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I think the whole joke was intended to be that KJU is a dorky looking dude and that was the extent of it but they didn't really think about the implications. Or didnt care.
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I thought the idea was that you could literally look like an infamous dictator and it wouldn't matter. 
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Jul 11, 2017 14:59
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Are people still using Ashley Madison, after the giant hack that exposed just how few women were actually using the site? I'm not even bringing up the privacy issues, because who cares at this point.
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Jul 11, 2017 15:02
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Tiggum posted:I thought the idea was that you could literally look like an infamous dictator and it wouldn't matter. Maybe they're inviting KJU to use their website.
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Jul 11, 2017 15:02
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FrozenVent posted:Are people still using Ashley Madison, after the giant hack that exposed just how few women were actually using the site?
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Jul 11, 2017 15:06
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Neon Noodle posted:Seeing as probably a lot of the people using Ashley Madison are not what you'd call "lookers," it seems like a really cheap shot at Asian ethnicity. Like, they could have used a picture of a chubby white guy? But then they'd risk alienating their customers. KJU is just a kinda chunky Korean man. If you're a kinda chunky white guy (this is America, after all), what exactly are you comparing yourself to in that billboard? KJU is an international villain, and also deeply unpopular in the US. I first though of comparing it to Osama pre-murder, but he's a non-white as well so I guess that would be racist too. Maybe Hitler would be a non-racist alternative, but he's a bit out of the limelight these days.
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Jul 11, 2017 15:21
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Yeah but the joke is about what he looks like, not what he does.
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Jul 11, 2017 15:22
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During the Irish War of Independence the Black and Tans were a military group sent over by the British to help fight the IRA. They did this by failing to do much about the IRA and instead burning and sacking a punch of Irish towns, firing into crowds of civilians, and pretty much all the other things that are considered war crimes. Naturally they have an extremely negative place in Irish culture to this day. However companies keep thinking it's a reference to Guinness I guess. The American company claimed that the ice-cream had been named in honour of the classic mixture of stout and pale ale, and not the notorious 8,000-strong British irregular force that arrived in Ireland in 1920 and is remembered chiefly for its habit of firing indiscriminately on crowds of civilians. They were supposed to commemorate St Patrick's Day. But calling them after a violent British paramilitary unit that terrorised the Irish wasn't a good move
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Jul 11, 2017 15:34
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Neon Noodle posted:Yeah but the joke is about what he looks like, not what he does. he looks like a small constipated potato and it's really weird how hard you're focusing on his race when literally nobody else is
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Jul 11, 2017 15:34
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With a terrible haircut, to boot.
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Jul 11, 2017 15:42
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Speaking of shoes, my personal favorite: "Shoe giant Reebok failed spectacularly in the late 1990s with its Incubus athletic shoe for women. As pointed out by ABC News in February 1997, when that network broke the story, the name of Reebok’s new shoe was hardly likely to appeal to its target market given that an incubus is a male demon who comes upon women in their sleep and rapes them. (The female equivalent is a demoness who targets men and is known as a “succubus.”)" [url]http://www.snopes.com/business/market/incubus.asp[/ul] https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB856407718986262500
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Afriscipio posted:Speaking of shoes, my personal favorite: I love when they don't do a cursory google of a cool sounding word. During the tenth season of the UK Apprentice one of the teams wanted a name based around ten or decade and went with Decadence. Producers waited until the boardroom of the first episode to ask them if they knew what the word meant lmao
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Jul 11, 2017 15:49
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EmmyOk posted:I love when they don't do a cursory google of a cool sounding word. During the tenth season of the UK Apprentice one of the teams wanted a name based around ten or decade and went with Decadence. Producers waited until the boardroom of the first episode to ask them if they knew what the word meant lmao Google was founded in September 1998 Rebook couldn't do a cursory google since Google didn't exist yet 
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Jul 11, 2017 16:01
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Google wasnt the first search engine. And if you searched for incubus you would have undoubtedly gotten porn. You would have gotten porn for anything.
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Jul 11, 2017 16:03
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A cursory AltaVista just doesn't have the same ring to it
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Jul 11, 2017 16:04
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Mu Zeta posted:A cursory AltaVista just doesn't have the same ring to it Lycos was always the coolest sounding search engine. Although back then everyone just used AOL. Keyword incubus rape!
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Jul 11, 2017 16:09
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Mu Zeta posted:A cursory AltaVista just doesn't have the same ring to it altavista.digital.com  I do remember these big books called 'dictionaries' which were still popular at the time. It's the literal dictionary definition: not some slang
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Jul 11, 2017 16:14
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spog posted:altavista.digital.com I would have used Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable. Naming stuff is part of my job and cool names from history and myth are a great resource - but I'm a gigantic nerd.
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Jul 11, 2017 16:22
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It's weird, if you knew the word "incubus" at all, wouldn't you know what it means? Aside from just knowing the band name of course. It's not like the word really had any other common usage. So either you're naming your product after an unaffiliated band, or a word that you haven't even briefly looked up and don't know the meaning of.
