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Tunicate
May 15, 2012

FuturePastNow posted:

I still see people standing around with dozens of those temporary buffs running. Always just standing around, they're never actually doing anything that would benefit from the buffs. I figured it's a very dumb form of showing off.

Sounds like doff alts

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MREBoy
Mar 14, 2005

MREs - They're whats for breakfast, lunch AND dinner !
found via reddit:



:stonkhat: :stonk: :distonk: :stonklol:

Post it was in was from a pub & was titled "is it possible to break 1K damage with any beam weapon?" I wonder how long it took to get that thing to its final mastery unlock. I bet it's people like this that keep Cryptic afloat.

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


I suspect that person was looking at the number on the tooltip for the weapons, which low information players think means something, and not an actual DPS parse. Still an awful build, though I've seen far worse.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

MREBoy posted:

found via reddit:



:stonkhat: :stonk: :distonk: :stonklol:

Post it was in was from a pub & was titled "is it possible to break 1K damage with any beam weapon?" I wonder how long it took to get that thing to its final mastery unlock. I bet it's people like this that keep Cryptic afloat.

That's positively top tier compared to most pubbie horror show builds.

It's still garbage but at least there was some thought put into it. Probably doesn't know about power settings, etc.

Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal
Yeah other than the rear end torp, it seems reasonable for a fleetless spacepoor. Like that's more or less what I'd run on an alt I didn't want to spend dil on, except I wouldn't have upgraded the crap to mk 15.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

MREBoy posted:

found via reddit:



:stonkhat: :stonk: :distonk: :stonklol:

Post it was in was from a pub & was titled "is it possible to break 1K damage with any beam weapon?" I wonder how long it took to get that thing to its final mastery unlock. I bet it's people like this that keep Cryptic afloat.

Honesty it doesn’t take that much time. Back after VIL I was doing a single tholian or borg or whatever the ship exp grind was under the old queue system a day and iirc I got two of them unlocked before I got bored and just stopped even logging in to refine dill. I want to say I was getting a ship from zero to max in about two or three weeks at that pace.

It would be hell to just grind but if you did five minutes of pew pew a day it wasn’t any worse than logging in for a holiday event or whatever. Same time commitment and you get an account wide ship at the end of about the same number of days.

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Is Borg Turret "beam" still an acceptable addition when building a beamboat?

Preechr
May 19, 2009

Proud member of the Pony-Brony Alliance for Obama as President
It’s been power creeped, but it’s ok.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I think it fucks up weapon cycles but I can't confirm because I don't remember the last time I logged into STO and it wasn't laggy.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Nah it's fine, it's just not a very exciting weapon these days. Power levels have been power creeped enough that the 2-piece proc is less critical, and if you want kinetic damage you're probably better off with torpedoes because big burst damage instead of a slow trickle is generally better even in PVE, and torps can potentially have weapon skills boosting them depending on your loadout while the cutting beam can't. Also the meta swinging over to cannons means they're easier to use since you're going to be pointing your nose at the target anyway.

I mean like everything else in the game though it's still perfectly fine as long as you keep the mark up to date. :effort:

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
So, uh, I finished the mission A Step Between Stars on an alt in the double xp weekend, and now the Dyson Sphere Gateway system has completely disappeared from the map. Can't progress the campaign or get to the Delta Quadrant for the next arc.

Already tried relogging.

RescueFreak
Sep 8, 2013

Really wish they didn't lock all the cool poo poo behind stupid loot boxes.

A T6 refit is like $250 in keys. I would whale out but I'm going to lose interest in this game before it would be come worth it.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

RescueFreak posted:

Really wish they didn't lock all the cool poo poo behind stupid loot boxes.

A T6 refit is like $250 in keys. I would whale out but I'm going to lose interest in this game before it would be come worth it.

