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XK posted:The one at 1:55, look for the motorcycle. I never saw it until it was pointed out to me.  It was bad enough without having that pointed out. Holy poo poo.
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Negromancer posted:The whole cellphone thing that drives me the most crazy is the people who are driving brand new BMW/MB/Audi/etc that are talking on their phones and holding them. I know that you have bluetooth on your phone and you car and that it is super loving easy to setup and works really well. Hell, even if you are too stupid to figure out how to pair your phone to the car, the dealership will do it for you(the VW dealer did it when I bought my JSW, despite me telling him I could handle it). I just don't understand why someone would rather hold their phone instead of push a button to answer the phone thats on the loving steering wheel, and then just be able to talk to someone. How else are you supposed to use facebook/twitter/whatsapp/tinder/grindr/messenger/ebay..........................? My favourite one was the lady who as I was cycling up a road, pulled out in front of me so closely that I hit her rear bumper with my tyre despite hauling on the brakes and was watching some TV show with her phone sat on her dash.
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Jul 24, 2015 09:09
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The Locator posted:One thing that is really striking about the dash cam videos from Russia (and to be fair, a lot of the ones from the US and Europe) is how many crashes were completely avoidable by the person who was *not* at fault. But "by god, I have the right of way, and I'm going to T-bone that loving fuel tanker rather than give it up!" That video is unique as there are three clips where the dashcam owner pulls over to help. I have seen a huge number of dashcam crashes from Russia and I can count the number of times they stop on the fingers of one finger. Not big on helping their fellow man, are these comrades.
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Jul 24, 2015 09:44
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spog posted:That video is unique as there are three clips where the dashcam owner pulls over to help. I feel like most of the ones I watch on this channel most people stop to help, especially the clips when it's a car biffing it on one of those back country roads with nothing around. One thing I've noticed and I wonder if it's something to do with Russian laws or fault assignment but they never move out of the way when there's a minor accident. The second two cars touch they both stop where they are, put on flashers, and get out and wait for the police. Doesn't matter if they're blocking the entire roadway, I almost never see them pull over to the side to deal with it, it's always done in the middle of the road as soon as the accident occurs and everyone else needs to drive around them.
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Jul 24, 2015 14:24
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Scruff McGruff posted:I feel like most of the ones I watch on this channel most people stop to help, especially the clips when it's a car biffing it on one of those back country roads with nothing around. One thing I've noticed and I wonder if it's something to do with Russian laws or fault assignment but they never move out of the way when there's a minor accident. The second two cars touch they both stop where they are, put on flashers, and get out and wait for the police. Doesn't matter if they're blocking the entire roadway, I almost never see them pull over to the side to deal with it, it's always done in the middle of the road as soon as the accident occurs and everyone else needs to drive around them. To be fair, I see that happen a lot in America too. GOTTA PRESERVE THE SCENE SO THE POLICE CAN INVESTIGATE. 
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Jul 24, 2015 15:03
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Honestly, I think it's just because people don't know what to do after an accident and they're usually flustered. I keep a checklist in my glovebox and I actually have an iPhone app with the same thing (and space to take notes) just so I don't have to think about it if I'm ever in a stressful situation right after an accident or something. I think the worst thing that can happen is for two people who have never been in accidents before to get into an accident with each other, because then you don't have anyone that knows anything around.
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Jul 24, 2015 15:21
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtTkpCeA4yg https://uk.news.yahoo.com/video/man-drives-off-bridge-netherlands-162626415.html quote:the man was initially unharmed and climbed out of the vehicle, but broke several ribs and punctured a lung when attempting to escape the water (warning: autoplaying video in that link)
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Jul 24, 2015 15:33
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quote:the man was initially unharmed and climbed out of the vehicle, but broke several ribs and punctured a lung when attempting to escape the water ...how are people this dumb still alive in such a dangerous world?
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Jul 24, 2015 15:38
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88h88 posted:...how are people this dumb still alive in such a dangerous world? This fuckwit had to put up some serious effort to get himself in this situation. Drive under red crosses, past numerous warning lights, and through a physical barrier to even get to the bridge. Regardless of what motivated his actions, he should be put through an article 130 procedure before ever getting his licence back. This person is probably either physically or mentally unable to operate a motor vehicle of any description.
