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Go to China, they have an even handed view of Mao: did 70% good, 30% bad is the standard line. We have a guy who had teeth stolen from slaves and put in his mouth on our money, and helped kick off a genocidal land grab. Let’s not act so sensitive here.
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I don’t know if anyone has more context on this but I saw a video essay on where the 50M dead from communism came from. The gist was that they came from a book that was repudiated by several of its contributors and that the numbers themselves were completely made up without any evidence.
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wolfman101 posted:I don’t know if anyone has more context on this but I saw a video essay on where the 50M dead from communism came from. The gist was that they came from a book that was repudiated by several of its contributors and that the numbers themselves were completely made up without any evidence. They included Nazis killed in battle or executed by the Soviets in the number lol
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Dec 4, 2022 17:02
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Yeah, if you want a really fun time, look up some of the writeups on the dumb Victims of Communism memorial wall in Canada. Christya Freeland's involvement is also really funny considering she was a "left," voice on Left, Right, and Center for a little while before getting into Canadian politics more directly.
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Dec 4, 2022 17:26
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Would people starved by the british empire be considered victims of capitalism?
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I AM GRANDO posted:Would people starved by the british empire be considered victims of capitalism? No they should have worked harder
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On the subject of people with hopelessly reprehensible opinions, especially with an audience around, I'm not above pulling a D&D style campaign of drowning them in their ignorance. It's easy to do if you consume any regular news at all. For example, when a totally alt-right guy who worked with us started talking about how "Trump was going to expose Joe Bidens pedophilia!!!!" I simply asked him to tell me who mitch McConnell was. "A... politician?" elicited laughs from all in attendance and dude just put his head down for awhile. Critical "you never even tried to know what the gently caress is going on" hit.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Would people starved by the british empire be considered victims of capitalism? Well, there is someone who had a strong view on that.
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Did trump just say he wants to terminate the constitution? https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/12/04/trump-constitution-republicans/ I feel like that's an odd remark to make now that he isn't president, but it's kind of chilling that no one is going to hold him accountable for wanting to tear apart the foundations of this country. Nebrilos fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Dec 5, 2022 |
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Dec 5, 2022 00:26
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Nebrilos posted:Did trump just say he wants to terminate the constitution? He did indeed and I agree with you. There's some talk about it in the USCE thread but I'm anxious to hear how RWM handles it this week; assuming they mention it all.
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BiggerBoat posted:He did indeed and I agree with you. There's some talk about it in the USCE thread but I'm anxious to hear how RWM handles it this week; assuming they mention it all. Lots of gas lights are about to be lit, and lots of mental gymnasts are sliding sweatbands around their brains and doing their warmup stretches.
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BiggerBoat posted:He did indeed and I agree with you. There's some talk about it in the USCE thread but I'm anxious to hear how RWM handles it this week; assuming they mention it all. The way they always do. Step 1: "Trump didn't actually mean that; he's just venting" Step 2: Someone - Ben "WAP" Shapiro or some other ghoul unironically says, "Yeah, maybe we should terminate the constitution" Step 3: Fox News and other RWM slowly comes around to the idea. It's the patented multi-step process they've been doing for 5-6 years now. It's a joke and "they didn't mean it" and "the left is crazy for thinking this is what we believe" until it's a part of the GOP platform.
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Some categories just have a special media pass. No matter how many pastors/priests diddle kids in their congregation or steal funds, they will always only be brought in as examples of sound values and virtue, and their misdeeds never invite further discussion or follow-up. Likewise, conservative and 'family values' types are always presumed honest and in good faith. No reporter will ever throw Dennis Hastert in the face of any GOPer blubbering about keeping the children safe. The January 6 shitstorm shocked the vestals of decorum for maybe 10 hours that "hey, maybe one side here is a bit hosed up", but they were then immediately giving a pass to every GOPer that had been cheering for the rioters. Likewise, Dems are never called on betraying progressives. In fact, it only earns them institutional praise. But if they ever try pardoning school debts or pulling out of a lucrative eternal war theater, hoo boy!
