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senae posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UyPV2Fj4lk When I first heard about this, I thought it was a joke. "Well, the Sarkeesian Effect didn't pan out, so instead, I'm going to make a documentary about a game company where many of the lead designers were women."  What sucks is that I actually would like to see a documentary about Sierra.
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Joel McHale at the VGX awards is nothing to bat an eye at compared to Jamie Kennedy. I'd rather see Plinkett videos about the Matrix series, to be honest. EDIT: Max Wilco posted:When I first heard about this, I thought it was a joke. "Well, the Sarkeesian Effect didn't pan out, so instead, I'm going to make a documentary about a game company where many of the lead designers were women." AL Lowe just didn't research Jordan Owen before doing that interview, right? He's not actually one of those dirtbags, right? A good poster fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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Honestly Force Awakens has already been dissected so much that I'd rather have a Plinkett review of something else at this point. I'll probably still enjoy it though.
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Augus posted:Honestly Force Awakens has already been dissected so much that I'd rather have a Plinkett review of something else at this point. I'll probably still enjoy it though. I get the feeling they're going to do a Cop Dog kind of movie or two before to tease the fans. The TFA DVD isn't even out yet right? So I'm not sure how they'd get their footage.
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A good poster posted:AL Lowe just didn't research Jordan Owen before doing that interview, right? He's not actually one of those dirtbags, right? I want to say "probably not", but then again Lowe's signature work is the Leisure Suit Larry series, which is kind of an inherently misogynistic set of games based on their portrayal of women. Lowe's Twitter feed is also a stream of nothing but innocuous yet highly sexist dad jokes, so make of it what you will. He's not an actively offensive person, but there's enough there that it's easy to see why Jordan "I like my ladies like I like my fish, behind a shatterproof glass pane" Owen would seek him out first as his proof of concept subject.
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I'd like to quickly remind everyone that one of the first excuse-criticisms to be thrown at Anita Sarkeesian (you know, before she had actually made any videos) by the anti-feminist crowd was that she was supposedly ripping everyone off and her price point was way too high and that nobody knew where all that money would actually be going and the whole thing was just a con to make money by demonizing our poor video games. Yep.
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MrSlam posted:I get the feeling they're going to do a Cop Dog kind of movie or two before to tease the fans. The TFA DVD isn't even out yet right? So I'm not sure how they'd get their footage. It comes out next month.
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achillesforever6 posted:Also Jack and Rich play Firewatch Which is why the comments are cheering him the gently caress on. He found a perfect niche of "Oh, I have this voice that I use to scream a lot with" and "Gameplay... over everything" and "lol made some pc dweebs uppity at me" over a lot of skits he made. He more or less secured himself an highly successful position with this sort of stuff.
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I think that Previously Recorded is not a very good series and RLM would be better off without it.
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nine-gear crow posted:If you offered me $10 billion to stand in an elevator next to Jordan Owen for like just 20 minutes, I'd turn it down, because he's a physically repulsive human being. Also I bet he smells of wicked perma-BO Maybe our priorities are vastly different but I'd def take 10 billion dollars for just about any 20 minute activity that didn't permanently cripple me.
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achillesforever6 posted:Also Jack and Rich play Firewatch I didn't mind this. He just seems a little out of touch and has his own odd opinions on things. His whole "Not a game" thing is leagues better than 99% of people I've seen bitch about Gone Home or Depression Quest.
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achillesforever6 posted:God Rich is becoming more insufferable with each video I like him. It probably says a lot about me that I think he's kind of appealing (  a national treasure). He's like that one kid in your group of friends who's an rear end and has stupid wrong opinions but they have this weird stat-boost to their charisma so they're also the life of the party and everyone just rolls with it.
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senae posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UyPV2Fj4lk I kind of want to send this to Jordan on twitter to see if he'll make a response video. We should all do that. Edit: My favorite Jordan Owen moment is when he made a rebuke video about 10 seconds of a John Oliver segment that ended up being longer than the whole episode.
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Chromatic posted:Edit: My favorite Jordan Owen moment is when he made a rebuke video about 10 seconds of a John Oliver segment that ended up being longer than the whole episode. You shouldn't leave out the detail that he's educating John Oliver about how women on the internet are never actually harassed or sent threats and they're all just faking it in an elaborate hoax. That's an important detail.
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Chromatic posted:I kind of want to send this to Jordan on twitter to see if he'll make a response video. Oh, I'm sure Jordan's already aware of it. He seems like the kind of person who devotes an hour or two out of his otherwise empty days to obsessively searching his own name across various social media platforms. Also, Protip: don't read Jordan Owen's Twitter account unless you really want to see page after page of notifications of all strippers, porn actresses, and probably just outright porn spam bots that Jordan has decided to follow because no he doesn't have unhealthy ideas about women and relationships, where would you get that impression from?
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Chromatic posted:I kind of want to send this to Jordan on twitter to see if he'll make a response video. Don't touch the poop.
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Alacron posted:Don't touch the poop. Why would anyone want to touch Jorden Owen?
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He also used to believe that anyone who disagreed with him was following secret personal orders from Anita Sarkeesian. He made something like 100 videos about her before the first tropes vs women segment was even posted.
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Alacron posted:Don't touch the poop. Yeah. I was half tempted to submit Hbomb's video to Kotakuinaction with some insane headline about how Anti-GG wants to discredit one of the true critics of Anita or some insane bullshit like that. Sadly people would actually take it seriously though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn8_tX_KM3g Speaking of people who can't stop bitching about Anita. (Double post but it deserves it.) Buzzwords in the video: Censorship, 1984, Feminazi, Trigger, Idiocracy, Professional Victims.
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I have to admit, Rich did on me for the first time in the FIrewatch video. He has been good about not running jokes into the ground before, but I worry he has found his gimmick. 
