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Duckbag posted:Honestly, I thought it sounded like too much until I saw they'd only be 8 episodes each. IASIP is doing just as great as ever. These are lovely, lazy, points.
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Duckbag posted:Honestly, I thought it sounded like too much until I saw they'd only be 8 episodes each. Maybe I'm not remembering it right, but I sort of felt like at the very start of the series that there was three tiers at ISIS: Archer, Malory, Lana, and Cyril's clique and Krieger, Ray, Cheryl and Pam's clique and everyone else, and that they DIDN'T really interact with one another all that much on the same level. Part of the joke was that secretly the second-tier team was doing their own thing and no one outside of them noticed Cheryl was a pyromaniac, Krieger was doing mad scientist stuff, Pam had this really violent double-life no one knew about, Ray was actually super competent, etc. I don't know how long something like that could be sustained though, or if it was only eventual that they'd all end up getting into a more singular unit.
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The only character I thought has gotten worse over the past few seasons is Pam. Before Archer Vice she was my absolute favorite character on the show. But then she became a one-joke pony and never really recovered after kicking the cocaine addiction. On the flip side, Archer isn't the one-dimensional rear end in a top hat he was for a long time, and Lana has had some character depth added to her as well. Every character has been at each other's throats, that's one thing that's never changed. Credit to the last two seasons, they really toned down on the recurring jokes after reaching a low with them in Archer Vice. My main problem with Archer is that Adam Reed doesn't make good story arcs, and the episodes that focus on them take away from the funny moments. That's why I thought the last three episodes of the last season were weaker than the very good stuff in the beginning.
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get that OUT of my face posted:
Counter point: Heart of Archness and Stage Two/Placebo Effect.
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swickles posted:Counter point: Heart of Archness and Stage Two/Placebo Effect.
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Hmm http://www.avclub.com/article/archers-going-back-time-season-eight-243840
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1947 should have plenty of spy stuff to work with. That was the year the CIA was created.
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Archer is gonna be his own grandfather.
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GreenNight posted:Archer is gonna be his own grandfather. Or his own father 
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Kesper North posted:Or his own father Why not both!
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Seeing as it's never been clear what year Archer actually takes place in, I fully expect this season to take full advantage of that ambiguity. Also, it buys Adam Reed time to come up with the most convoluted explanation possible for how Archer survived the season 7 finale. I figured that Archer was gonna make the relegation to FXX this season. Turns out I was right. get that OUT of my face fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Oct 8, 2016 |
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get that OUT of my face posted:Seeing as it's never been clear what year Archer actually takes place in, I fully expect this season to take full advantage of that ambiguity. Also, it buys Adam Reed time to come up with the most convoluted explanation possible for how Archer survived the season 7 finale. This will be the third time they're claiming the show is moving to FXX. I don't know why they don't just do it already. Anyway I came here to post this article. For those who want to re-live some Frisky Dingo moments. https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/11/10-ways-adult-swims-frisky-dingo-predicted-the-201.html
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The best part of the Frisky Dingo election subplot was how it all ended neither actually fulfilled the requirements for being President. Xander wasn't 35 and Killface wasn't a US citizen.
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We sure could use Vice President Fred Dryer right about now.
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Dookberg posted:We sure could use Vice President Fred Dryer right about now. TV's Hunter?
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Raskolnikov38 posted:TV's Hunter? He was HUNTER?
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Raskolnikov38 posted:TV's Hunter? Works for me!
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Harumph!
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It's like finding out Jesus knew karate! Imagine that, Stan, karate Jesus.
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Ford 2020
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Wow. That's some big pants.
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His rear end is everywhere!
