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It was, but that just takes it from "gruesome" to "horrifying". They burned an effigy of the statsminister because they want to be free to ignore public health concerns.
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TheFluff posted:https://www.dn.se/debatt/det-ar-inte-strategin-som-forklarar-svenska-dodstalen/ This is interesting. Has he published an actual statistical analysis somewhere? The immediate relationship between strong measures and low covid-rates doesn't at first glance seem to be as strong as you would expect. But I'm a little sceptical about him being hung up on initial R0-rates. These are very difficult to estimate, particularly in situations with little testing. His explanations for differing R0-rates between Norway and Sweden are sort of a stretch.
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military cervix posted:This is interesting. Has he published an actual statistical analysis somewhere? The immediate relationship between strong measures and low covid-rates doesn't at first glance seem to be as strong as you would expect. But I'm a little sceptical about him being hung up on initial R0-rates. These are very difficult to estimate, particularly in situations with little testing. His explanations for differing R0-rates between Norway and Sweden are sort of a stretch. I'm curious too. But the general idea that it's too simply to draw a correlation between measures and death rate is worth keeping in mind. An expat living in Praag kept taunting the rest of our facebook walls all spring about how moronic Sweden's policy was and that if they just did like the Czechs then there'd be no problem because they had low covid rates. Well, a few months later the Czech Republic was one of the deadliest place in Europe with, well, exactly the same measures, and suddenly those posts dried up.
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lilljonas posted:I'm curious too. But the general idea that it's too simply to draw a correlation between measures and death rate is worth keeping in mind. An expat living in Praag kept taunting the rest of our facebook walls all spring about how moronic Sweden's policy was and that if they just did like the Czechs then there'd be no problem because they had low covid rates. Well, a few months later the Czech Republic was one of the deadliest place in Europe with, well, exactly the same measures, and suddenly those posts dried up.
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This is what happens when sub-80 IQ football hooligans get their booksmart friends to read them Qanon and antivaxx bullshit and decide to become a political force because football clubs are hurting a bit under a century pandemic. Not to repeat myself, but:  Revelation 2-13 posted:Another "men in black" demonstration in copenhagen. I don't know what's worse; their idiotic name or their moronic purpose. Jfc. What's worst is how they loving desecrated Bella Ciao. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVo5zBL1-XE THE BAR posted:
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Jan 24, 2021 11:40
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in norway there definitely does look to be an inverse correlation between severity of measures and rate of growth in cases that may be an effect of the measures directly or it may be an effect of the of people getting more disciplined as stuff gets more serious. who knows
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SplitSoul posted:It was an effigy of Mette Frederiksen bearing the words "Hun må og skal aflives". I know, but they sure spent a lot of time making it look like a real, charred corpse.
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Jan 24, 2021 12:53
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THE BAR posted:I know, but they sure spent a lot of time making it look like a real, charred corpse. It's a bad sign when your society starts to resemble the plots of Wicker Man or Midsummar.
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actually what's the deal with danish covid protesters being so militant? we've had some protests here as well, but nothing approaching your level
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Jan 24, 2021 14:06
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THE BAR posted:I know, but they sure spent a lot of time making it look like a real, charred corpse. Ehhhh  V. Illych L. posted:actually what's the deal with danish covid protesters being so militant? we've had some protests here as well, but nothing approaching your level Like I wrote further up, they're evidently primarily from the hooligan milieu, at least that seems to be Redox' take on them. SplitSoul fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Jan 24, 2021 |
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Jan 24, 2021 14:07
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SplitSoul posted:Ehhhh I didn't say the doll looked convincing, but those internal parts are a step beyond.
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THE BAR posted:I didn't say the doll looked convincing, but those internal parts are a step beyond. I think it's just a coincidence. From the looks of it it was a store mannequin of some sort, but I haven't studied every picture.
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Are they anti COVID19 measures protests or like...an excuse to be loud and angry? (Yes it can be both but I missed the context)
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Jan 24, 2021 14:23
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teen witch posted:Are they anti COVID19 measures protests or like...an excuse to be loud and angry? BlankSystemDaemon posted:There seems to be a whole lot of intersectionality between people with a deep-rooted mistrust of the government because politicians make mistakes, people who're heavily into conspiracy theories, people who believe in alternative medicine, and people who deny that COVID-19 exists and/or is dangerous.
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teen witch posted:Are they anti COVID19 measures protests or like...an excuse to be loud and angry? Anti-mask, anti-restrictions, anti-"Agenda 21" and all sorts of other conspiracy poo poo. What little Redox had on them suggested football hooligans upset, among other things, about lockdowns and restrictions hurting their preferred football clubs, but latching onto other dumb crap to widen their base. Or something like that. It's all very stupid.