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Jul 24, 2015 16:31
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I teach drivers ed and we just finished a section on distracted driving. ATT's "It Can Wait" video is drat good to show to kids how easy it is for poo poo to go south. I also have them write down what they want to do in five years and the last text they sent. I then pair them up and say "Jake here was texting 'I'm so money' and crossed over the centerline and hit Callie head on. She's paralyzed and will never be able to be a dancer on Broadway". There's even an It Can Wait VR app which I recommend. You can do it without the cardboard goggles but it's really awesome. In other bad driver news: on the highway I saw a PT cruiser with its reverse lights on at night. As it got farther away, it was bright enough to look like a car driving the wrong way down the road.
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Jul 24, 2015 18:46
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Earlier today had to wait a good five minutes to leave a parking lot because someone decided to drive the wrong way down the one way lot and then fumblefuck their way through a 15 point turn to get into the angled parking spot. At least they kept yelling about how sorry they were every time they backed out and tried to ram their car into the spot from the wrong direction again...
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Jul 24, 2015 22:41
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fralbjabar posted:Earlier today had to wait a good five minutes to leave a parking lot because someone decided to drive the wrong way down the one way lot and then fumblefuck their way through a 15 point turn to get into the angled parking spot. At least they kept yelling about how sorry they were every time they backed out and tried to ram their car into the spot from the wrong direction again... At that point, why not just back into the spot and deal with things on the way out? Wouldn't that be just the easiest thing ever?
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Jul 24, 2015 22:45
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Ya know, I almost never get calls while I'm driving so I've never really thought much about taking the call (phone to ear), seeing if it's important, then either quickly finishing the call or telling whoever it is that I'm driving and will call them back when I'm done. In cases where the person needed to talk to me, I'd pull over. I've decided that this is no longer acceptable as I had my first near-wreck this week due to being on the phone. To be fair, it wouldn't have been my fault. I was in the left lane doing about 70 in a 65 mph zone, and about to change over to the right after a pass, when a Porsche 928 came tearing up behind me so fast that he was not there one second, and there the next. Because I was on the phone I couldn't signal, so I started to move over but he assumed I didn't see him and moved right to undertake me. I had a split second of absolute panic, until he saw my move and swerved back left, and I very quickly finished my lane change to the right. He blasted past me doing at least 100, full throttle with exhaust screaming. On one hand he was driving WAY illegally and like an rear end in a top hat to boot. But I fully recognize that I would have been much better equipped to safely react to his dangerous behavior were I not on the phone. I've always preached that it's my job as a good driver to avoid other people's idiocy when possible regardless of how the insurance would play out. I promise AI I will no longer phone and drive. LloydDobler fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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Jul 24, 2015 23:07
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tuna posted:probably your standard left foot braker resting his foot on the loving brake pedal and toggling the brake lights every other second. Just stay well away from them as if they had no brake lights at all. That was what I thought too, but this guy had freakish machine-like regularity. Either way, I did give him a wide birth.
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Jul 24, 2015 23:33
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PT6A posted:At that point, why not just back into the spot and deal with things on the way out? Wouldn't that be just the easiest thing ever? "But that's not my favorite thing!" -them
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Jul 25, 2015 00:48
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Are you guys only against specifically holding the phone while driving? I've been using a wired headset for 10 years, and I focus on the road first, then the phone call, and I make the other person aware that I will zone them out while I focus on what is in front of me. It's actually a great way to let my mother talk about her church group for a half hour while I keep tabs on other drivers. It's me, I'm the other driver on the phone
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Jul 25, 2015 03:07
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I don't have bluetooth in my car, but I do have an aux jack, so I used to hook the phone up to that and use speakerphone and it worked fine. I'm using one of these in my car, and despite the cables being short enough that the microphone has to be mounted down near the radio quality is fine (according to my mum who is about the only person that makes actual phone calls anyway) It also works perfectly for getting Spotify to play on the cars audio system so it would be worth it even if you don't do calls in the car at all.