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I just had the flash of insight for a personal love to see it happen episode: Archer goes to the country of Georgia and takes out a psycho American ex-pat running his own militia out of the mountains in a true Heart of Darkness style story (Unlike the Heart of Archness parody which I loved too)
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JollyPubJerk posted:IASIP is doing just as great as ever. These are lovely, lazy, points. IASIP also doesn't have any of the problems he attributed to Archer. Everyone being flanderized, for example, is no biggie with IASIP because they were all larger-than-life to begin with; with the Archer side cast, they were a bit more grounded (Krieger aside) to begin with, and so flanderizing them is a bit jarring.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:IASIP also doesn't have any of the problems he attributed to Archer. Everyone being flanderized, for example, is no biggie with IASIP because they were all larger-than-life to begin with; with the Archer side cast, they were a bit more grounded (Krieger aside) to begin with, and so flanderizing them is a bit jarring. Seamus disagrees
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They're different genres. Always Sunny can get away with the cast spinning their wheels and doing the same poo poo over and over because it's a conventional sitcom. It's way darker than most of its forebears, but it's basically the successor to a lot of other long running comedies like Seinfeld and Cheers so it has bits of character development here and there, but mostly goes for a situation-of-the-week type feel. Archer has that sitcom stuff going on, but it's also a spy genre parody that's set up as an ongoing story with mysteries, character arcs, plot development, worldbuilding and all that jazz baked into its DNA. Unfortunately, it often seems like these two sides of the show are working at cross purposes.The tension between the daring/stupid spy exploits and the terrible personal lives of these broken people is the core of the show, of course, but pushing too far in either direction is a problem and I think we can see that happen in many of the weaker episodes. The first few seasons had this gradual drift from being a largely plot driven genre parody with a new mission every week to being almost entirely character driven and focused on their personal foibles and wacky hijinks (this happened on Sealab and Frisky Dingo too, so I think it might just be an Adam Reed thing). Archer Vice started making things more plot-y again and had some convoluted CIA cocaine plot at its center, but it never seemed to matter that much what the details were and it was all weirdly hard to follow because so much of it seemed to consist of the characters ignoring their surroundings and their supposed mission in favor of yelling at each other and rehashing old catchphrases. Which I get is part of the joke, but I think it's something that's been consistently holding the show back.
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Let's give Season 7 credit, there wasn't nearly as much catchphrase recycling as there was in Archer Vice. If they made it more of a stand-alone season but set in LA, I think it would have been better. The beginning of the season had some of the funniest episodes in a while.
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No arguments here. Season 7 was definitely a return to form. I wasn't that invested in the Hollywood intrigue -- and that's probably on me for never watching much Noire -- but the season still had a really solid throughline and some standout episodes (especially the ridiculous hostage scenario and the crazy finale). I might have to rewatch it before season 8 comes out because there was a lot going on last season and I think I binged through it too quickly. All grousing aside, I love this show and when it's on fire there's nothing like it, so if they keep up the recent quality, I'll be more than happy to eat my words.
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Vishass posted:Pacific Heat is now available on netflix. I had absolutely no idea what this was so I punched in to Google.... First Result: ‘Pacific Heat’ Review: Netflix’s ‘Archer’ Rip-Off Should Be Avoided at All Costs Whelp.
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AV Club's review is even more scathing: Pacific Heat asks the question "What if Archer wasn't funny?" http://www.avclub.com/review/netflixs-new-show-pacific-heat-asks-what-if-archer-246485
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bull3964 posted:Netflix should have just picked up Moonbeam City. Moonbeam City got amusing towards the end of its run, which is more than I can say for this. It also looked fantastic.
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bull3964 posted:Netflix should have just picked up Moonbeam City.
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Mokinokaro posted:Moonbeam City varied fairly heavily between episodes. Yeah, but on a whole I loved the aesthetic and all of the voice actors having a ball in their roles. It was fun enough for me to keep watching.
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bull3964 posted:Yeah, but on a whole I loved the aesthetic and all of the voice actors having a ball in their roles. It was fun enough for me to keep watching. Yeah it was a fun show. It's my favorite cancelled show from last year.
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I liked Moonbeam City, even though I knew it was gonna be canceled when Comedy Central booted new episodes to 1am. It didn't really end up being an Archer ripoff, either, although you can be forgiven for thinking that after watching the first couple of episodes. The last episode was just an excuse for Tommy Blancha to do his Pickles voice again. I didn't bother watching the clip of Pacific Heat, but the screenshots alone look like a two-bit ripoff of Archer. AV Club review posted:...every character looks like they were drawn by someone whose only reference to human anatomy was one of those old How To Draw Manga Characters books.
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