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:The way they always do. https://twitter.com/RNRenewal/status/1599176978740879360 Oh hello Step 2.
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I don't know how legitimate these people are, but there's a great quote somewhere: when they can't win with their "ideas", Republicans won't abandon their "ideas"; they'll abandon democracy.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I don't know how legitimate these people are, but there's a great quote somewhere: when they can't win with their "ideas", Republicans won't abandon their "ideas"; they'll abandon democracy.
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FlamingLiberal posted:You can already see that in progress with how they want to be able to overturn the elections that they don't like the result of. This is just the next step. We've been pretty lucky so far, all told; our opponents have been incompetent buffoons. Maybe the fact that these Arizona fascists for Kari Lake folding so quickly is a positive sign that the movement not to certify elections isn't going anywhere, but the real test will be 2024.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I don't know how legitimate these people are, but there's a great quote somewhere: when they can't win with their "ideas", Republicans won't abandon their "ideas"; they'll abandon democracy. They're Trumpists, and they've been around a few years without self-destructing, at least.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:We've been pretty lucky so far, all told; our opponents have been incompetent buffoons. Maybe the fact that these Arizona fascists for Kari Lake folding so quickly is a positive sign that the movement not to certify elections isn't going anywhere, but the real test will be 2024.
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"The constitution is a sacred document anointed by God himself because America is a christian nation and Jesus loves us but Democrats want to destroy it!" - Conservative republicans for the last 40 years. "We should suspend the constitution until I am made president again, based on poo poo I made up." - Some nouveau riche moron from New York "Yeah! gently caress the constitution if this false prophet I worship can't be King of America! What good is it if liberals and gays exist and this idiot I love can't rule over us?" - These same conservative Republicans now. Just wait. Gonna monitor this heavily this week. And while I'm thinking about it, any word on the annual War on Christmas yet? Because I remember Trump declared that it was over since he made it OK and legal to say "Merry Christmas" again and I haven't gotten my marching orders this year.
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FlamingLiberal posted:They would make more headway if they weren't so loud about what they are planning. We saw how Glenn Youngkin managed to get elected in a blue state by keeping his crazy in check until after he won. They're making plenty of headway where it counts. Stuffing fanatics, true believers, and hateful bigots in local positions everywhere they can get away with so the next person to pull a January 6th doesn't fail.
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Also, Trump didn't say "temporarily suspend". He said "terminate".
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Do you think trump is constantly upset about losing, or do you think it just happens and is gone in an instant? I don’t understand how narcissism works, but I like the idea that he is endlessly tormented by irrefutable proof that he is a failure and a buffoon.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Do you think trump is constantly upset about losing, or do you think it just happens and is gone in an instant? I don’t understand how narcissism works, but I like the idea that he is endlessly tormented by irrefutable proof that he is a failure and a buffoon. It's with him endlessly. It's like tinnitus; it can be temporarily soothed with distraction, but it's always going to be there with him and the only true cure for it will be death because then he will no longer be extant to perceive it.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Would people starved by the british empire be considered victims of capitalism? Should be, but isn't. This is because capitalism specifically does not even try to take responsibility for these outcomes. When a famine happens under capitalism, it was some individual actor's fault. It's considered intended behavior. Meanwhile, failures of socialism/communism, no matter how clearly caused by individual actor's behaving poorly, get tagged as undermining the philosophy because that philosophy attempts to address and take responsibility for those things directly. Every externality of socialism is breathlessly tallied, every externality of capitalism is hand-waved or treated as virtue. ErIog fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Dec 5, 2022 |
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Response I've seen online to the 'terminate' speech - attack anyone that brings it up as a 'libtard', ignore and focus on one of the old favourites instead i.e. Trudeau, muslim birth rates, gender stuff.