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Jul 25, 2015 03:15
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CharlieWhiskey posted:Are you guys only against specifically holding the phone while driving? I've been using a wired headset for 10 years, and I focus on the road first, then the phone call, and I make the other person aware that I will zone them out while I focus on what is in front of me. It's actually a great way to let my mother talk about her church group for a half hour while I keep tabs on other drivers. It sounds like you do so fairly responsibly. I wouldn't criticize you for it unless I saw you weaving into my lane, blowing through stop signs, or sitting at a green light.
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Jul 25, 2015 05:29
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Krakkles posted:Personally, I'm against being on it at all. I'll generally settle for other drivers using handsfree setups, even though there are studies indicating that it's as or nearly as unsafe. This is my view - I personally never talk on my phone because of how many close calls I've had from other people doing it. I almost got in trouble at my last job over the past winter because I was on call, a huge snow storm came through and I was driving my 2WD Malibu to a couple client sites that had power/ISP outages, I missed a couple calls and a manager tried to bitch until they realized I was blowing through streets that hadn't been plowed in below zero weather and ended up getting sick from it.
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Jul 25, 2015 06:52
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Personally I find talking to a passenger more distracting than talking on the phone (when my phone worked hands-free). I still never liked talking to people on the phone in the car even when I could properly do it hands free, but I don't see why talking on the phone would be more distracting than a passenger.
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Jul 25, 2015 17:00
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LloydDobler posted:Ya know, I almost never get calls while I'm driving so I've never really thought much about taking the call (phone to ear), seeing if it's important, then either quickly finishing the call or telling whoever it is that I'm driving and will call them back when I'm done. In cases where the person needed to talk to me, I'd pull over. I'm almost the opposite of you: I had a pro-fitted handfree kit - all the bells and whistles including voice dialling and I only ever made short calls to boring people on long, safe stretches of road. About the safest that you can be while on the phone. I began to notice that when I was on a call, my speed dropped and I wasn't keeping up with traffic. Also, when I finished the call, I had to make a special effort to look around and note where other cars were in relation to me (instead of being just aware of it) I then began watching other cars on the roads and noticed a consistency: those who had poor lane/speed discipline had about a 70% chance of being on the phone I stopped using the phone. My new car has no phone connectivity at all and it stays on vibrate in my bag.
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Jul 25, 2015 17:50
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Yeah, I always feel fine when talking on the phone while driving, but then notice that I don't remember much of the last minute or two once I hang up. I pick up sometimes on the highway, but not when driving in town.
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Jul 25, 2015 17:55
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Personally I find talking to a passenger more distracting than talking on the phone (when my phone worked hands-free). I still never liked talking to people on the phone in the car even when I could properly do it hands free, but I don't see why talking on the phone would be more distracting than a passenger. Because the passenger adds a second set of eyes. Lots of studies have proven that although still distracting, its still orders of magnitude safer than a phone conversation.
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Jul 25, 2015 18:24
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Personally I find talking to a passenger more distracting than talking on the phone (when my phone worked hands-free). I still never liked talking to people on the phone in the car even when I could properly do it hands free, but I don't see why talking on the phone would be more distracting than a passenger. Siochain posted:Because the passenger adds a second set of eyes. Lots of studies have proven that although still distracting, its still orders of magnitude safer than a phone conversation. dee eight posted:A point here is that a passenger is able to see what the driver sees and should know when to shut up. Like when the semi ahead starts shedding retread and swaying all over the lane. A person on the other end of a phone conversation is unaware of what's happening on the road. I'm sure plenty other drivers besides me have turned off the radio/tunes and told passengers to shut the gently caress up when a traffic situation looks to be turning hairy.
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Jul 25, 2015 18:46
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This year our company announced a zero-tolerance policy on business calls (handsfree or otherwise) and texting while driving. Guess how well enforcement has gone?
