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GSA has a formula they use to calculate it based on how much stuff costs in a given area, low adjustments are at least an indication that they're applying the formula uniformly albeit to minimal effect in places.
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Midjack posted:GSA has a formula they use to calculate it based I thought it was based on the difference between private sector and government pay for similar work, and the fact that they aggregate a bajillion different types of occupation into a single locality rate was one of the many reasons locality rates are hosed.
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Well, my job's special pay rate is now going to be exceeded by the Washington DC locality table. Thankfully, (1) the higher of the two is what I get paid and (2) I still live in a county covered by the DC locality.
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Shadragul posted:Well, my job's special pay rate is now going to be exceeded by the Washington DC locality table. Thankfully, (1) the higher of the two is what I get paid and (2) I still live in a county covered by the DC locality. You a 2210?
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Retrograde posted:You a 2210? Nope. I had to look it up, I'm a 1224.
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dublish posted:I thought it was based on the difference between private sector and government pay for similar work, and the fact that they aggregate a bajillion different types of occupation into a single locality rate was one of the many reasons locality rates are hosed. You're right, I was thinking per diem rates. 
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Looks like a ~$5500 bump for me. It’s all going into my TSP.
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I’m very happy with the pay increase this year. My step increase hits at the end of the year so it’ll be a big jump for me in January.
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Submitted my retirement date to my HR specialist today for end of March. I had her run my estimate 2 years before I was eligible to ensure my military time was correct. Nothing was wrong, but I've known people to submit their retirement date a week out and are shocked that things aren't correct. Last year, I also had one of my employees email everyone that he was retiring end of October. Problem was he never actually submitted his paperwork, he thought all he had to do was email the entire field office and his retirement would somehow be magically processed. Cue to end of the first November pay period when my admin officer calls payroll to close him out and they respond "what retirement?". He gets called back in to actually retire in November and took a hit of about 6 days of LWOP. In short, always assume your retirement calculations will be wrong, reach out as early as your agency allows you to validate your time, and clearly understand what's expected of you to officially retire.
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Evil SpongeBob posted:Submitted my retirement date to my HR specialist today for end of March. Good advice! Congrats on your retirement. I just found out Friday that I don’t exist in the retirement system, even though I’ve been paying into it. They’re too busy to fix it right now because they’re processing end of year retirements.
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Ghost Cactus posted:Good advice! Congrats on your retirement. HR: 
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A lot of employees retire in December so they can sell their leave. It's calculated at the new year pay raise rate. I also just found out that any sold leave is subject to max out as well, so I'm looking forward to whatever leave I sell back to be reduced by my max out rate. I'm a 15/6 in Los Angeles so I'm over the ceiling by 20 hours a pay period. Which is why I'm taking LWOP 80 hours in my final 2 months to recoup a paycheck.
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Dec 24, 2023 07:55
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well, now I have to update my angry claimant catchphrase "I get paid 70k a year to be yelled at so by all means, continue" to "I get paid almost 80k a year to get yelled at so by all means, continue"
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Dec 24, 2023 11:42
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You laugh but this actually happened to me. They meant to promote to another position in the same organization. Instead they terminated me. Took them 3 pay periods to unscrew it. Evidently the fire button is right next to the hire button in FPPS? 
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I could skip like 6 steps if I moved a few counties over - Austin to Houston metros… But I will content myself with a GS 11 step 1 becoming about equivalent to a step 2 a few months early to my actual step 2 in May
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Retrograde posted:Happy new pay raise table day fellow fed goons: https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/salaries-wages/2024/general-schedule/ Supposed to have a provisional offer coming this week and was going to try to negotiate an extra step and faster leave accumulation. This... this is nice too.
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Chad Sexington posted:Supposed to have a provisional offer coming this week and was going to try to negotiate an extra step and faster leave accumulation. This... this is nice too. Nice! Definitely try and get the extra leave, starting at 6 hours a pay period was awesome, my boss got it when he hit 3 years because his boss didn't know that that was a thing you could request so he had to get there the long way.
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I was denied for one of the two supervisory positions I applied for as I did not meet the geographic requirements. The office is the 2nd floor of the building I work in. On the first floor. Apparently I'm not close enough though
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If a job begins at GS-07 and its promotional steps cap out at GS-12, is the sequence of promotions 7-8-9-10-11-12, or is it 7-9-11-12? I have no idea where I got the impression that it might be the latter path if that's not the case.
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7-9-11-12 would be the typical promotional path.