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Man, rape victims who are horribly traumatized to the point that certain imagery will cause them to have an emotional breakdown sure are funny, guys! Let's turn this into an internet meme! Whoa I'm so triggered right now! Whooooooaaaaaa!!!
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I think the problem is that term is way over used by people who want to feel special. It's sadly been deluded it and makes it hard to take seriously some times. At least on the internet.
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Tracula posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn8_tX_KM3g Just looking at this guy makes me hate him. What a loving clown.
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On some level you do gotta feel bad for Owen, though. Aurini clearly falls into the opportunistic-right-wing-shitbag camp, but Owen is more the no-hoper type who's afraid that the one thing that makes his life worth living is going to be taken away. That doesn't justify anything he does, but Owen is lovely because of a hurting deep inside him, where Aurini is lovely because of a blackness in his soul.
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CelticPredator posted:I think the problem is that term is way over used by people who want to feel special. It's sadly been deluded it and makes it hard to take seriously some times. While I think you meant "diluted," your version isn't too far off, either... It's a sad case where a bunch of people stumbled into social justice discourse and decided "Hey, here's a great way I can win arguments and be immune to criticism!" so you've got a chunk of people still using terms as they were originally intended, and then a bunch of shitheads who think "triggered" means "ticked off." And guess which set the antis have decided are representative?
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Yeah, my bad. My grammer sucks. 
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Puppy Time posted:While I think you meant "diluted," your version isn't too far off, either... When someone says "Gays are all disgusting predators who prey on children" the correct response to defend against homophobia is not "well some child molesters happen to prefer male children, yes"
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The Vosgian Beast posted:When someone says "Gays are all disgusting predators who prey on children" the correct response to defend against homophobia is not "well some child molesters happen to prefer male children, yes" What the gently caress are you even saying?
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Tracula posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn8_tX_KM3g I hadn't ever heard of this dude but a couple days ago he did a video about this whole Coleco Chameleon trainwreck and while it was generally full of truth the guy clearly needs to switch to decaf. Or start vaping hash oil. I mentioned this and someone brought up he was one of these idiots. Merely the opening here explains it. He sort of looks like a crazy homeless person so can we hope it's mostly an act/gimmick? I've never gotten the outrage over hoopy earring lady though. She is kind of full of it, but well meaning and not entirely wrong at her core. Seems stupid to get worked up over. Konami and EA have done far more damage to gaming than Anita could do if she managed to wrangle every single college Tumblr lady to work alongside her and was even remotely as evil as these wackadoos think she is. Oh well. poo poo, in some ways the online YouTube reviewer community have damaged gaming more than someone bringing up some valid points that at least need acknowledging since have you seen what Turbografx games go for now? The Earthbound cult?
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I used to think GamerGate was good for like a month when it first started and just thinking about it fills me with a sense of embarrassing dread.
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Captain Rufus posted:The Earthbound cult? Uh what?
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Andrast posted:I remember a lot of people getting really butthurt about that McHale thing because he didn't respect videogames or some stupid poo poo like that. It's about ethics in video game journalism.
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I don't remember people being upset McHale ruining the VGA's but my gaming internet critic followers at the time was angry joe, screwattack and TB, so I was around people who hate Geoff Keighley by defult and enjoy seeing his hollow empire burn.
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lornekates posted:It's about ethics in video game journalism. You say this ironically but Geoff Keighley personifies the gasoline that GamerGate sparked in. Publishers have always been hugely concerned with review scores, since they carry a heck of a lot of weight with the "core gamer" community, so there was a sense that critics could dictate the zeitgeist of gaming. And, it was an open secret that publishers were (at least implicitly) buying review scores and chumming it up with so-called journos, so there was already massive distrust of "games journalism" in the core gamer community, but one centred on an idea that "games journalism" ought to be a sacred thing free of outside influence. Where more reasoned people would just disregard the idea of review scores as absolute, the core gamers were bent on fixing the system; add to this the weapons-grade sexism or at least distrust of women among the core gamer community, add a scandal alleging that a woman was using sex to get good reviews for her game, and the fear that, due to the influence of game critics, that good reviews for games like hers might mean that dudebros are no longer the be-all-and-end-all demographic, and FWOOM goes the gasoline.
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DStecks posted:You say this ironically but Geoff Keighley personifies the gasoline that GamerGate sparked in. Publishers have always been hugely concerned with review scores, since they carry a heck of a lot of weight with the "core gamer" community, so there was a sense that critics could dictate the zeitgeist of gaming. And, it was an open secret that publishers were (at least implicitly) buying review scores and chumming it up with so-called journos, so there was already massive distrust of "games journalism" in the core gamer community, but one centred on an idea that "games journalism" ought to be a sacred thing free of outside influence. Where more reasoned people would just disregard the idea of review scores as absolute, the core gamers were bent on fixing the system; add to this the weapons-grade sexism or at least distrust of women among the core gamer community, add a scandal alleging that a woman was using sex to get good reviews for her game, and the fear that, due to the influence of game critics, that good reviews for games like hers might mean that dudebros are no longer the be-all-and-end-all demographic, and FWOOM goes the gasoline. you seem like a fun guy. Cyron fucked around with this message at 06:09 on Mar 10, 2016 |
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Cyron posted:you seem like a fun guy. You seem like Cyron.
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DStecks posted:You seem like Cyron. it's a fair life, I am going to help the campaign for Bernie sanders on Monday, I hope he wins. (No really, this is the first time I am helping a Presidential campaign and I am so exited I just want to tell everyone  )
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Cyron posted:it's a fair life, I am going to help the campaign for Bernie sanders on Monday, I hope he wins. Good on you, Cyron.
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