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Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

luchadornado posted:

I regret learning lefty for a lot of reasons. I'd recommend anyone new really try righty first, and only give up if lefty totally feels correct.

I'll never find a tangerine burst les Paul in lefty :smith:

I feel that. I certainly regret the guitars I'll never get to play. But at the same time, I wouldn't do anything differently. If it's good enough for Hendrix, Iommi, Cobain, and McCartney, it's surely good enough for me.

And admittedly I suppose I am a weird not fully left-hand dominant sort of lefty. I throw/bat/sports stuff right handed (probably because I learned that way)
I can bowl either hand
but writing and I guess guitar are things that just felt super lefthand dominant for me since the start

Also how many other lefties out there thought they just really loving sucked at cutting things until they got their first pair of lefthanded scissors
I can't be the only one

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A Small Beetle
Apr 15, 2006

Huxley posted:

See, all that is good to know. I was somehow under the impression that learning righty was just something you did out of necessity and that most people who did would have preferred learning "properly."

If I can just advise them to go get an Affinity and an amp, it'll make things a lot easier.

I’m left handed, learned righty as a kid, I don’t think it occurred to anyone at the time that was any other way.

After a thirty year hiatus I’m starting again, learning lefty this time. Overall, I don’t feel like it makes a huge difference either way, but I’m not regretting my decision.

One advantage to playing left handed is it helps keep GAS in check.

I got started with a left handed affinity tele. I like it, and still play it a fair bit.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

A Small Beetle posted:

I’m left handed, learned righty as a kid, I don’t think it occurred to anyone at the time that was any other way.

After a thirty year hiatus I’m starting again, learning lefty this time. Overall, I don’t feel like it makes a huge difference either way, but I’m not regretting my decision.

One advantage to playing left handed is it helps keep GAS in check.

I got started with a left handed affinity tele. I like it, and still play it a fair bit.

I'd say it makes the GAS worse if for no other reason than when you see something rare come up on the used market your brain is all "you'll never loving see that thing again you have to buy it right now"

which is how I end up with all my gear

A Small Beetle
Apr 15, 2006

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

I'd say it makes the GAS worse if for no other reason than when you see something rare come up on the used market your brain is all "you'll never loving see that thing again you have to buy it right now"

which is how I end up with all my gear

Fair point. Earlier this very evening I had to remind myself I don’t need, and cannot afford that left G & L strat that was linked to on the previous page.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

A Small Beetle posted:

Fair point. Earlier this very evening I had to remind myself I don’t need, and cannot afford that left G & L strat that was linked to on the previous page.

Yeah, you’ll just seek what you can’t get off the rack from the custom shop

widefault
Mar 16, 2009
One of the my best friends is a lefty and plays, so I'm always on the look out and sending him stuff, but he never buys any of it because he has good self control.

Which brings me to this for the lefties

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/Squier/2020s-Stractocaster-Electric-Guitar.gc

Pretty sure that's a lefty Classic Vibe 60s Squier, used good condition, for $187, shipping is usually another ~$20

Also, there are a surprising number of left handed guitars that come up on ShopGoodwill.com , although mostly lower end stuff. Still, sub $100 off-brand lefty Strat copies could be a deal if you don't mind a little work getting them setup.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
https://youtu.be/BVfpzkd3ZDA

Beato got a Gibson signature LP

screw a hot tub, time to get the Hey Soul Strat cloned by Fender

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat



bought one of these IYV guitars on a whim cuz I like the feeling of pressing buy.

It's really good. Needs strings and a good cleaning and anything else a shipped guitar needs but that's it.

electronics are nothing special but everything works.

I won't judge the tuners until I get some decent strings on there and stretched out.

It's super light. Wayyyy lighter than my ibanez semi hollow.

tacky fretboard inlay is well done. frets feel good no sprouts.