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Star Man posted:I have no idea where I got the impression that it might be the latter path if that's not the case. Most orgs just straight up do not have GS-8 or GS-10 positions. This is just speculation, but I think on paper a GS-8 and GS-9 have a lot of the same requirements, except one pays a ton more. So if you're an agency who has to do a bunch of HR work to demonstrate that you need a thing done by an 8/9 to create a posting, you attract a lot more people if it's a 9. So the agency practices learn over time to just say "Hey don't try to create a GS-8 position, idiot". And you only need 1 year in a GS-7 to qualify for GS-9, and 1 year in GS-9 to qualify for GS-11. I think some of the agencies like forestry use GS-8 because they need more granularity, because their supervisors top out a lot lower than the big professional agencies.
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I'm an IRS phone jockey, so it's a 5-6-7-8 path. I have an application with IRS criminal investigation that starts at GS-07 and ends at GS-12. I'm right now GS-06 and promote to 07 at the end of May. I'd love to jump up a grade early, even by one pay period. I eagerly await my rejection email in 2027.
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Devor posted:Most orgs just straight up do not have GS-8 or GS-10 positions. GS-12 is the most common overall. https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/05/10/characteristics-of-federal-employees/
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I'm genuinely shocked that there are any GS-1s at all, although apparently those are mostly interns?
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I think the last time I looked out of curiosity, the one listing I found was for a summer lifeguard on a foreign military base. The only one I can find right now is a work-study job at the Library of Congress for high schoolers, which sounds kind of neat? Sure beats the jobs I had in HS https://www.usajobs.gov/job/743409500
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Quorum posted:I'm genuinely shocked that there are any GS-1s at all, although apparently those are mostly interns? SSA had them in the mailroom as hires designated to help non-graduates and otherwise underprivileged individuals back in the early 2000s.
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A former ssa supervisor liked to talk about how she rose from gs-1 to 13 or whatever through her grit and gumption. To be fair, at another agency my big boss rose from a GS 3 or whatever typist to SES over her approximately million year career (who are these crazy people with 40+ years of service??)
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Thesaurus posted:A former ssa supervisor liked to talk about how she rose from gs-1 to 13 or whatever through her grit and gumption. I worked with a couple of SES who had come into federal service at age 17 and stayed feds until they had to retire.
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Midjack posted:I worked with a couple of SES who had come into federal service at age 17 and stayed feds until they had to retire. Absolute psychopath behavior.
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Toshimo posted:SSA had them in the mailroom as hires designated to help non-graduates and otherwise underprivileged individuals back in the early 2000s. found your GS-1 
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Toshimo posted:Absolute psychopath behavior. The only person I know who started as a teenager is stuck at a GS-9 thanks to classism around roles. This place may literally fall apart when she leaves.
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I work with people who have been in the IRS call center long enough to be at or close to step ten as GS-08. Becoming a full-time team lead pushes you to GS-09.
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There's been a few high school to life people at both the groups I've worked with so far, all of them except one having gotten their jobs through nepotism with at least one parent working in the same office. None have been crazy but unsurprisingly they don't seem to have a strong sense for what working outside their specific agency is like. Most have had at least some awareness for how lucky they were to just be plopped into pension having (eventual) 6 figure jobs but all have blind spots where they just accept some blatant agency specific bullshit as normal and seem to hate federal unions.
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That happened to a coworker of mine, he was somehow deleted from the payroll system and all his access to everything was also removed. Nobody could (or would) explain how it happened and they wouldn't give him admin leave while they fixed it so for like 3 weeks he just had to show up and sit around doing nothing all day.
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Star Man posted:I work with people who have been in the IRS call center long enough to be at or close to step ten as GS-08. Becoming a full-time team lead pushes you to GS-09. I think (but am not 100% sure) that a lot of those guys are grandfathered into GS-09 because the tax law specialists maxed out at that but the position was eliminated like 10 years ago so nobody gets hired as that anymore.
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We had a 30 year CSR (GS-8) with a gambling problem (the real reason he never got promoted to Claims Specialist- he'd have been in federal prison) and other weird mental stuff. One day he complained about micromanagement in our, to be frank, probably undermanaged office. I proceeded to tell him the clocking-in process at a normal industrial job, and asked him how he clocked in at SSA.
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And what did he say!
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My cousin at SSA worked over 10 years to make GS-12 and I entered government at GS-13 
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lol and a few days after I make that above post, I get ambushed by a recently promoted OS with a grudge so nakedly that I invoke Weingarten for the first time in my life.
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What are fun things to use your annual $750 training budget on???
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