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Personally I find talking to a passenger more distracting than talking on the phone (when my phone worked hands-free). I still never liked talking to people on the phone in the car even when I could properly do it hands free, but I don't see why talking on the phone would be more distracting than a passenger. You're thinking about it backwards (wrong): it's not that passengers aren't distracting, it's that it's harder to ban that. I mean, look at the cell phone laws - those exist, and you obviously don't think they apply to you. Imagine how flagrantly you'd break a law that said you couldn't have any distracting conversation, or how hard it would be to enforce. dee eight posted:I'm sure plenty other drivers besides me have turned off the radio/tunes and told passengers to shut the gently caress up when a traffic situation looks to be turning hairy. ... I don't think this "second set of eyes" theory holds much water. Krakkles fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jul 25, 2015 |
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Jul 25, 2015 18:58
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Uthor posted:Yeah, I always feel fine when talking on the phone while driving, but then notice that I don't remember much of the last minute or two once I hang up. I pick up sometimes on the highway, but not when driving in town. Weird. I'm just the opposite. On the rare occasion that I'm taking a call in the car (always hands free), it's the conversation that is in the 'back' part of my mind, and if things on the road get busy, I completely lose the conversation and then when I realize it I'll tell the person I'll call them back later, or just tell them sorry, traffic was busy and I completely missed what you just said. I always keep any call in the car short and to the point anyway, as I'd rather not be on a call at all.
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Krakkles posted:Based on the number of people that I've been in a car with who don't notice anything (driving or as a passenger), and who get mad when I dare tell them to shut the gently caress up because something is going very wrong, As far as a second set of eyes most of my friends and family to be as good of passengers as they are drivers. Those that are attentive drivers tend to be observant passengers where those that are scary to ride with tend to have no idea what's going on at any time.
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Jul 25, 2015 20:56
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I understand pulling into the intersection and waiting for the red light to make your left turn, but this is a new one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_R7PcoU53A edit- she doesn't even look my direction, I should use my powers of invisibility for awesome
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Jul 25, 2015 22:02
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We are extremely terrible at multitasking so please stop doing it when piloting a 2 ton plus road missile.
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Jul 25, 2015 22:53
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superdylan posted:I understand pulling into the intersection and waiting for the red light to make your left turn, but this is a new one Her intersection technically, until the driver clears you have no business being there. You don't know if there isn't a hazard in her way you cannot see. Especially on a bike, you weigh much less.
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Jul 25, 2015 23:51
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leeanator posted:Her intersection technically, until the driver clears you have no business being there. You don't know if there isn't a hazard in her way you cannot see. Especially on a bike, you weigh much less. She was behind the stop bar and not in the intersection through the light cycle and into his green light. That's a straight up running of a red.
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leeanator posted:Her intersection technically, until the driver clears you have no business being there. You don't know if there isn't a hazard in her way you cannot see. Especially on a bike, you weigh much less. Technically I entered it first on a green light
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SyHopeful posted:She was behind the stop bar and not in the intersection through the light cycle and into his green light. That's a straight up running of a red. Yeah, there really shouldn't be any debate around this one.
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Jul 26, 2015 01:06
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PT6A posted:Yeah, there really shouldn't be any debate around this one. (I agree with you.)
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Jul 26, 2015 03:17
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I'm the person you share the road with. I was changing lanes in D.C. tonight and I completely missed one of those tiny smart 2go or whatever rental cars on my left. He had to honk to let me know he was there. It's so embarrassing to be schooled by a dinky smartcar horn but I had it coming. Later that night I was triple-shoulder checking before lane changes on the beltway. That kind of thing must happen a thousand times a day in any major city but not to me dammit, I'm one of the good ones!
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Jul 26, 2015 04:36
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To sideswipe a car2go (or any Smart) is a glorious thing; feel not shame, only disappointment.
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Jul 26, 2015 04:53
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Safety Dance posted:Choke on a barrel of dicks. Not sure how prevalent it is elsewhere, but I know where I live that bikes can use the street OR the sidewalk. Depending where you are in town, this is a huge blessing, especially at 4 way stops when cyclists think they're exempt from the rules everyone else has to adhere to.
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Jul 26, 2015 06:12
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Completing your turn after the light has gone red is legal here. Except you have to already have been pulled into the intersection, not sitting at the stop line.
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leeanator posted:Her intersection technically, until the driver clears you have no business being there. You don't know if there isn't a hazard in her way you cannot see. Especially on a bike, you weigh much less. Ozz81 posted:Not sure how prevalent it is elsewhere, but I know where I live that bikes can use the street OR the sidewalk. Depending where you are in town, this is a huge blessing, especially at 4 way stops when cyclists think they're exempt from the rules everyone else has to adhere to.
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