It’s also extremely not worth it. If you’re desperate to fly a Constitution, check out the Kelvin timeline Heavy Cruiser (the JJPrise) or the Vengeance, which is an upscaled Connie with one of the best seating and weapon layouts in the game. You can also grab the Reliant from Wrath of Khan or T6 versions of the Ambassador Class, Galaxy Class, or Sovereign Class in the C-Store. You could in theory buy a T6 Excelsior but it sucks so don’t.

Basically you can fly every canon ship but the Constitution relatively cheaply and I assume that’s the way their revenue model wants it.

E: Comedy option: buy a T1 Constitution and fly it in STFs. Post a parse in which you outdamage every other pubbie in your team and win a prize!

fakemirage
Nov 6, 2012

Can't see the haters.
While its layout doesn't conform with the meta, the current winter event ship is a rather entertaining looking ship.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/231772385836007424/528158182011568148/hotrodtake3.mp4

They also forgot to scale the ship properly in sector space, so it's bigger than an Enterprise J while you're moving between planets.

fakemirage fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Dec 28, 2018

Technical Analysis
Nov 21, 2007

I got 99 problems but the British ain't one.

Coq au Nandos posted:

E: Comedy option: buy a T1 Constitution and fly it in STFs. Post a parse in which you outdamage every other pubbie in your team and win a prize!

This isn't exactly difficult. Pugs are notoriously poo poo, and a T1 ship using gimmick consoles can easily out DPS a pug STF. Hell, I took a T1 NX into a PvP match with some poo poo talking pubbie a few months back. The poor bastard had a cloak and should have had me dead to rights, I almost felt bad for him.

RescueFreak
Sep 8, 2013

So they removed a bunch of missions and featured episodes?

I need the Breen Invasion one, but can't find any way to start it.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

RescueFreak posted:

So they removed a bunch of missions and featured episodes?

I need the Breen Invasion one, but can't find any way to start it.

Open your log of available quests, not the episode menu.

The episodes were heavily streamlined for new characters to differentiate the different faction campaigns and get more of the later arcs like Delta Rising and whatnot brought into the normal leveling pathway instead of being post-cap.

AGGGGH BEES
Apr 28, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Asimo posted:

Nah it's fine, it's just not a very exciting weapon these days. Power levels have been power creeped enough that the 2-piece proc is less critical, and if you want kinetic damage you're probably better off with torpedoes because big burst damage instead of a slow trickle is generally better even in PVE, and torps can potentially have weapon skills boosting them depending on your loadout while the cutting beam can't. Also the meta swinging over to cannons means they're easier to use since you're going to be pointing your nose at the target anyway.

I mean like everything else in the game though it's still perfectly fine as long as you keep the mark up to date. :effort:

As an addendum to this, the Borg -console- is still very much worth using.

RescueFreak
Sep 8, 2013

Cythereal posted:

Open your log of available quests, not the episode menu.

The episodes were heavily streamlined for new characters to differentiate the different faction campaigns and get more of the later arcs like Delta Rising and whatnot brought into the normal leveling pathway instead of being post-cap.

I looked for it under Available but it wasn't there.

Was only 60 at the time, once I hit 65 it showed up.

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo
There are a lot of people that use armor, traits, specializations and gear that provides a bonus if they're crouching in Q's winter wonderland.

Party amplifiers break crouch. This is especially fun for the snowball fight when a bunch of people line up on that hill over the huge snowman spawn point.

https://sto.gamepedia.com/Ability:_Crouch

Violent Kitten
Dec 26, 2011

Dearmad bhean
an ti ag an gcat.
Hey, if anyone purchased the steamrunner pack years ago through Steam is unable to claim it on newer alts, send a support ticket.
Only the bundle with two ships and none of the extras (the two uncommon boffs with gear, the Steam Powered title and the 1000xp booster) is available, but I'd have to buy it again to get the ships.

I just got 2500zen added to my account.

Obviously, I'm going to keep this free zen for another sale.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.
Some absolute madman has spent time methodically testing and parsing the DPS of hanger pets on a single, shielded target. Read the whole thing here.