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Jul 11, 2017 16:44
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I was always an Excite man
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Afriscipio posted:I would have used Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable. Naming stuff is part of my job and cool names from history and myth are a great resource - but I'm a gigantic nerd. That's a cool job Sir Lemming posted:It's weird, if you knew the word "incubus" at all, wouldn't you know what it means? Aside from just knowing the band name of course. It's not like the word really had any other common usage. So either you're naming your product after an unaffiliated band, or a word that you haven't even briefly looked up and don't know the meaning of. oldpainless posted:I was always an Excite man Some well-intentioned bad marketing, saw a billboard based on this campaign last weekend:  But without all the purple stuff on the side that explains what the program is, so it just looked like an ad telling you the parking garage below it was a really good place to get your fix.
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Jul 11, 2017 16:52
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Speaking of bad shoe names, Umbro once named one the Zyklon.
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The Merkinman posted:The news story was from February 1997 If only Reebok had thought to ask Jeeves about an incubus.
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Jul 11, 2017 17:27
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Bobby Digital posted:Speaking of bad shoe names, Umbro once named one the Zyklon. The final solution to your footwear needs! The patented "FlexCoat" soles resist everything from the hottest ovens to the most acidic showers, and they're so well-insulated one can even step through a Russian winter with warm toes.
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I just started using it and I feel more retarded already!
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Jul 11, 2017 19:54
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Don't post selfies in here
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Jul 11, 2017 19:55
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EmmyOk posted:However companies keep thinking it's a reference to Guinness I guess. I'll admit my American ignorance on not knowing that Black & Tan meant anything other than a delicious layered concoction of Guinness and Bass (or another stout/ale combo). I mean, you can order one at any bar, or just buy this at any convenience store: As you point out in your other post though: yeah, if you're in marketing, a little research to make sure you're not offending folks in another country wouldn't hurt. I've heard that it might be an apocryphal story, but when I was taking Spanish classes my teacher told us how the Chevy Nova was a colossal failure in Mexico because "no va" literally means "no go". also the idea of a black & tan flavored ice cream sounds delicious as hell
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Jul 11, 2017 21:07
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Does retard have that connotation in polish though? Because that isn't being sold in the US.
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Non Serviam posted:Does retard have that connotation in polish though? Because that isn't being sold in the US. Yeah "retard" just means "slow down" and "zyklon" just means "cyclone." It's important to think about connotations in the market you're serving but any word might have an unintended meaning in another country. Plenty of American products sold internationally have made people giggle like sixth-graders, I'm sure.
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Jul 11, 2017 21:16
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when I was in the middle east we had laundry detergent named "BARF" which was always good for a giggle
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Jul 11, 2017 21:55
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Also Bimbo bread, popular in many parts of the world
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Corrode posted:Also Bimbo bread, popular in many parts of the world Yeah but they know what they’re doing and operate under many other brands: quote:Bimbo
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Platystemon posted:Yeah but they know what they’re doing and operate under many other brands: All that being the case, it's still a little bit embarrassing having some company you've never heard of before sponsor your city's soccer team. 
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Non Serviam posted:Does retard have that connotation in polish though? Because that isn't being sold in the US. Nope - they could have dropped it, and it would have made the same difference (though seeing that more people speak English than Latin in Poland atm, it's strange they've decided to go with it) JacquelineDempsey posted:As you point out in your other post though: yeah, if you're in marketing, a little research to make sure you're not offending folks in another country wouldn't hurt. I've heard that it might be an apocryphal story, but when I was taking Spanish classes my teacher told us how the Chevy Nova was a colossal failure in Mexico because "no va" literally means "no go". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_Laputa
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canis minor posted:Nope - they could have dropped it, and it would have made the same difference (though seeing that more people speak English than Latin in Poland atm, it's strange they've decided to go with it)  But then, we have the Ford Escort
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Every time I see a "Bimbo" delivery truck I have a sensible chuckle. I mean look at that bear, he knows exactly what's going on in the bakery after-hours. 
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Jul 11, 2017 22:52
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EmmyOk posted:During the Irish War of Independence the Black and Tans were a military group sent over by the British to help fight the IRA. They did this by failing to do much about the IRA and instead burning and sacking a punch of Irish towns, firing into crowds of civilians, and pretty much all the other things that are considered war crimes. Naturally they have an extremely negative place in Irish culture to this day. However companies keep thinking it's a reference to Guinness I guess. Unless they were planning on selling this in Ireland, I don't see the issue. Getting angry because you find something named in another country with different cultural references offensive is pretty 
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Sucrose posted:Unless they were planning on selling this in Ireland, I don't see the issue. Whoooo that's a spicy take. Don't name things after murderers. It's not like "Black and Tan" is some phrase multiple countries have with multiple meanings. It's specifically an Irish thing, and the drink was made up by English bigots to mock the people their government had murdered. It is in fact possible for something to be in poor taste, and nobody's impressed by an edgelord.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Whoooo that's a spicy take. Don't name things after murderers. It's not like "Black and Tan" is some phrase multiple countries have with multiple meanings. It's specifically an Irish thing, and the drink was made up by English bigots to mock the people their government had murdered. I actually looked into this, because the idea that a drink would be named in that way and then pretty widely adopted was sort of insane to me. Ends up the Oxford English Dictionary has an instance of it that predates the militant group by about 40 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_Tan However, the ice cream was also apparently release as a St. Patrick's Day item, so I can understand why some folks would be upset.
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