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Trickle down economics? Doesn't exist! And besides, it's was Thomas Sowell who told us all along that  https://twitter.com/PolicemanMeme/status/1597660669452906496?t=471uJ9rmXYgjW7aVY-tf9A&s=19
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Panfilo posted:Trickle down economics? Doesn't exist! And besides, it's was Thomas Sowell who told us all along that "We didn't make up the phrase trickle-down economics so therefor our incessant tax cuts for the rich at the expense of 98% of the population can't be trickle down economics" is some serious 'ignore the meaning just focus on this pointless pedantic discussion' energy.
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Right, it was called Voodoo Economics.
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Now ask them about political correctness.
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Murgos posted:"We didn't make up the phrase trickle-down economics so therefor our incessant tax cuts for the rich at the expense of 98% of the population can't be trickle down economics" is some serious 'ignore the meaning just focus on this pointless pedantic discussion' energy. Oh he argues against that too https://twitter.com/PolicemanMeme/status/1597660765032677378?t=oiFJUkc0n62jWUFLFMEO-Q&s=19
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Panfilo posted:Oh he argues against that too "For my next trick to distract you I will ignore that income tax rates for the top radically reduced prior to this period and I will also ignore that during this period the vast majority of the top 1%s income now comes through stock options and other compensation and not salary." edit: LOL, just down the page is a section that entirely refutes any nonsense that trickle-down trickles down" quote:Between 1979 and 2019, income after transfers and taxes grew most quickly among households in the top 0.01 percent of the distribution, spurred by strong growth in income before transfers and taxes and a reduction in average tax rates. From 1979 to 2019, average income after transfers and taxes grew by the following amounts: Murgos fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Dec 5, 2022 |
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I AM GRANDO posted:Now ask them about political correctness. I was going to suggest partial-birth abortions, they should be relieved that those have been reduced to zero.
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Panfilo posted:Oh he argues against that too Da fuq? These charts clearly show a tax cut for the top like three times.
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HootTheOwl posted:Da fuq? Also, saying "taxes didn't drop in the 1980s" but not showing what they were like pre-1979 is dumb. Those dark lines are pretty much swooping in from above the chart, but he doesn't want you to see that.
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I hope whoever is running that account is getting Koch money because doing that on your own time is complete insanity.
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Invalid Validation posted:I hope whoever is running that account is getting Koch money because doing that on your own time is complete insanity. Boot leather must be loving delicious, given the number of bootlickers for the rich I see around.
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Consequences of right wing media: So, you know how the Trumpified GOP has been running this campaign to discredit early voting (because that's how George Soros uses his bamboo space lasers to steal votes) and one of the effects of that is now there is a chunk of the GOP electorate that refuses to vote early/absentee/by mail and will only vote on election day? And since Republicans increasingly refuse to early vote (while Dems are racing banking as many early votes as they can), they really need full turnout on election day in order to grab that Senate seat? Well, there's a reason why campaign strategy 101 is "bank as many votes as possible before election day, so there are fewer voters that you have to drive to the polls on election day, plus you never know what weird poo poo might happen on election day itself to ruin your plans": https://twitter.com/brent_peabody/status/1599777016953217025 Huge storms in the heavily Republican parts of northern Georgia are expected to suppress turnout for tomorrow's special election. LOL, LMAO.
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No, see, this is just more proof that Democrats cheated! Warnock is a reverend, which means he is quite close to 'God' if that is what you want to call him. So, he prayed to win the election. That's outside interference! He literally asked an outside power to interfere so he can steal the election. Then, get this, God used his omnipotence to create weather. Was that weather neutral? No! It targeted legal voters going to polls with their IDs, and it kept them from voting. God brought a storm to stop the vote, because remember, Warnock has that insider connection and he can just talk to God. That's corruption if I've ever seen it. The solution then becomes clear. In order to stop this terrible interference in our elections, we must attack and dethrone God. Otherwise, the Dems will continue to use God to cheat their way into godless socialism.
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