Highlights:

- Elite Aeon Timeships appear to be the best pet in the game, outdamaging even Romulan Drone Frigates.
- Your best bet for a hanger pet that won’t set you back the price of a lockbox ship is Elite Obelisk Swarmers, likely followed by Elite Peregrines or Tu’Doj fighters.
- The author notes that the circumstances of the test probably work against the Tholian Meshweaver frigate, which is great at AOE debuffing.
- We’ve known that Callisto Frigates are broken for a while, but in the test the elites parsed lower than rare Peregrine fighters. That’s embarrassing for a pet locked behind a paywall.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


The fact that test was against a heavily shielded target is :lol: since most of fighter damage is usually from their torpedoes due to their lovely weapon power level. It's interesting to see compiled, but it's basically useless in practice. It also neglects the damage lost when fighters die whenever something sneezes in their direction.

Timeships have definitely been underrated though and I used them a lit on ships without frigates.

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Asimo posted:

The fact that test was against a heavily shielded target is :lol: since most of fighter damage is usually from their torpedoes due to their lovely weapon power level. It's interesting to see compiled, but it's basically useless in practice. It also neglects the damage lost when fighters die whenever something sneezes in their direction.

Timeships have definitely been underrated though and I used them a lit on ships without frigates.

It also ignores fighter buffs like Scramble Fighters and Wing Commander. Checking again, I notice that the JH Vanguard frigates scored pretty well at the rare level, but weren't purchased at UR or VR. Based on the rare numbers, they could be pretty competitive.

fakemirage
Nov 6, 2012

Can't see the haters.

:toot:

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

So was I not supposed to name one of my alts Emergency Lesbian Hologram?

Teron D Amun
Oct 9, 2010

Coq au Nandos posted:

It also ignores fighter buffs like Scramble Fighters and Wing Commander. Checking again, I notice that the JH Vanguard frigates scored pretty well at the rare level, but weren't purchased at UR or VR. Based on the rare numbers, they could be pretty competitive.

not to mention that a test against a stationary target completely ignores how lovely the pet AI is having to position themselves when using cannons or any weapons with restricted targeting angles

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Teron D Amun posted:

not to mention that a test against a stationary target completely ignores how lovely the pet AI is having to position themselves when using cannons or any weapons with restricted targeting angles

And yet the Callistos still shat the bed.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I haven't run a parser since season 5 so take this with a grain of salt but I'm pretty sure anecdotally that the elite Kelvin drone hanger you can equip on the Vengeance is pretty great at damage output.

During mirror events those little suckers would actually nuke whole ships by themselves in a single pass.

AGGGGH BEES
Apr 28, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Teron D Amun posted:

not to mention that a test against a stationary target completely ignores how lovely the pet AI is having to position themselves when using cannons or any weapons with restricted targeting angles

This is why I like the Elachi frigs, because they'll teleport themselves behind a target intermittently.

Pioneer42
Jun 8, 2010
Don’t Baltims have that same ability?

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Pioneer42 posted:

Don’t Baltims have that same ability?

They do, but between buying the Baltim raider and the Vonph to field two hangers of the pets you're looking at 600-700m EC to do it. And by the looks of things, you'd still be better loading up your hanger with Peregrines or Aeons.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
I saw a couple of newbies in goon chat today asking about what a good, readily available (not incredibly expensive on the exchange) ship at tier 5 is for a newbie. So, a brief little guide. Note that Klingon and Romulan ships on the exchange are almost invariably more expensive than the neutral and Federation ships.


Do you want to fly a...

Cruiser?

The best choice is probably going to be the D'Kora, available to all factions for a budget price (as these things go) on the exchange. Keep the battle mode console on until you're ready to kit out with something better.

Federation players, also consider the Mirror Universe Heavy Cruiser Retrofit also available on the exchange. It has a ltcom sci slot instead of the D'Kora's ltcom tac slot. The tac is generally preferable, but this thing's not a bad choice for a newbie tier 5 on a budget, either.

