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Didn't New Orleans sue Fox over the Sodom and Gomorrah on the Mississippi song?
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I'm just a simple paperboy I just wanted 40 cents for my delivery last week Will this bewitching floozy seduce this humble newsie What's a paperboy to do? I mean, it's gold
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May 3, 2020 03:16
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Stella! Stella! Can't you hear me yell'a? You're puttin' me through Hell-a? Stella, STELLA!!!! Can't tell me this isn't genius level writing
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May 3, 2020 03:17
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steinrokkan posted:Didn't New Orleans sue Fox over the Sodom and Gomorrah on the Mississippi song? The New Orleans Fox affiliate got pissy and refused to air it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuQjoaYIwQA The chalkboard gag the next week was "I will not defame New Orleans" PostNouveau fucked around with this message at 03:52 on May 3, 2020 |
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May 3, 2020 03:49
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Data Graham posted:To this day I have to remind myself that Streetcar is not a jaunty 90s musical Yes! Planet of the Apes too
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May 3, 2020 04:12
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What's hilarious about Planet of the Apes - The Musical and Oh! Streetcar! is that back then they seemed like outlandish ideas and now that is what a good portion of musicals actually are.
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May 3, 2020 04:41
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I'm just young enough to have thought Grandpa vs Sexual Inadequacy was about Viagra instead of before its time.
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May 3, 2020 05:14
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Would rather watch them than hamilton
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May 3, 2020 05:32
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I heard a Hamilton song in an F-Plus episode and I thought it was a parody for laughing at, not with, so I'm pretty sure I wouldn't enjoy the musical.
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May 3, 2020 05:47
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:What's hilarious about Planet of the Apes - The Musical and Oh! Streetcar! is that back then they seemed like outlandish ideas and now that is what a good portion of musicals actually are. It probably doesn't help that they're so much fun to watch. Stop The Planet Of The Apes, I Want To Get Off is an interesting one; Troy Mcclure is definitely giving his all, while Dr Zaius is barely trying.
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May 3, 2020 06:51
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you broke my grill posted:Isn't Lisa's substitute the one where homer says just because I don't care doesn't mean i don't understand yup that's the one i was under the impression saying something like that to your emotionally fragile daughter is, you know, kind of a dick move
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May 3, 2020 07:21
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The most successful stage musicals now are all things like Batman the Musical or Spongebob the Musical so yeah checks out
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May 3, 2020 11:52
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Reminder that the Simpsons was meant to be a counter balance to the maudlin schlocky sentimentality that pervaded basically all family sitcoms in the 80s To criticize the show for lacking that sappy quality and saying the characters behave lovely to each other is missing the point entirely “So and so was rude to someone, then later learned the error of their ways and apologized sincerely, and we are supposed to believe them genuinely reconciling makes it all better???”  -a possible troll? Tell me where the bad cartoon touched you, otherwise give me a break 
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May 3, 2020 14:52
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Calico Heart posted:The most successful stage musicals now are all things like Batman the Musical or Spongebob the Musical so yeah checks out It turns out musicals are a lot more fun when they embrace being silly with a straight face
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May 3, 2020 14:58
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Reminder that the Simpsons was meant to be a counter balance to the maudlin schlocky sentimentality that pervaded basically all family sitcoms in the 80s Yeah I think we are all forgetting our much the Simpsons hated and satirized the sitcom formula. Homer isn’t just being mean, they are mocking the idea of the sitcom father. What I really don’t get is that even when it’s being nasty, it’s so tongue in cheek that I can’t imagine seeing it as cruel. They are also very good at still coming together to a pleasant moment at the end, being sappy in their own way. I just don’t see how any episode from the golden era could be considered irredeemably mean.
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May 3, 2020 15:08
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Data Graham posted:To this day I have to remind myself that Streetcar is not a jaunty 90s musical I actually only know it in that context, even though I am otherwise a very learned intellectual I swear
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May 3, 2020 15:28
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Me too, lol. And Same with Planet of the Apes.
