loans are forgiven in IBR. One major difference is that you get a bar admission date of 2011 as opposed to 2021. That just looks less weird. That said, take an easy bar and just use books rather than paying for barbri and don't stress about it. Also, it is much, much quicker to activate an inactive bar membership than to sign up for the bar in may and eventually pass in october or november. And there will be no "if I pass the bar," having a bar card rather than pending the bar is much better for employers. So I say take it, but don't overwork yourself passing it.
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Petey posted:Yeah, and honestly since Lessig left stanford and benkler left Yale berkman is where the game is at. My thesis adviser was a YLS grad and he said there was no contest for someone focused in gay bullshit. Addendum: no one gives a gently caress about Stanford. It's the Pierson v. Post of law schools - no one gives a gently caress about it and if you do, well, then the joke is on you.
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nm posted:Yes, take the bar. Even as poorly as law school preps you for the bar, it is better than 10 years later when you change your mind. Seconding. Which bar was it that had a ninety some odd percent pass rate? Take that one.
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BigHead posted:Seconding. Which bar was it that had a ninety some odd percent pass rate? Take that one. MA has that. There's also no CLE requirement. I'm techinically still a lawyer even though I've never practiced or done a CLE since I passed in 2009. All you have to do is pay your dues at the beginning of the year and you're qualified to handle peoples legal problems
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BigHead posted:Seconding. Which bar was it that had a ninety some odd percent pass rate? Take that one. The Minnesota bar is supposedly laughably easy. Hell, I'm a member of the bar and didn't even have to take a test.
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flog montresor posted:Can any Columbia lawgoons comment on any first- or second-hand knowledge about the Lawyering in the Digital Age clinic? I applied and enrolled without really giving too much thought to it, and now that I've actually talked to some people about it, the clinic sounds disturbingly like a seminar on e-discovery (which is pretty much what I did full time prior to coming to law school). I've heard that some people worked on creating stuff like searchable databases for nonprofits which is worthwhile but something that an IT person could do better than a law student. Overall, I heard that it's not terribly worthwhile but at least it's not incredibly time-consuming.
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quote:The Virginia Army National Guard is seeking motivated, patriotic attorneys to join its ranks. The positions are one weekend a month and two weeks during the summer with a potential for overseas deployment. No previous military experience is required. Great pay and benefits. Duty locations in Northern Virginia, Richmond and Hampton Roads. Lawyer and Law School Megathread #13: Started Out Solicitor, Ended Up Soldier.
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entris posted:Lawyer and Law School Megathread #13: Started Out Solicitor, Ended Up Soldier. This is not anywhere close to as bad as barista though.
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quote:Seconding. Which bar was it that had a ninety some odd percent pass rate? Take that one. New Mexico is two days long, has something like a 94% pass rate, and they got their results back a full month earlier than we did in Texas. I've also heard Wisconsin's is really easy.
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blar posted:Alright everyone I need some advice on whether to take the bar or not. I accepted a non-legal government job in the full-time competitive service in a self-funded agency that likely won't get cut. I plan on grinding it out for 10 years so my astronomical loans are forgiven in IBR. Yes, take the bar. No, do not just take any random bar. You really don't want to be forced into paying (a lot of) money for CLEs and bar dues when you don't have to. Find a state you could conceivably be interested in whose bar admission standards are lenient a la MA's, and then take that bar instead of your own. MEET ME BY DUCKS posted:The context of the 30% increase is that 2L summer jobs in the top 100 firms went from about 9000 positions in 2007 to about 3000 in 2010. HLS' OCS purported to observed a 30% increase, so 3900 positions, for 2011. Just FYI this translates as "the legal market was fully killed off in 2010 and is now a zombie scouring the United States for brains".
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Cortina posted:New Mexico is two days long, has something like a 94% pass rate, and they got their results back a full month earlier than we did in Texas. A lot of Texas lawyers also practice in New Mexico; ABSURDLY awesome plaintiff-friendly laws.
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entris posted:Lawyer and Law School Megathread #13: Started Out Solicitor, Ended Up Charged With Soliciting.
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sigmachiev posted:This is not anywhere close to as bad as barista though. Baristas don't get sent overseas to die, though.
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I knew it was only a matter of time before someone made that argument.
