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Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Stargazer, Excelsior II, and Sh'vhal are all ships I actively want to fly. Even if I've yet to pick a ship from last years, so I could pick up the Mirror Crossfield and Deimos and that'd be "better" but also gently caress it. (still have no idea what to pick from last years)

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Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


I forgot half of those even came out last year since they're hideous disco/picard boats.

Also the Deimos is fun as hell and looks decent and has absurdly broken console, get that.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Asimo posted:

I forgot half of those even came out last year since they're hideous disco/picard boats.

Also the Deimos is fun as hell and looks decent and has absurdly broken console, get that.

I'm tentatively saving my dilzen to get the Mudd pilot bundle next time it's on the 50-75% off sale since it includes the Deimos and the t6 Nicor.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Asimo posted:

I forgot half of those even came out last year since they're hideous disco/picard boats.

Also the Deimos is fun as hell and looks decent and has absurdly broken console, get that.

The Sh'vhal is from Lower Decks and the first new Vulcan ship in ages, so I rank it a lot higher than the Picard ones, tbf. But I think the main problems with the Stargazer are it's interior.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Cyrano4747 posted:

I'm curious if you're going to need an understanding of what happened in S2 or if it just gets memory holed.

Basically I really don't want to watch S2 if I can avoid it.

There's really nothing to memory hole, the entire season is a stable time loop caused by Q. Very much like ST4 Voyage Home it clearly tries to pay homage to in a couple of places.

Only thing that changes is that "there now is one volunteer-driven Borg collective living inside Federation and Picard knows their Queen from time before her assimilation". They basically shoplifted Borg Cooperative from STO and sat them to a federation space.

EDIT: I am going to go on record saying that under than 10 hours of bad-to-mediocre episodes there is a completely passable ~3 hour Star Trek movie if someone put the editing effort to make it so.

Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Jan 30, 2023

revtoiletduck
Aug 21, 2006
smart newbie
I could see myself taking the Acheron this year. I haven't used last year's rewards, and T6 coupons do sound good.

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

Eimi posted:

The Sh'vhal is from Lower Decks and the first new Vulcan ship in ages, so I rank it a lot higher than the Picard ones, tbf. But I think the main problems with the Stargazer are it's interior.

The Sh'vhal is about the only thing I'm looking at myself. Unless some great new Z-Store ships come out between now and then. But even then, I have the Lego Glenn, which is a slightly worse Sh'vhal.

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

Cythereal posted:

I've been thinking. Cryptic noted in the last ten-forward that they'll keep doing the yearly meta, but... I'm strongly considering the t6 z-store coupons rather than a lockbox ship.

I feel like I've got more ships I like the looks of than I actively want to fly, and I think I'd prefer account-wide new stuff now.

Nothing's come out last year that made me go yes I'll take that now.

Edit: For those curious, if patterns hold here will be the new choices this year:



Maybe I’d pick up the Excelsior II, because I generally liked it’s look. But also two T6 coupons might be nice to pick up some traits/consoles off that heavy frigate and light escort from earlier this year (or potentially something they release on the zen store this year)

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Asimo posted:

I am not going to watch Picard S3 even if multiple goons give it a good review. S1 was such an unmitigated aimless clusterfuck which made the interesting and promising start to S2 even more disappointing when it eagerly made the worst possible plot and pacing decisions humanly possible. It would have to have something like Mandalorian-level word of mouth to get me to bother and even then it would only be after the entire season's out so early hype has been killed by the expected disaster of a finale.

I mean I may play STO do but I do maintain some level of pattern recognition.

I picked up a copy of Picard S1 on blu-ray from a bargain bin. I have yet to watch it. I bought it some months ago.

I'm just not that bored yet. I may never be. May wait for a rifftrax style commentry track to make it work, if there is such a thing.

Teron D Amun
Oct 9, 2010

Cythereal posted:

I'm tentatively saving my dilzen to get the Mudd pilot bundle next time it's on the 50-75% off sale since it includes the Deimos and the t6 Nicor.

the only time they'd ever do a 75% discount again is if they do Mudds Bundles with only ship choices and no keys in them (good idea would be a pick-your-ship choice of 3 ships bundle at 75%)

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Teron D Amun posted:

the only time they'd ever do a 75% discount again is if they do Mudds Bundles with only ship choices and no keys in them (good idea would be a pick-your-ship choice of 3 ships bundle at 75%)

It's Cryptic, who the hell knows.

But even 50% would be fine. I'd prefer to spend zen, even far less efficiently, on getting these weird and wonderful ships than getting the latest reskin of Federation ships from the shows even if the reskins are mechanically far better and more zen-efficient.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Der Kyhe posted:


Only thing that changes is that "there now is one volunteer-driven Borg collective living inside Federation and Picard knows their Queen from time before her assimilation". They basically shoplifted Borg Cooperative from STO and sat them to a federation space.

Wasn't the cooperative a voyager thing?

edit: just checked and yeah, but STO enlarged upon it significantly. It was basically a bunch of borg refugees on a planet when Voyager left them.

