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*Nominate a candidate who's seen as an untrustworthy Washington insider in a campaign season of populist resentment* *Also she's under FBI investigation* *Also she's been demonized for like 30 years* *Somehow campaign on the idea that she's super awesome* *Deliberately hide economic platform* *Siphon money away from downballot and local races* *Campaign against the other candidate even though he thrives on the idea that people like her hate him* *Open offices in Georga and Texas* *Deliberately ignore rust belt states that need to be won and are vulnerable* *Put more money into ads in California than ads in Ohio* *Lose* "I GUESS FACTS DON'T FFFFFFFFFUCKING MATTER ANYMORE, HUH? GUESS THERE'S JUST NOTHIN' TO DO BUT LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING NOW"
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:Like realtalk if you're so concerned about the poor, if you're referring to Americans you should stop using fat as an insult, because it's a luxury from a money and time standpoint to eat well. it's completely insane that this is true, but it is
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loquacius posted:We don't need to win over Trump voters, guys, his turnout was really bad and the people who voted for him are largely the same people who vote R every time. We need to win over the ones who stayed home. Yes, this. Trying to win over Trump voters is Clinton / Schumer centrist neoliberal idiocy. You need to motivate the people who voted 3rd party or didn't vote. You need to excite all the young people that were grossed out by the Clinton/Trump choice.
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euphronius posted:Yeah . These same people watch Fox News all day as well and are in the same bubble. You can get them tho with a strong personality candidate That post was an argument against your post, why are you agreeing with it, stop that  We shouldn't just run our same old politics while aping Trump's campaign by running The Rock or whatever people are saying now, we'd look like a bunch of johnny-come-latelys. We just have to do a better job at speaking to Middle America to make them
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It's hilarious to see Dems trying and failing to adopt post-truth rhetoric. It's like watching a PUA trying to blend-in at the Player's Ball.
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:Like realtalk if you're so concerned about the poor, if you're referring to Americans you should stop using fat as an insult, because it's a luxury from a money and time standpoint to eat well. like I mean I know people still cringe when the term "fat-shaming" comes up, but there is a grain of truth to that poo poo, in that it is rooted in class warfare
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Nov 29, 2016 19:23
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Always agree with people arguing with you. It's a sound tactic.
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Oh so we are believing polls now? How did that work out
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euphronius posted:I called them fat because it is accurate. This is like when Loretta Lynn makes the pie with salt instead of sugar
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Nov 29, 2016 19:25
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I am Pappy O'Daniel and the people saying we should run Dwayne Johnson or Oprah are Pappy's idiot son whackin u with my straw hat
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loquacius posted:I am Pappy O'Daniel and the people saying we should run Dwayne Johnson or Oprah are Pappy's idiot son lol if you think I wouldn't vote for Dwayne Johnson
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MysteriousStranger posted:http://wonkette.com/403920/jesus-people-pray-that-false-idol-will-save-gods-economy Enjoy! love it 
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:lol if you think I wouldn't vote for Dwayne Johnson In this metaphor Donald Trump is the midget and wrestling-adjacent trashy-media fame represents shortness of stature
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Nov 29, 2016 19:28
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euphronius posted:Oh so we are believing polls now? Polls assumed Clinton was running a campaign and not a grift operation, an understandable mistake.
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Nov 29, 2016 19:33
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The Rock is a republican. If you want a Democratic celebrity who would win in a landslide you nominate Oprah ffs
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Robby Mook desperately attempting to reboot their mad out of control Shindan election AI as it diverts all funds into hiring pants suit flash mobs
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Nov 29, 2016 19:36
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euphronius posted:Oh so we are believing polls now? The problem wasn't the polls, it was the Likely Voter screens thinking incorrectly that anybody would find Clinton inspiring.
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Zikan posted:The Rock is a republican. Perfect. Just the type of guy we need to put the Democrats back in power.