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May 3, 2020 15:35
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Phlegmish posted:am otherwise a very learned intellectual I swear It's pronounced "learned"
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May 3, 2020 15:45
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If you made a top ten animated sitcom eps of the 90s between a Streetcar Named Marge and the episode of King of the Hill where they go to Bill's ancestral home in Louisiana a full 20% would be extended riffs on Tennessee Williams.
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May 3, 2020 16:17
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It's a shame they canned their composer. The arrangement and compositions he came up with just perfect. Streetcar really exemplifies what I mean. The voicing when everyone starts singing "You Can Always Depend on the Kindness of Strangers!" is peak simpsons sound
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May 3, 2020 20:02
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Plant MONSTER. posted:It's a shame they canned their composer. They said publicly at the time that they wanted to go in a new direction and they didn't think he could hack it on the hourlong rap Great Gatsby episode. But that doesn't make a ton of sense. There's no way the show would completely bail on classical music, and one episode is no reason to fire someone you've worked with for 27 years. Then recently one of the producers said that they found out he'd been letting his son compose his music, which makes a lot more sense. https://screenrant.com/simpsons-composer-alf-clausen-fired-fox/
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May 3, 2020 20:18
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PostNouveau posted:They said publicly at the time that they wanted to go in a new direction and they didn't think he could hack it on the hourlong rap Great Gatsby episode. tbh, i'm legit surprised a guy like that has managed to work on the show for 27 years. i mean, it's not like phineas and ferb where literally every single episode has an original song (which is honestly loving impressive, btw). the simpsons constantly reuses the same music cues over and over (which is not really a criticism since most shows do). yeah there are episodes where there's a new musical required or whatever, but those are rare. the dude has been collecting a paycheck for nearly three decades continuously without taking a break at all. like, he's not even a contractor, he's a fulltime employee.
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May 3, 2020 20:56
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Reminder that the Simpsons was meant to be a counter balance to the maudlin schlocky sentimentality that pervaded basically all family sitcoms in the 80s lol the show was being sappy and scmaltzy in the first ever episode.
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May 3, 2020 21:18
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Calico Heart posted:lol the show was being sappy and scmaltzy in the first ever episode. Nobody will deny that Simpsons can be sappy cause that is true but that doesn’t mean they didn’t have nasty, satirical, episodes that were very different from almost every network sitcom of the time. And that attitude was integral to the show and would be a disservice to ignore it. They could do either cause it was just funny as poo poo for a long time.
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May 3, 2020 21:30
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I mean that’s why politicians were all like “The Simpsons are going to lead to the moral degradation of America”
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May 3, 2020 21:48
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So I was watching some s1 episodes and I was wondering, was the original intention that Patty and Selma don't live in Springfield? Because early season episodes always made it seem like a big deal whenever they would show up but then eventually it just got kind of normalized.
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May 3, 2020 23:35
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Mr Interweb posted:tbh, i'm legit surprised a guy like that has managed to work on the show for 27 years. i mean, it's not like phineas and ferb where literally every single episode has an original song (which is honestly loving impressive, btw). the simpsons constantly reuses the same music cues over and over (which is not really a criticism since most shows do). yeah there are episodes where there's a new musical required or whatever, but those are rare. the dude has been collecting a paycheck for nearly three decades continuously without taking a break at all. like, he's not even a contractor, he's a fulltime employee. Phineas and Ferb is apparently a funny case where the execs saw Gitchie Gitchie Goo and demanded that every episode have a song, and it worked out loving amazing
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May 4, 2020 05:56
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surely the simpsons back-catalogue of original music is so large now they never need a new original song
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May 4, 2020 11:45
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Riptor posted:It's pronounced "learned" Thanks, Pepsi
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May 4, 2020 12:24
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I think my favorite gag is the end of the swear jar episode where Homer steps on a nail and says, "Tweedle dee dee, that will require a tetanus shot." That delivery kills me and I laugh like an idiot every time I think about it.