Between this and my eart I can highly recommend buying random branded guitars off the internet for a couple of hundred bucks.


e : I call it the PR-esque

good jovi
Dec 11, 2000

Ok Comboomer posted:

https://youtu.be/BVfpzkd3ZDA

Beato got a Gibson signature LP

screw a hot tub, time to get the Hey Soul Strat cloned by Fender

I don't understand why Gibson is so stingy with the Double Cut Les Paul shape. It's the best. I'm not paying $2k for that, but a DC LP with P90s is basically my dream guitar at this point.

Doctor Dogballs
Apr 1, 2007

driving the fuck truck from hand land to pound town without stopping at suction station


i cant believe Beato got a signature guitar. why on earth

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
dc's are nice to play good fret access for noodles

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

if there’s one thing gibson is great at, it’s definitely their business decisions

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Doctor Dogballs posted:

i cant believe Beato got a signature guitar. why on earth

well you see the Gibson signature line is a lot more diverse and interesting than Fender’s

they’ve got Slash, now they’ve got Rick, and also Slash, and

mweber
Dec 24, 2003

The Fear posted:




bought one of these IYV guitars on a whim cuz I like the feeling of pressing buy.

It's really good. Needs strings and a good cleaning and anything else a shipped guitar needs but that's it.

electronics are nothing special but everything works.

I won't judge the tuners until I get some decent strings on there and stretched out.

It's super light. Wayyyy lighter than my ibanez semi hollow.

tacky fretboard inlay is well done. frets feel good no sprouts.

Between this and my eart I can highly recommend buying random branded guitars off the internet for a couple of hundred bucks.


e : I call it the PR-esque

“On account of autocorrect, you’re Ivy Guitars now.”

—Amazon

mweber fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Sep 15, 2022

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

Doctor Dogballs posted:

i cant believe Beato got a signature guitar. why on earth

They know their customer base

e: Lol the most modern player they have for a signature model is Dave Mustaine. They are all in on boomer nostalgia, Beato is a perfect fit

800peepee51doodoo fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Sep 15, 2022

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Folks still love a 335 but the LPs are definitely out of style
or at least the gibson ones are

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005
the beato guitar does look nice though

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Folks still love a 335 but the LPs are definitely out of style
or at least the gibson ones are

SGs seem to be having a moment. I don't know, I guess Gibson doesn't need to sell many guitars when selling 2 or 3 a month would feed a family of 86 kids with tapeworms.

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005
SGs should always be popular because of ian mackaye / Fugazi

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

Disco Pope posted:

SGs seem to be having a moment. I don't know, I guess Gibson doesn't need to sell many guitars when selling 2 or 3 a month would feed a family of 86 kids with tapeworms.

SGs own, best guitar ever. Gibsons in general are rad, iconic guitars but the company is a mess that's relying exclusively on boomer dollars in a market that makes little sense. I'm always looking through the craigslist music section and the with the number of used LPs that flood the market, it is wild to me that they can hold any value at all. There's just so many of them. But that kind of thing is never rational I guess.

Re Gibson pricing: Gibsons are only produced in the US and USA made Fenders are comparable in price. Fender puts their name on guitars made in non-US factories so the average pricing for Fender branded instruments is lower than Gibson branded instruments. Its a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. Doesn't make the Gibsons any more affordable, though, that's for sure

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

800peepee51doodoo posted:

SGs own, best guitar ever. Gibsons in general are rad, iconic guitars but the company is a mess that's relying exclusively on boomer dollars in a market that makes little sense. I'm always looking through the craigslist music section and the with the number of used LPs that flood the market, it is wild to me that they can hold any value at all. There's just so many of them. But that kind of thing is never rational I guess.

Re Gibson pricing: Gibsons are only produced in the US and USA made Fenders are comparable in price. Fender puts their name on guitars made in non-US factories so the average pricing for Fender branded instruments is lower than Gibson branded instruments. Its a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. Doesn't make the Gibsons any more affordable, though, that's for sure

I know, I'm just being a goofball because I'm unlikely to own an SG any time soon.