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fnox posted:Besides, this poo poo with the masks, they obviously know masks work otherwise they wouldn't recommend it for people travelling using public transport on rush hours. The logic there being, you can't avoid not keeping distance, and you also don't have good enough air circulation. Why would that not apply to, say, going to the mall, or the store, or a public building? How about the workplace? What could possibly be different then? I don't know if they've explained their reasoning for not wanting to recommend masks for a long time but I'd assume that they did so because they didn't want to send mixed signals about isolation (that isolation would be less important if you were wearing a mask). They just really didn't want you to go to the mall or a public building at all, and didn't want to lessen the strength of that message with a "but if you have to...". I don't know if I agree with that rationale but I can see some logic in it. Since they've had to abandon that line now I don't know why they wouldn't recommend masks in almost any public setting though. military cervix posted:This is interesting. Has he published an actual statistical analysis somewhere? The immediate relationship between strong measures and low covid-rates doesn't at first glance seem to be as strong as you would expect. But I'm a little sceptical about him being hung up on initial R0-rates. These are very difficult to estimate, particularly in situations with little testing. His explanations for differing R0-rates between Norway and Sweden are sort of a stretch. I don't know if he's published, but I don't think so. His recent published papers seems to all be regarding malaria. The original article on dn.se had some links to the datasets he was using at least. As a professor at Karolinska he is a public figure so maybe he'd respond to an email with some polite questions. I'd expect his inbox to be full of hate mail at the moment though. I'd agree that very early numbers are probably sketchy. Regarding early reaction times in Sweden and Norway I also believe that Sweden was slower to react in the sense that the spread had gotten further by the time actions were taken, so in practical terms the reaction was slower. I'd say that's something you can pin on FHM, and that mistake was repeated in the fall. I do think he's right though when he says that there's no reason to believe that harsher restrictions would have helped in the Swedish case. Now, earlier restrictions on the other hand might have, I suspect, but I have no actual evidence to support that. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jan 24, 2021 |
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SplitSoul posted:
Good lord, that's an atrocity worthy of going to the Hague. Color me un-surprised that it's connected to sports team fans. Holy poo poo the amount of money we waste on police resources every time those idiots have a ball-kicking championship or whatever is insane.
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https://www.gp.se/nyheter/g%F6teborg/gulnar-v%E4grar-jobba-utan-munskydd-kan-f%E5-sparken-1.40324026 Cool cool cool cool cool cool cool
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teen witch posted:https://www.gp.se/nyheter/g%F6teborg/gulnar-v%E4grar-jobba-utan-munskydd-kan-f%E5-sparken-1.40324026 Wanna come be norwegian? It's pretty cool.
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teen witch posted:https://www.gp.se/nyheter/göteborg/gulnar-v&%23228;grar-jobba-utan-munskydd-kan-f&%23229;-sparken-1.40324026 Best part of it is that the comments mention that the boss who is enforcing no mask use at work is working from home due to being in a risk group.
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Ett litet lol: https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/Blyy3Q/bensinupproret-om-medlemsraset-det-ar-en-katastrof Lookit, someone got coopted, and sabotaged their own movement - and are now planning a parlimentary career in riksdagen. Shocker E: im being mildly facetious here, but it walks like duck, talks like a duck.. Gedt fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Jan 25, 2021 |
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Jan 25, 2021 15:24
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Poil posted:I want to get off Sweden's Wild Ride. 
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One of the upsides of the near genocidal levels of mismanagement of Corona in Sweden. Is that since the socdems (more like suckdems) will be completely annihilated in the next election. At least SD won't get the chance of acting as kingmaker for at least another 2 elections.
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Katt posted:One of the upsides of the near genocidal levels of mismanagement of Corona in Sweden. Is that since the socdems (more like suckdems) will be completely annihilated in the next election. At least SD won't get the chance of acting as kingmaker for at least another 2 elections. That's not really where things are heading (yet). The ones on the block are MP, L and KD. For M and S covid has been a blessing.
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MiddleOne posted:That's not really where things are heading (yet). The ones on the block are MP, L and KD. For M and S covid has been a blessing. I dont think they need to do anything att all to become part of the royalty. Just sitt back and let S and MP immolate, the less they do the less they can gently caress up.
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18.8 BILLION for the animal abusers. Absolute insanity. NEVER again let a neolib tell you "We can't afford it" or ask "Where will the money come from?".
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It's more than ever other industry has gotten, combined. Just utterly absurd.
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It's a semi-bribe meant to make the whole thing go away, I think. I saw this incredible poo poo head in the local news complaining that it isn't enough: https://www.tvmidtvest.dk/holstebro/skuffet-minkfamilie-om-milliardaftale-der-bliver-ikke-penge-til-alle Quote: "Jeg har vanskeligt ved at se, hvordan de kan spise os af med 18,5 milliarder, når vi taler om et helt erhverv og følgeerhverv." My suggestion is that they should live one week under circumstances comparable to those they kept mink under, in order to receive their compensation.
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KozmoNaut posted:It's more than ever other industry has gotten, combined. What, it's to be shared among the one thousand mink farmers. Basically peanuts if you think about it. Those poor poor farmers.
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Potrzebie posted:What, it's to be shared among the one thousand mink farmers. Basically peanuts if you think about it. Those poor poor farmers. It's barely enough for a pair of shoes, let alone shoes for the entire mink molesting family.
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Sound almost like they are buying out the mink business entirely. The gov might as well shut it down now as the farmers got enough to pretty much just walk away whole.
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Threadkiller Dog posted:Sound almost like they are buying out the mink business entirely. The gov might as well shut it down now as the farmers got enough to pretty much just walk away whole. No, the holdouts will wait for the temporary ban to end, SuccDems will be too scared to extend it, and we'll bounce the then 40 different human variants around the mink reservoir a few times and see what comes out.
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SplitSoul posted:No, the holdouts will wait for the temporary ban to end, SuccDems will be too scared to extend it, and we'll bounce the then 40 different human variants around the mink reservoir a few times and see what comes out. The danish strain will be what finally wipes out the swedish menance and allows for the reunion of eastern Denmark with the motherland, mission accomplished. 
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Jokes on you guys when the zombie minks eat you all, while we blow the bridge and save the joyful scanians from your menace once again.
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Threadkiller Dog posted:Jokes on you guys when the zombie minks eat you all, while we blow the bridge and save the joyful scanians from your menace once again. Minks swim.
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Rust Martialis posted:Minks swim. https://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/12/world/sweden-says-those-russian-subs-were-minks.html
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Rust Martialis posted:Minks swim. Scania, 2030 
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Rust Martialis posted:Minks swim. Tegnell bet it all on zombie minks not doing it. Who could have known?
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Threadkiller Dog posted:Tegnell bet it all on zombie minks not doing it. Who could have known? 
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