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Alaemon posted:Lawyer and Law School Megathread #13: Started Out Solicitor, Ended Up Charged With Soliciting. Lawyer and Law School Megathread #13: Started Out Solicitor, Ended Up Soliciting.
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Lawyer and Law School Megathread #13: Market up 30% this year (to 43% of 2007 levels)
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billion dollar bitch posted:Lawyer and Law School Megathread #13: Started Out Solicitor, Ended Up Soliciting. I like that wording a little more (and considered it), but I felt like it softened the "now I'm a hooker" aspect of the punchline.
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You could also do, "Started Out Solicitor, Ended Up Solicitee." Of course "Solicitee" isn't really a word, but neither is half of the legal vocabulary so I think it balances out.
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entris posted:Baristas don't get sent overseas to die, though. Yeah but to be fair if you paid a grad his debt to take a non headshot, hmmmm..
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Does anybody here go to Loyola Los Angeles? My Conlaw professor taught there before this semester. Wondering if anybody could get me some of his old exams. If anybody can help me out send me a PM. Thanks!
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sigmachiev posted:This is not anywhere close to as bad as barista though. Yeah, people are actually hiring soldiers
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Cortina posted:I've also heard Wisconsin's is really easy. I don't have anything to compare it to, but I thought it wasn't too bad. I think there is a high 80% pass rate. It's also easy to become inactive. You still have to pay bar dues, but don't have to take CLEs for any 2-year period in which you don't practice. You get your results back pretty quickly in Wisconsin too, probably because WI and Marquette grads don't have to take the bar, so there are much fewer people taking it. I think we got our results back in early September.
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My study habit have always been lovely but my god 2nd semester 3L is awful, I cannot bring myself to care about any of this poo poo and I have a closed book final on friday (gently caress Transnat forever)
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Kissy Suzuki posted:My study habit have always been lovely but my god 2nd semester 3L is awful, I cannot bring myself to care about any of this poo poo and I have a closed book final on friday (gently caress Transnat forever) I just got an e-mail notifying me my diploma is in the mail. My level of giving fucks for finals couldn't be lower.
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Kissy Suzuki posted:My study habit have always been lovely but my god 2nd semester 3L is awful, I cannot bring myself to care about any of this poo poo and I have a closed book final on friday (gently caress Transnat forever)
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Some thoughts about the legendary Jay-Z and some of his lyrics from "99 Problems". It seems to me that Jay-Z is wrong in his analysis but maybe you crimlawgoons can provide better insight.quote:The year is '94 and in my trunk is raw Doing fifty-five in a fifty-four? Is there any jurisdiction in the US that has a speed limit ending in a number other than 0 or 5? I've never seen or even heard of a speed limit ending in a four. But, assuming that Jay-Z is over the speed limit, the initial stop seems legal. quote:"License and registration and step out of the car" "99 Problems" was released in 2004, and Terry v. Ohio was decided in 1968, and Maryland v. Wilson (1997) confirmed the principle that cops can order passengers out of the car during a traffic stop. So Jay-Z can't simply say "I'm not getting out of the car", right? quote:"Do you mind if I look round the car a little bit?" It seems to me that the cop can do a "protective search" of the passenger compartment. Since Jay-Z hasn't been cited yet, the rule in Knowles v. Iowa doesn't prevent the cop from trying to do a search of the passenger compartment. It seems to me that Michigan v. Long would support the position that the cop could do a warrantless search of Jay-Z's trunk, but I am unclear on a search of the locked glove compartment. Thoughts? quote:
At first I thought that calling in the K-9 squad would raise several issues of improper seizure and probable cause, but it looks like Jay-Z's fact pattern (a traffic stop where the K-9 is called) is covered almost exactly by Illinois v. Caballes (2005). So in a post-Caballes world, Jay-Z would be screwed because he'd have to wait for the K-9 unit to show up and then he'd be caught. (And dog sniffing isn't a Fourth Amendment search, so once the dog is there, he's screwed.) Is that right? Final question: Since Caballes came down in 2005, but was decided in Illinois state court in 2003, did Jay-Z crib this fact-pattern from the state court decision? He hadn't passed the bar at that point but, admittedly, he knew a little bit. entris fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Apr 24, 2011 |
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