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The MSJ posted:And Bay is apparently a Coen brothers fan, judging from a few actors who were in his movies and of course Pain & Gain. Who isn't a Coen Brothers fan?
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 13:56 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Who isn't a Coen Brothers fan? I was gonna say.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 14:38 |
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Me.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 14:51 |
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Get him.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 14:58 |
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mods ban pls
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 16:16 |
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 16:17 |
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There aren't very many instances of directors putting other directors down these days, I guess it's poor form. If they're asked a question about someone in the biz they'll say something nice or nothing at all.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 16:20 |
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:There aren't very many instances of directors putting other directors down these days, I guess it's poor form. That's just people being people though. Or at least not assholes.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 16:24 |
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It absolutely is. I like Raising Arizona, their True Grit, and Hail Caesar. All their other movies I just can't stand. I've seen all of them too, because a lot of people whose tastes are otherwise similar to my own say 'You have to see this one..." and three times they've been right.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 16:38 |
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All Coen Bros. movies require repeated viewing to appreciate. I didn't like Big Lebowski the first time then I read the script which is a pro click. Man that movie is hilarious.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 18:55 |
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Barton Fink is too weird for me, but it's so hard to dislike the Coen Brothers' mainstream stuff. True Grit and No Country for Old Men are so plainly compelling.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 19:06 |
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:There aren't very many instances of directors putting other directors down these days, I guess it's poor form. quote:So how does Innaritu actually feel about superhero movies? Would he perhaps take one on in the future? Fat chance. In an interview with Deadline last night, the filmmaker railed against the genre, essentially calling it soulless and sounding not too different from Mike Shiner—Ed Norton’s purist character, who also tears into the super hero movies and soulless paycheck gigs. quote:The Guardian asked Robert Downey Jr. about the comments, and as per usual, he had a quip ready in his pocket. “Look, I respect the heck out of him [and] for a man whose native tongue is Spanish to be able to put together a phrase like ‘cultural genocide’ just speaks to how bright he is,” the actor retorted.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 19:14 |
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Hail Ceaser loving sucks.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 19:41 |
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Vintersorg posted:Hail Ceaser loving sucks. Nah Hail, Caesar! is very legit but you kinda have to be a big fan of old-school Hollywood to really appreciate it. Like Burn After Reading, it's a solid 9/10 as opposed to their usual 10/10.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 20:54 |
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:There aren't very many instances of directors putting other directors down these days, I guess it's poor form. http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/interviews/oshii_on_mt.html "Porco Rosso-- In short, it's a personal novel (shi shyousetsu).[3] He (Miya-san as Porco?) put on such airs and spoke such flashy lines, posing as a pirate, but that's all self-excusing. I think it would have been good if the ending was such that he took off the pig's head, and Miya-san's face showed up underneath it, (saying) "I'm sorry." I think it would have been a fine film if the hero was a pig who could only say "Oink Oink," but he was very good at air battles. "
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 21:03 |
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Yeah. I liked the RDJ Iñárritu beef though. drat, and Downey should know better, his first big break was with Chaplin ffs!
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 21:44 |
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effectual posted:drat, and Downey should know better, his first big break was with Chaplin ffs! quote:Chatting with EW, Downey Jr., who spent his comeback back years making a string of smaller movies both at the indie and studio level ("The Singing Detective," "A Guide To Recognizing Your Saints," "A Scanner Darkly," "Charlie Bartlett," "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang," "Goodnight And Good Luck"), expressed he has zero desire to go off and make a tiny film, working on a shoestring budget. And he had some very harsh words about that world and being a part of a movie on that level.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 21:48 |
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Independent filmmakers can be the biggest assholes you've ever seen, he's not entirely wrong. There are some good movies in there though. edit: effectual posted:drat, and Downey should know better, his first big break was with Also Weird Science honestly. kiimo fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Aug 7, 2016 |
# ? Aug 7, 2016 22:26 |
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Hat Thoughts posted:Ya I remember where Neill Blomkamp talked about really liking Michael Bay to the interviewers annoyance quote:But Bay’s movies have no message, I protest. “Elysium doesn’t have a message either,” Blomkamp says with a laugh. ...is he taking the piss? Elysium is about as sledgehammer-blunt as Message Movies get.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 23:55 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:...is he taking the piss? Elysium is about as sledgehammer-blunt as Message Movies get. Verhofen often said stuff like that in interviews.
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# ? Aug 7, 2016 23:56 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:...is he taking the piss? Elysium is about as sledgehammer-blunt as Message Movies get. Yah, I think he's saying even Bay films (and all art) have some message. Or he's just loving with the reporter for asking a gotcha question
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 00:19 |
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"The problem is that sometimes they purport to be profound, based on some Greek mythological kind of thing. And they are honestly very right wing. I always see them as killing people because they do not believe in what you believe, or they are not being who you want them to be." ..has this guy ever read Greek mythology? That's pretty much half of it (the other half is rape).
