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I wonder if Quebecois people look at Northern Maine and go "that's our land"? e: yeah, they probably wouldn't say it in la mauvaise anglaise Jerry Manderbilt fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Jul 1, 2014 |
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I wonder if Quebecois people look at Northern Maine and go "that's our land"? And thus began the great moose-lobster war.
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Jul 1, 2014 04:40
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I wonder if Quebecois people look at Northern Maine and go "that's our land"? No, but they probably go "C'est notre terre!"
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Jul 1, 2014 04:40
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To be fair, northern Maine does have a significant French-speaking population, so... quote:French language spread in the United States. Counties marked in yellow are those where 6–12% of the population speaks French at home; brown, 12–18%; red, over 18%. French-based creole languages are not included.
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Jul 1, 2014 04:45
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Rah! posted:And thus began the great moose-lobster war. You mean the Second Aroostook War right?
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Jul 1, 2014 04:53
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Peanut President posted:You mean the Second Aroostook War right? If the first Aroostook War was the first moose-lobster war, then yes. edit: only 38 deaths, all non-combat related? Some war that was. Rah! fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Jul 1, 2014 |
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Jul 1, 2014 05:05
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Would you be willing to die on the battlefield for Great Manan?
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Jul 1, 2014 05:08
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:A game in which you try to guess where in the world you are by being plunked into a google street view: https://geoguessr.com/ I got a massive feeling of nostalgia when this game gave me a beautiful green suburbia on an overcast day. Blue street signs, American flags hanging from houses, and decaying roads. I zeroed in on my grandmother's hometown of Metairie, Louisiana. Apparently, I have a hard time differentiating New Orleans and Detroit.
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:A game in which you try to guess where in the world you are by being plunked into a google street view: https://geoguessr.com/ (speaking of Britain, if you want an easier mapset, UK is pretty good for that) e: drat it, round 5! Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Jul 1, 2014 |
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Jul 1, 2014 08:53
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Jul 1, 2014 08:59
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What's politically loaded about Starcraft?
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Jul 1, 2014 09:00
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Peanut President posted:What's politically loaded about Starcraft? Are you kidding? that map is Ohana. That's two letters away from Obama. Knowledge is power.
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Where's the ring?
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This is from a few pages ago, but every time Korea gets mentioned in this thread there's a burst of well-meaning disinformation. If this thread has a bizarre fixation on Serbia (and it does but it's still funny,) there's also some kind of bizarre Korea-related gullibility where everyone goes "hmm didn't know it was so backwards"ClearAirTurbulence posted:The average may have diverged in the 1970s, but for a long time after that most South Koreans were not seeing an improvement of their living conditions, the increase in wealth was not seen by everyone. It wasn't until the establishment of the Sixth Republic in 1987 that South Korea became the modern industrialized nation it is today. Though North and South Korea had a rough parity in average GDP for a long time, North Korea had better distribution of the wealth they had to the population as a whole. Kind of like how the USA can have a higher average GDP than a lot of countries that provide free housing, education, and medical care. By 1970 North Korea's total trade was already 1/4 that of the South, and total exports only half. The oil crisis smashed the NK economy and they stagnated up until, ironically, world communism collapsed. It seems odd to say SK "became" a modern industrialized nation in 1987 when it was already the world's 18th largest economy and the streets of the developing world were being rocked by Daewoo buses arriving off of Hyundai-produced ships. I mean, at the start of the decade the main exports already include steel, ships and musical equipment...  It's absolutely true that the government was horrible and authoritarian, and the successors only dropped the six-day work week in our lifetimes. But it's revising history to ignore how development during that bleak period was deliberate and meticulous. The decision was already made in '72 to promote and support heavy manufacturing and chemicals. Pretty much every target for development from the late 60s onward was met early by years, and the North stopped self-reporting lots of its economic data for a period after 1975. What reason could they have had?  So the North enjoyed "better distribution of wealth" than the South but systematically enforced privileged access to education, travel, healthcare, basic luxuries, etc. etc.? It's perfectly fine to think that development in the South was less than perfect and be disgusted at what chaebols get away with today and still think by any comparison the South outpaced the North magnificently. It's awesome that there are posters in this thread who lived/live here and are interested in sharing things about it, but if you think the average 70-something Korean would say living conditions "saw no improvement" until the late 80s, you are believing some bizarro parallel Western version of 'fan death.' Does :korea: seriously not exist? Where is my crying zergling?