Their marketing is kind of wild though, Fender is kind of eating their lunch connecting with new players, while Gibson seems to think 60yr old dentists are immortal.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

Disco Pope posted:

Fender is kind of eating their lunch connecting with new players, while Gibson seems to think 60yr old dentists are immortal.

:hmmyes:

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005
when i was in high school there was a blues shredder guy who i thought was sooo loving cool, and he played a les paul. whereas i was stuck slumming with my beautiful american strat. i was seriously so jealous for absolutely no reason

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

800peepee51doodoo posted:

SGs own, best guitar ever. Gibsons in general are rad, iconic guitars but the company is a mess that's relying exclusively on boomer dollars in a market that makes little sense. I'm always looking through the craigslist music section and the with the number of used LPs that flood the market, it is wild to me that they can hold any value at all. There's just so many of them. But that kind of thing is never rational I guess.

Re Gibson pricing: Gibsons are only produced in the US and USA made Fenders are comparable in price. Fender puts their name on guitars made in non-US factories so the average pricing for Fender branded instruments is lower than Gibson branded instruments. Its a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. Doesn't make the Gibsons any more affordable, though, that's for sure

While they still exist everybody here needs to buy one of the $400 TV Yellow Epiphone LP Specials

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Ok Comboomer posted:

While they still exist everybody here needs to buy one of the $400 TV Yellow Epiphone LP Specials

Agreed, but also my partner's dad has a Gibson one and it would be weird.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune
Since Rick Beato came up, I have to take a second to vomit up all of my hate towards this boomer-brained shill. I discovered a little while ago that I just straight up despise this guy and everything he does when I was looking up some video explanations of the circle of fifths. At some point I realized I didn't really know how it worked even though I thought I had a general gist of the idea. So I went looking for some tutorials. His "one hour music theory" video was nothing but him showing vague representations of theory ideas while shouting "do you see how this works?!?!" followed by an extended ad for all of his books and lesson programs. He constantly does the carny grifter trick of showing off his ear training by identifying chords by ear and immediately going into ad copy about how you too can do this if you just buy all of his poo poo. The majority of his music theory "lessons" were "buy stuff, from me". It drives me up the wall. There's nothing I dislike more than a shameless self-promoter and gate keeper. Also he constantly whines about Youtube demonitization, which normally I would agree with but from him is just obvious greed and entitlement. I hate him so much lmao.

Incidentally, I found a really good tutorial from a very nice lady that explains music theory as if you are a toddler and it rules. Its actually useful knowledge presented well.

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011
Beato produced one lovely #1 pop country song in 2005 or some poo poo and that's his crowning life accomplishment that he could never recreate, so now he just makes boomertastic clickbait videos that appeal to people who think Ben Shapiro has a point about rap not being music. Partnering with Gibson is a perfect self-explanatory damnation of everyone involved.

If anything, Pat Finnerty is too light on him.

JamesKPolk
Apr 9, 2009

a.p. dent posted:

SGs should always be popular because of ian mackaye / Fugazi

legit not sure if this is a great joke about their whole diy thing (trying to imagine a mackaye signature guitar and lolling) or i'm just Out Of Step w/ the minor threat fandom in 2022

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005

JamesKPolk posted:

legit not sure if this is a great joke about their whole diy thing (trying to imagine a mackaye signature guitar and lolling) or i'm just Out Of Step w/ the minor threat fandom in 2022

no joke, ian just always played the same cream colored SG and i thought it looked cool. giving him a signature guitar would be really funny though

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

I've watched a handful of Beato videos and they all seemed to be of the "guy talks for ten minutes and says nothing" variety so I stopped clicking on them.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
My thoughts on Gibson are that I would like an es335. Also my sparkly pink Epiphone SG is very good

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

800peepee51doodoo posted:

Since Rick Beato came up, I have to take a second to vomit up all of my hate towards this boomer-brained shill. I discovered a little while ago that I just straight up despise this guy and everything he does when I was looking up some video explanations of the circle of fifths. At some point I realized I didn't really know how it worked even though I thought I had a general gist of the idea. So I went looking for some tutorials. His "one hour music theory" video was nothing but him showing vague representations of theory ideas while shouting "do you see how this works?!?!" followed by an extended ad for all of his books and lesson programs. He constantly does the carny grifter trick of showing off his ear training by identifying chords by ear and immediately going into ad copy about how you too can do this if you just buy all of his poo poo. The majority of his music theory "lessons" were "buy stuff, from me". It drives me up the wall. There's nothing I dislike more than a shameless self-promoter and gate keeper. Also he constantly whines about Youtube demonitization, which normally I would agree with but from him is just obvious greed and entitlement. I hate him so much lmao.