Klingons, consider the Mirror Universe Negh'var Heavy Battle Cruiser. It's a copy/paste of the above ship with that cloaking device Klingons love.

Romulans, the D'deridex Warbird Battle Cruiser Retrofit available with the level 52 token is available later than these three above, but is superior to all of them in every way except handling. Sorry, but the Double D still flies like a pig, but it has solid seating and decent consoles.

Escort?

Look no further than the Nicor, available to all factions at reasonable prices on the exchange. It has everything you want out of an escort, and has one extra tac console (always good) over any of the options below.

Federation, the Mirror Universe Escort Retrofit is a fine alternative. Has one less tac console, though, so its damage potential will always be a bit less than the Nicor.

Klingons, the Mirror Universe Somraw Retrofit is a copy/paste of the above ship and just as good. If you're into birds of prey (Godspeed you lunatic), you want the Mirror Universe Ki'tang Bird of Prey Retrofit. This one's likely to be more expensive than the other choices in this section, but it's the best bopper you can buy with ec.

Romulans, the Mirror Universe Mogai Heavy Warbird Retrofit is a good escort if you don't want the Nicor.

Science Vessel?

The Tholian Orb Weaver is a cheap and very solid science vessel that will fit all your space magic needs.

There is an alternative, though, the Lukari N'Kaam Scout Ship. The Orb Weaver's stats are superior in most respects, but the N'Kaam can equip dual [heavy] cannons and has the Raider Flanking perk, so it's worth a look if you want to try that style on top of your space magic.

These two ships are uncontested by any of the freebies or Mirror Universe ships available on the exchange, though for the Romulans, the Ha'nom Guardian Warbird and for Feds, the Recon Science Vessel come close (they critically lack a ltcom tac slot next to the Orb Weaver and N'Kaam but have the same number of tac consoles). Both are also free at level 40, so there's that.

Carrier?

If you're a Klingon, grab your free Vo'Quv at 40, or if you're a Klingon or Klingon-allied Dominion, get the Kar'fi with your level 52 token. These are sadly the only readily available carrier options.

Teron D Amun
Oct 9, 2010

quote:

Mirror of Discovery also brings back the Omega Molecule Stabilization event, in celebration of Star Trek Online’s 9th anniversary. Players can collect Omega particles scattered across the galaxy to earn the new T6 Vulcan Scout Ship, which was featured in Star Trek: Discovery. The update also introduces the new Personal Endeavors System, which offers players daily challenges to complete for account-wide performance boosts. A full list of features will be provided when Mirror of Discovery launches on PC January 23.

A T6 Vulcan ship as the anniversary ship? For KDF too? thats a ...huh

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Teron D Amun posted:

A T6 Vulcan ship as the anniversary ship? For KDF too? thats a ...huh

Glorious battle is a logical end in itself, captain.

This is the Vulcan ship from STD:

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




Teron D Amun posted:

A T6 Vulcan ship as the anniversary ship? For KDF too? thats a ...huh

Yeah, I'd have thought they'd try to get one of those horrendous Klingon designs from Disco in.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Technowolf posted:

Yeah, I'd have thought they'd try to get one of those horrendous Klingon designs from Disco in.

I would have bet on a Crossfield. You know, the USS Discovery for the Discovery themed expansion.

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

Cythereal posted:

I would have bet on a Crossfield. You know, the USS Discovery for the Discovery themed expansion.
They already have a crossfield. It's in a lockbox, so start saving up your EC.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

g0del posted:

They already have a crossfield. It's in a lockbox, so start saving up your EC.

The Walker was in a lockbox, too, then they added one to the z-store (that only scales up to t4, mind).

And the Crossfield's an ugly looking piece of poo poo, so no. I'd take one as an admiralty token, then discharge it.

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Mondian
Apr 24, 2007

Walker is lobi

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