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What about the claim perpetuated in YLLS that elderly Koreans always blow dry their balls after showering at the gym?
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Not always but often. I missed whoever was claiming living standards didn't improve until the 80s, that's bizarre. They definitely started improving in the 60s, though Korea didn't really achieve a western level of wealth until the 90s. Even today it's easy to see that modernity is new here; it doesn't take much to find the marks of a developing country. I live in by far the richest city in the country and I can find people living in shacks made out of doors and tarps within ten minutes of where I work. The comedy plumbing and electrical networks show how relatively new those things are. It doesn't need to be as rich as today to be better than before, though. Politically, yeah, South Korea was a lovely dictatorship until 1988. And dictatorship-like qualities are still around to this day.
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Park Chung-hee is pretty much the textbook "Developmental Dictator" you learn about in any East Asia-focused polisci class. He pretty much single-handedly lifted Korea into its Asian Tiger status with his focus on the shipbuilding industry. Korea's 1987 democratization wasn't the cause of industrialization and economic growth, it was the result of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Am1hL-lm0
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mcustic posted:What about the claim perpetuated in YLLS that elderly Koreans always blow dry their balls after showering at the gym? "Always" is probably semantically a bit of a stretch, but it's a stretch I'm more comfortable with making than putting a leg up on the mirror and sticking my balls under a hand dryer. Grand Fromage posted:Even today it's easy to see that modernity is new here; it doesn't take much to find the marks of a developing country. I live in by far the richest city in the country and I can find people living in shacks made out of doors and tarps within ten minutes of where I work. The comedy plumbing and electrical networks show how relatively new those things are. It doesn't need to be as rich as today to be better than before, though. Definitely true, but I wonder how much of that is perspective coming from experience with life in Anglo countries/Northern Europe where infrastructure is really, really organized and well-laid out. Giant, scrotum-like tangles of wire probably outnumber neat lines even in Europe once you leave the most developed corners of it. It just boggled my mind to see that original quote when we've just had an election here where voters split on age lines between elderly folks' "her dad was a great dictator and we have smartphones now; would deffo be teargassed again" and young peoples' "being hit in the face with a baton was not prerequisite towards getting an Audi forty years later"
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BUTT PIPE posted:Definitely true, but I wonder how much of that is perspective coming from experience with life in Anglo countries/Northern Europe where infrastructure is really, really organized and well-laid out. Giant, scrotum-like tangles of wire probably outnumber neat lines even in Europe once you leave the most developed corners of it. Well that's what I mean, the signs that this place was not developed are still everywhere because it is so recent. And those are just a couple examples, there's plenty of other things. People's attitudes reflect it--the generation gap here is more of a generation canyon. A sixty year old Korean and a twenty five year old are from different planets. I also think the extreme every man for himself/gently caress you got mine attitude in day to day interaction is in large part a leftover from having to scramble and scrounge for things like food.
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I didn't say that things in South Korea didn't start to get better until the 1980s, I said that for most people the quality of life in South Korea didn't get better than North Korea until the 1980s. South Korea did begin developing rapidly in the 1960s, but if you look at the chart comparing it to North Korea, both countries developed at a similar rate. South Korea did pull ahead of North Korea around 1970 in average GDP, but average GDP is an imperfect measure of the quality of life of your average working class person, especially when you are comparing a country with a socialist economy and a capitalist economy. Kuwait has an average GDP twice that of the Netherlands. Which is the better country to live in for the majority of the population?