Incidentally, I found a really good tutorial from a very nice lady that explains music theory as if you are a toddler and it rules. Its actually useful knowledge presented well.

If you want good music theory YouTube, check out Jake at Signals Music Studio.

He also does a few great Q&A livestreams on his Patreon every month, highly recommended if you have a few bucks to throw at him.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

ColdPie posted:

I've watched a handful of Beato videos and they all seemed to be of the "guy talks for ten minutes and says nothing" variety so I stopped clicking on them.

He did a sit down with the guy from Tool recently, so checks out.

a.p. dent posted:

no joke, ian just always played the same cream colored SG and i thought it looked cool. giving him a signature guitar would be really funny though

Greg Sage from Wipers too, and the guy from Dry Cleaning makes them seem cool as gently caress.

Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Sep 15, 2022

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005
i thought beato's "theory for songwriters" was good, but that may be because i already knew a decent amount of theory going in

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

Disco Pope posted:

I know, I'm just being a goofball because I'm unlikely to own an SG any time soon.

Their marketing is kind of wild though, Fender is kind of eating their lunch connecting with new players, while Gibson seems to think 60yr old dentists are immortal.

fender actually does a great job of this yeah.

i’ve seen a lot of posts from people in small bands that most guitar brands just don’t even really try to market to post about how gender hooked them up. posts from like, snail mail, soccer mommy, and mitski about how gender sent them guitars.

meanwhile gibson is mostly concerned with marketing to the 50 year old men who would hear one of them playing and call them “firecrackers”

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

800peepee51doodoo posted:

SGs own, best guitar ever. Gibsons in general are rad, iconic guitars but the company is a mess that's relying exclusively on boomer dollars in a market that makes little sense. I'm always looking through the craigslist music section and the with the number of used LPs that flood the market, it is wild to me that they can hold any value at all. There's just so many of them. But that kind of thing is never rational I guess.

Re Gibson pricing: Gibsons are only produced in the US and USA made Fenders are comparable in price. Fender puts their name on guitars made in non-US factories so the average pricing for Fender branded instruments is lower than Gibson branded instruments. Its a bit of an apples to oranges comparison. Doesn't make the Gibsons any more affordable, though, that's for sure

i see what you’re saying here but i feel like it’s mostly branding if you consider that gibson QC is completely awful.

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005

landgrabber posted:

fender actually does a great job of this yeah.

i’ve seen a lot of posts from people in small bands that most guitar brands just don’t even really try to market to post about how gender hooked them up. posts from like, snail mail, soccer mommy, and mitski about how gender sent them guitars.

meanwhile gibson is mostly concerned with marketing to the 50 year old men who would hear one of them playing and call them “firecrackers”

gender guitar

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!
https://youtu.be/XG5zZ6DPV8g

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

a.p. dent posted:

gender guitar

lmao goddamnit.

i've been... venting to some friends lately about transition. iOS must've picked up on it :v:

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800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

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a.p. dent posted:

i thought beato's "theory for songwriters" was good, but that may be because i already knew a decent amount of theory going in

He knows his stuff, but I feel like I only understood what he was talking about with basic theory because I already knew it myself, for the most part. He's a terrible teacher. Reminds me of some of my professors that would get upset that we didn't intuitively understand complex concepts after brief explanations because they did this stuff everyday for decades and it seemed self evident to them. On the plus side, my professors didn't spend 60% of class time shilling their books.

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