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May 4, 2020 13:51
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PostNouveau posted:Then recently one of the producers said that they found out he'd been letting his son compose his music, which makes a lot more sense. I hope his son is like five years old
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May 4, 2020 14:05
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the source on the Claussen thing: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/fox-says-discovery-simpsons-composer-culminated-firing-1292397
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May 4, 2020 14:38
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Atlas Hugged posted:I think my favorite gag is the end of the swear jar episode where Homer steps on a nail and says, "Tweedle dee dee, that will require a tetanus shot." That delivery kills me and I laugh like an idiot every time I think about it. when i saw that scene for the first time, i laughed for like a half hour straight. Empty Sandwich posted:the source on the Claussen thing: huh, interesting. guess i was wrong. he was a contractor after all.
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May 4, 2020 15:20
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Homer should be in prison for repeatedly strangling his son imo
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May 4, 2020 15:36
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Mr Interweb posted:huh, interesting. guess i was wrong. he was a contractor after all. Kinda sounds like it's going to wind up as a precedent-setting case when Clausen loses because the only other case involved a full-time employee of CNN. Also seems like the "delegating his work" thing might be an attempt to get a ruling similar to the plagiarism ruling in the CNN case.
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May 4, 2020 15:57
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Didn't this happen with a video music guy too? Those composers I tell you
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May 4, 2020 17:41
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lol Christ imagine being such an entitled prick that you're a multimillionaire getting insane money from royalties on The Simpsons and living in a giant mansion in Beverly Hills and when you get caught having your son do all your work, you want to file a lawsuit instead of just quietly retiring to a life of poolside massages.
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May 4, 2020 18:01
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Marcus Elden posted:lol Christ imagine being such an entitled prick that you're a multimillionaire getting insane money from royalties on The Simpsons and living in a giant mansion in Beverly Hills and when you get caught having your son do all your work, you want to file a lawsuit instead of just quietly retiring to a life of poolside massages. Clausen's got Parkinson's and also is 79, so I imagine it started small with his son executing some tasks for him in like an assistant capacity, and it just accelerated to him doing all the work and both of them thought it was acceptable because he's "just helping out his sick dad." And then this rap episode rolls around and the producers have some pointed questions about the compositions, and Clausen can't give them any answers because he didn't do any of it. So the Clausens are aggrieved to the point of suing because it looks to them like they did nothing wrong.
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May 4, 2020 18:14
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The new one is the 2nd part of the two-parter from last week. The new pastor turns out to be a bit of a Unitarian it seems. Ned gets mad at him because he says something like "I believe god set the universe in motion but then he or she just loved everyone after that." This sends Lisa off on a fantasy sequence where she sings a song about her burgeoning belief ("I've got Buddha, I've got science, and now Jesus makes three"). They haven't done a ton with Lisa's Buddhism, and she stopped believing in Christianity because Lovejoy's church became crass and commercialized, so I suppose Christian universalism isn't too big a jump. This still rubs me the wrong way though. The Lovejoys have traveled to Michigan to find dirt on the new pastor. They find a megachurch, and the leader there shows them a video of the new guy saying possessions don't matter and then burning ... something. The new guy has a scripture showdown with Ned about universalism, which he wins. Lovejoy shows up and reveals that the thing the new guy was burning was the Bible because God is in your heart not a book. There's a cutaway gag with Drederick Tatum, who now doesn't have the Mike Tyson face tattoo that they gave him in the episode where Marge runs his weed dispensary THIS SEASON. The town holds a town hall, and elects to banish the new paster. Lenny tells him he'll burn in hell for burning the bible even though Lenny is Buddhist, as established in an episode I would have taken the time to watch if I were writing this episode. No happy ending on this one. Lisa's like "Dude you should not have done that" and he's like "Yeah I did not make my point well" and that's pretty much the end. They do not address if Lisa is going to stick with the church. There were actually some good gags in this one. The Springfield NPR affiliate broadcasts wrestling with a soft-voiced NPR nerd doing play-by-play and Lisa's vision board is filled with crushing disappointments. 
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Ah I guess it was time for another weird theological episode. Probably some great jokes about the Trinity!!
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