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ClearAirTurbulence posted:Which is the better country to live in for the majority of the population? You ask that question like the answer is obvious. Maybe I'm a big dummy but I have no idea.
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Is the majority population of Kuwait like in the UAE? Temporary workers/slaves?
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Jul 1, 2014 15:48
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It's Belgium you shitwits.
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Riso posted:Is the majority population of Kuwait like in the UAE? Temporary workers/slaves?
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Frostwerks posted:It's Belgium you shitwits. Sorry for being a shitwit, but I've heard that life is pretty sweet for a lot of the citizens of gulf states with like free oil money and an endless supply of slave labor. I just didn't know whether or not Kuwait was part of that.
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Here's the map of the recently claimed Islamic State, the Caliphate formed by the group formerly known as ISIS (who are entering a zone or some sort, possibly a dangerous one):
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Why would they not claim the coast? Why are they not claiming Kurdistan? I don't support these guys but I don't understand their logic. Edit: Also, the overwhelmingly black flag and black maps reminds me of "Are we the baddies?" twoday fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Jul 1, 2014 |
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Bloodnose posted:Sorry for being a shitwit, but I've heard that life is pretty sweet for a lot of the citizens of gulf states with like free oil money and an endless supply of slave labor. I just didn't know whether or not Kuwait was part of that.
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twoday posted:Why would they not claim the coast? Why are they not claiming Kurdistan? I don't support these guys but I don't understand their logic. My guess would be they're claiming all provinces with a Sunni Arab majority. The coastal area they don't claim is pretty close to where the old Alawite state was, southern Syria is Druze, you already said Kurdistan, and a lot of southern Iraq is Shi'ite.
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Psychlone posted:Here's the map of the recently claimed Islamic State, the Caliphate formed by the group formerly known as ISIS (who are entering a zone or some sort, possibly a dangerous one): So basically eat the poorer half of Iraq, gorge themselves on all of Syria except the Alawite stronghold of Latika, and not even nibble a bit on either Lebanon, Israel, Turkey, Jordan or Saudi Arabia? That is some weak rear end caliphate.
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 Today, the European Court of Human Rights ruled on the French ban on face-covering clothing, which is mainly opposed by those who feel discriminated because they are not allowed to wear burqa/niqab in public. The court states that they agree with French government on the statement that wearing a full face-cover conflicts with respect for the minimal necessities for an open democratic society, because the face plays an important role in social interaction. It states the law does not prevent Muslim women from wearing religious clothing that leaves the face visible. And the law does not ban anything on religious grounds. However, the court says that other arguments from the French government are invalid, namely those about identity fraud (there are other ways to prevent that), gender equality and human dignity. The court's final conclusion is that the ban on face-covering clothing is legal and allowed to continue. The European Court is the highest for EU citizens, so it's impossible to appeal this decision. (E: I translated this from a Dutch news article which was probably translated from elsewhere and my legalese English is horrible so forgive me if I use words wrong.) Carbon dioxide fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Jul 1, 2014 |
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twoday posted:Why would they not claim the coast? Why are they not claiming Kurdistan? I don't support these guys but I don't understand their logic. I think the idea is that they're trying to form a Sunni Arab state, so they've left alone areas that are neither Sunni nor Arab or already controlled by Sunni Arabs.
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Correction: The European Court of Human Rights is not an EU institution. The highest EU court would be the European Court of Justice.
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Still, it's not possible to appeal an European Court of Human Rights decision. I'm not sure what would happen if a country ignored one of their decisions, though.
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Probably some very stern words out of Brussels. Maybe some finger wagging.
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There has to be one guy in France who is able to speak Russian, come on.
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skipThings posted:There has to be one guy in France who is able to speak Russian, come on.
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I'm surprised that Lithuania is so high when both Latvia and Estonia has significantly larger russian minorities.
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Kainser posted:I'm surprised that Lithuania is so high when both Latvia and Estonia has significantly larger russian minorities.
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