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Zikan posted:The Rock is a republican. lol Oprah, get out of here. I miss the days when every election wasn't apocalyptic, where you wanted a certain candidate to win, but if they didn't, you shrugged, got a little annoyed at the president once in a while, and then went back in two years.
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Trumped Up Trickle Down could have won is the most 2016 take Zikan posted:The Rock is a republican. I too, listen to the Chapo Trap House
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I still want to know what was actually going on when Hillary collapsed and got tossed head first in to that van.
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Thoguh posted:I still want to know what was actually going on when Hillary collapsed and got tossed head first in to that van. Low energy. Sad!
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steinrokkan posted:KOOKIE COOKIES: hello fellow F Plus listener
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Nov 29, 2016 20:37
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so what did your reps say when you called them?
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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:so what did your reps say when you called them? They said lemon cars are cookies, get hosed
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euphronius posted:Crowds of fat white people chanting "lock her up" are fundamentally motivated by economic issues which socialism can address I know you're being funny, but yes. These same people feel like there's two sets of rules, those for elites and those for everyone else. Locking up an untouchable elite is a sign that corruption won't be tolerated and that everyone will be applicable. You can interpret this however you want, but that doesn't change the fact I've heard this reasoning from dozens of people, including ones who wanted a higher minimum wage and to stop foreign wars and police actions.
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:They said lemon cars are cookies, get hosed rude
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Grondoth posted:*Put more money into ads in California than ads in Ohio* Fun fact, Clinton's the first democrat to win Orange County since FDR.
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mugrim posted:Fun fact, Clinton's the first democrat to win Orange County since FDR. So all that effort courting celebrities wasn't a complete waste of time.
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We could have elected Hillary Clinton, but ask yourself - would it have solved racism?
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:You know that it's much much cheaper to be fat than in shape in America, right? Actually, it's always cheaper to eat less than to eat more of the same exact thing.
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AngryBooch posted:Actually, it's always cheaper to eat less than to eat more of the same exact thing. It has more to do with the fact that unhealthy food is cheaper, and the working poor have little time for exercise when they are holding down several jobs at once.
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Serf posted:It has more to do with the fact that unhealthy food is cheaper, and the working poor have little time for exercise when they are holding down several jobs at once. Also costly, gym memberships are a reoccurring fee many people can't handle, equipment requires a lump sum that can't exist, and trying to jog poor rural areas occasional ends in getting chased by wild dogs (personal experience on the last one)
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Serf posted:It has more to do with the fact that unhealthy food is cheaper, and the working poor have little time for exercise when they are holding down several jobs at once. Thinking things like certain foods are "unhealthy" instead of first thinking about portion sizes is the heart of the issue. Smaller portions of the same food are cheaper. Agean90 posted:Also costly, gym memberships are a reoccurring fee many people can't handle, equipment requires a lump sum that can't exist, and trying to jog poor rural areas occasional ends in getting chased by wild dogs (personal experience on the last one) Exercise doesn't matter when it comes to not being fat.
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Agean90 posted:Also costly, gym memberships are a reoccurring fee many people can't handle, equipment requires a lump sum that can't exist, and trying to jog poor rural areas occasional ends in getting chased by wild dogs (personal experience on the last one) Also: fast food comes prepared already and is cheap, both of which are huge factors in why it is eaten by the working poor who have little money and no free time. Obesity is a natural consequence of capitalism's relentless drive to achieve maximum efficiency and profit while not caring about the health of the exploited class. The fact that it is still framed as a moral failing is icing on the cake and serves to keep a significant portion of the population feeling demoralized and devalued.
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Homeless Friend posted:Also, avoid nominating people under FBI investigation, that's an important one. All great leaders of change in US history were under FBI investigation though
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AngryBooch posted:Thinking things like certain foods are "unhealthy" instead of first thinking about portion sizes is the heart of the issue. Smaller portions of the same food are cheaper. Case in point.
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