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 00:44 |
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I'm not sure that detracts from his point at all
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 01:27 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:...is he taking the piss? Elysium is about as sledgehammer-blunt as Message Movies get. A lot of directors say stuff like that for w/e reason, definitely an efficient way to dodge someone trying to make an argument about the film from their words.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 02:39 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Verhofen often said stuff like that in interviews. Verhoeven?
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 03:26 |
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Wandle Cax posted:Verhoeven? My phone always autocorrects it to Verhofen.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 03:49 |
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kiimo posted:All Coen Bros. movies require repeated viewing to appreciate. I have never once seen a review say "you can't properly appreciate this movie on a first viewing" without it meaning "this movie is actually kinda poo poo but I won't admit it". For me the Coen brothers are very hit and miss, and of late it's been all misses. Some time around O Brother, Where Art Thou they lost the art of making great movies but counterbalanced it by attracting great casts.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 08:13 |
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Jedit posted:I have never once seen a review say "you can't properly appreciate this movie on a first viewing" without it meaning "this movie is actually kinda poo poo but I won't admit it". Yeah, like the notoriously "not a great film" No Country for Old Men.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 08:26 |
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Jedit posted:For me the Coen brothers are very hit and miss, and of late it's been all misses. Some time around O Brother, Where Art Thou they lost the art of making great movies but counterbalanced it by attracting great casts. On the other hand, The Coen Brothers have literally only had one bad movie.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 08:39 |
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^^^ The Ladykillers, perchance? LordPants posted:Yeah, like the notoriously "not a great film" No Country for Old Men. I didn't like that movie, but I'm not sure you're meant to. It also doesn't end, it just stops. I don't know if that's a fault with the book, but it felt to me like the movie had run out of things to say and nobody knew how to wrap it up. Definitely a great cast, though.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Verhofen often said stuff like that in interviews. Really? In the interviews I've read he seems more concerned about people not getting that people dressed like SS-officers are meant to be the bad guy.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 19:02 |
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Alhazred posted:Really? In the interviews I've read he seems more concerned about people not getting that people dressed like SS-officers are meant to be the bad guy. I swear I'm not misremembering that he liked to be cheeky like that in the 90's.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 19:06 |
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Jedit posted:^^^ The Ladykillers, perchance? That movie has one of my favorite endings, I love it. The only better ending in their canon is the ending to A Serious Man, which is so goddamn good.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 20:08 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:...is he taking the piss? Elysium is about as sledgehammer-blunt as Message Movies get. If I remember correctly, with Elysium, Blomkamp would insist that the movie was apolitical to US interviewers, but would happily talk about the political themes elsewhere.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 20:12 |
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The ending to No Country left me just kind of stunned when I sat in the theater, but it didn't feel wrong or unsatisfying.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 20:15 |
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davidspackage posted:The ending to No Country left me just kind of stunned when I sat in the theater, but it didn't feel wrong or unsatisfying. And then you woke up.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 20:17 |
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Hand Knit posted:If I remember correctly, with Elysium, Blomkamp would insist that the movie was apolitical to US interviewers, but would happily talk about the political themes elsewhere. I just remember the Sony leak having PowerPoint slides about Elysium not getting "too political" or something. How such a thing could be possible given the premise....
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 20:49 |
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Jedit posted:I have never once seen a review say "you can't properly appreciate this movie on a first viewing" without it meaning "this movie is actually kinda poo poo but I won't admit it". Are you for real? Like, do you think you're supposed to "get" what's great about a Beethoven symphony the first time you hear it? It can take a lifetime of listening to fully appreciate the nuance in a piece of music. Film is no different. You're perfectly entitled to dislike any movie you want, for any reason you want, but don't assume that people are lying when they claim to like something. It's beyond my comprehension that you'd actually think that this is a widespread behavior.
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# ? Aug 8, 2016 23:25 |
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davidspackage posted:The ending to No Country left me just kind of stunned when I sat in the theater, but it didn't feel wrong or unsatisfying. I saw No Country together with my father, and after the movie was over we both just silently sat there for a while, then picked up our jackets, got to the car and only like half-way on our drive home we started talking about what we just had seen. That movie was harsh
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System Metternich posted:I saw No Country together with my father, and after the movie was over we both just silently sat there for a while, then picked up our jackets, got to the car and only like half-way on our drive home we started talking about what we just had seen. Yeah and I love the ending. I think it's just re-enforcing the endless cycle of "harsh." There's never any resolution. Evil is always out there in the world and it's always coming for you. Enjoy!
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# ? Aug 9, 2016 15:25 |