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And More posted:I had no idea people were gonna go nuts on me for using "canon". Oh that's just diverging timelines. That'll be back in 70 parts.
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And More posted:I had no idea people were gonna go nuts on me for using "canon".
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Symbolic Butt posted:blast is probably just saitama with hair Blast is Saitamas hair. Sentient and indestructible hair
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Feb 24, 2018 16:12
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Abandoned Toaster posted:I hope that Glasses from a few chapters ago keeps progressing and becomes the next almost-Saitama He owns and is only second to Mumen Rider
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Feb 24, 2018 16:32
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I hope blast is literally Goku.
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Bacontotem posted:I hope blast is literally Goku. Boros was Goku.
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Feb 26, 2018 19:05
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Boros was like the villain from one of those lesser talked about DBZ movies.
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Feb 26, 2018 19:43
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Blast is Casshern
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That was a good chapter for the Zombieman origins, but this limiter stuff just confused things. If a living being gets too strong, it goes insane, we're told over a shot of Royal Ripper. So have humans who turned into monsters gone over the limit? --No, that's just a physical transformation, nothing to do with limiters. What about natural monsters and aliens? --No, they're just naturally super strong, nothing to do with limiters. (Boros is shown here for the reader, since nobody but Saitama saw him and Sweet Mask killed the crew survivors.) OK, so any examples of a limiter being surpassed with the associated consequences? Asura Rhino, maybe?? --NO. Look, Saitama broke the limiter and was fine. That's it. Great. Very useful information, thanks.
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Mordecai posted:OK, so any examples of a limiter being surpassed with the associated consequences? Asura Rhino, maybe?? --NO. Look, Saitama broke the limiter and was fine. That's it. No offense to you at all, but I'm pretty sure that's the joke. Saitama breaking the rules is the center of most of the humor in this series, and despite the re-draw having expanded action scenes this is still a comedy manga at heart
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Feb 28, 2018 22:18
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Blast is pig god. he just really let himself go.
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Mordecai posted:That was a good chapter for the Zombieman origins, but this limiter stuff just confused things. 
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Kild posted:It's from his author notes mostly and his interviews Yeah he very definitely has some sort of chronic pain issues but the details are pretty much speculation and rumor
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Mordecai posted:That was a good chapter for the Zombieman origins, but this limiter stuff just confused things. the limiter stuff is just them trying to figure out why saitama is so fuckin' strong, and failing that's all it is
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Yinlock posted:the limiter stuff is just them trying to figure out why saitama is so fuckin' strong, and failing It ain't even that. Genus, the guy who tried to make strong monster by altering genetics, is just explaining how "the very image of Mr. Everyman" disproved his worldview. He doesn't fail to "figure out" why Saitama is strong, he takes Saitama at his word that he got strong through hard work.
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Schwarzwald posted:He doesn't fail to "figure out" why Saitama is strong, he takes Saitama at his word that he got strong through hard work. not really because he still has to invent some imaginary limiter to understand it saitama literally got that strong through his incredible training routine, there is nothing else to it and no limiters or whatever that is The Joke
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Basically: Saitama is strong in a way that defies whatever logic anyone else thinks poo poo operates under in the setting (we know this). It's narratively framed in a way to imply that Garou may also do the same.
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Yinlock posted:saitama literally got that strong through his incredible training routine, there is nothing else to it That's exactly what Genus says. You are agreeing with him.
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Zerilan posted:Basically:
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Yinlock posted:not really because he still has to invent some imaginary limiter to understand it i mean the side effects of breaking the limiter aren't imaginary, the alienation and mental toll on saitama are realhe just lucily has been able to develop some other relationships before going insane
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Elfgames posted:i mean the side effects of breaking the limiter aren't imaginary, the alienation and mental toll on saitama are realhe just lucily has been able to develop some other relationships before going insane true, i'm just saying there's no "limiter" or whatever or if there is, someone's going to break it and then immediately get exploded by saitama
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Mar 1, 2018 06:21
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or maybe nobody else is going to break it and it's just saitama
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Elfgames posted:or maybe nobody else is going to break it and it's just saitama DING DING DING
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Except that one dude who is doing exactly what Saitama said He might do it
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Parrotine posted:Except that one dude who is doing exactly what Saitama said i mean i doubt it i feel like saitama's emotional and mental condition is what let him do it.
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Mordecai posted:Look, Saitama broke the limiter and was fine. That's it. Um, he clearly went bald, which is AWFUL
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Yeah the point Genus was making is that he broke his limiter. No one else has done this. How or why it happened is unknown.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Yeah the point Genus was making is that he broke his limiter. No one else has done this. How or why it happened is unknown. I'm pretty sure Saitama's explained how and why
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Parrotine posted:Except that one dude who is doing exactly what Saitama said and then Saitama beats him with a single punch
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Elfgames posted:i mean i doubt it i feel like saitama's emotional and mental condition is what let him do it. also the baldness if you don't go bald from the intense training then get that weak poo poo out of here
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Xarbala posted:I'm pretty sure Saitama's explained how and why Well to be exact he explained the how. The Why was not explained. As what he did could not have allowed him to become so strong naturally. But as Genus said, somehow while doing this he broke all limits that his body had and became Godly in power, just by doing simple strength training.
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The why is because he wanted to be a hero 
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MonsterEnvy posted:Well to be exact he explained the how. The Why was not explained. As what he did could not have allowed him to become so strong naturally. no, it totally did That Is The Joke
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Someone is going to try and replicate it, but instead of getting super powers and baldness just gets the baldness.
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'Swhat they get for using AC in summer.
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my understanding of the explanation was "every person has a physical limit to how strong they can get. saitama's natural limit was so low that he was able to grind right up against it through basic strength training. because he diligently kept pushing without compromise, he was able to eek out the tiniest bit of strength past his natural limit, which just Broke Everything and gave him godly strength." to what extent that's supposed to be taken seriously or not i don't know and also can't say i particularly care about. it's a satisfying enough explanation that also could very easily be the scientist just bullshitting.
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I like the explanation, though it's somewhat muddied by the fact that we've seen Saitama mid-training, as he was getting stronger, and he definitely still had all his hair at points where he could one shot monsters, yet still wasn't as strong as he is now, which implies that he was gradually gaining strength over time, not that he just suddenly broke through his limits. If that was the case, he could have stopped when he still had hair and still be the worlds strongest hero.
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This was all shown way back in the extra chapter of volume 2 http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Onepunch-Man/Punch-015-005?id=369860#1
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Xarbala posted:The why is because he wanted to be a hero A hero so strong he could beat any monster in one punch. Also, don't forget that Genus is going by his own interpretation of how things work, he may have some things wrong.
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I think people are over complicating things. The wording is clumsy, but it's not some mystical bullshit, it's just the basic premise of the story. Humans/monsters/heroes/space aliens each have a certain range of strength (that is, they're limited), but Saitama is far outside of that. What's significant about it is that Genus, a character in the story, has taken notice of this. While it does serve as foreshadowing, more than that it's showing that, even though Saitama goes mostly unrecognized, he is making a difference and people are beginning to realize this.
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