AfroSquirrel
Sep 3, 2011

I don't think there's anything from the past year that I want; the Courier does have Pilot/MW but nothing else going for it really over the Deimos (though Courier is kinda cute for a ship). I'll probably go for the Crossfield Science Spearhead to get that trait

bij
Feb 24, 2007

The Deimos is a great ship in general and the console is obscene, definitely a good pick.

I used the last token on the Amarie because I wanted it, drat it!

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo
Available from the SteelSeries GG app on PC
Terran Space Pack:
Approaching Agony space console
Experimental Ship Upgrade Token
Elite Services Pack
Small XP Boost

Note: You have to download their dumb app and go to the giveaway tab to get this one. With the solid console and experimental upgrade token, it's totally worth the hassle for anybody lacking tokens and phaser consoles. The console is 4.5m on the market.

Approaching Agony is a lockbox Phaser console https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Console_-_Universal_-_Approaching_Agony.


+15% Phaser Damage
+1.5% Critical Chance

Approaching Agony
AoE Agony Phaser Damage
Creates a level __ Agony energy hazard for 40 seconds at foe's current location that follows the closest foe. To all Foes within 3km:
* ____ Phaser Damage every half sec
* -25 All Damage Resistance Rating
* to target: 25% Chance Disable
2 min recharge

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo

Wizard of the Deep posted:

More free stuff from Alienware: https://na.alienwarearena.com/ucf/s...ck-key-giveaway

Remember, you can still use the website to redeem the keys: https://www.arcgames.com/en/code-redemption

Thanks, I missed that one. I also missed the anniversary giveaway for the boff tokens so this was a pleasant surprise to stumble across.
Newish player alert: Ambush Turrets are awesome for the non-stop Operation Wolf events and other events where you stand around blasting waves of NPCs while a timer counts down.

x1 Universal Kit Module - Ambush Turrets
x2 Elite Bridge Officer Upgrade Tokens
x1 Elite Services Pack
x1 Small XP Boost

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

First ad for the 13th anniversary bundle just posted to Twitter. The mirror Hestia and Southerland are confirmed.

https://twitter.com/trekonlinegame/status/1621916620280025090?s=20&t=TK2qDkoRaUL5kISF0na-Uw

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

For the Mirror Sutherland, I’m starting to think they’d maybe go with an intel spec? Can’t remember the last intel science ship we got. Was it the legendary Vesta?

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

Fidel Cuckstro posted:

For the Mirror Sutherland, I’m starting to think they’d maybe go with an intel spec? Can’t remember the last intel science ship we got. Was it the legendary Vesta?

Yeah, that was last May. The last C-Store sci-intel ships before that was in Balth/Somerville combo in 2019.

Sapphira
Apr 7, 2006

MisterOblivious posted:

Available from the SteelSeries GG app on PC
Terran Space Pack:
Approaching Agony space console
Experimental Ship Upgrade Token
Elite Services Pack
Small XP Boost

Note: You have to download their dumb app and go to the giveaway tab to get this one. With the solid console and experimental upgrade token, it's totally worth the hassle for anybody lacking tokens and phaser consoles. The console is 4.5m on the market.

Approaching Agony is a lockbox Phaser console https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Console_-_Universal_-_Approaching_Agony.


+15% Phaser Damage
+1.5% Critical Chance

Approaching Agony
AoE Agony Phaser Damage
Creates a level __ Agony energy hazard for 40 seconds at foe's current location that follows the closest foe. To all Foes within 3km:
* ____ Phaser Damage every half sec
* -25 All Damage Resistance Rating
* to target: 25% Chance Disable
2 min recharge

Thanks for this tip, needed that'un!

Do the fleets still exist by the way? I'm fairly new

OGS-Remix
Sep 4, 2007

Totally surviving on my own. On LAND!
Yeah the fleets still exist, you'll probably want to post your name here though because it's unlikely someone will be on to invite you whenever you're playing.

Edit: That Approaching Agony console is really good too, it's a staple of Phaser damage builds.

Sapphira
Apr 7, 2006
Awesome :)

Name would be Sapphira Te'Laemara@telaemara

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

Sapphira posted:

Name would be Sapphira Te'Laemara@telaemara
Invited

OGS-Remix posted:

Yeah the fleets still exist, you'll probably want to post your name here though because it's unlikely someone will be on to invite you whenever you're playing.
I'm on pretty much every evening, late night west coast US time. Just generally not talking in goon chat, because it's almost always dead.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Heh, apparently they built the improved Inquiry-class 3D model for PIC season 3 using the Star Trek Online model as a base because it was better quality than the original.



I recognise those window textures.

Hope we get those parts at some point, although knowing cryptic it'll be legendary.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


I'd actually use mine more if it had a proper deflector.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Eimi posted:

I'd actually use mine more if it had a proper deflector.

I just slap the Avenger skin on it. Although that one has a not-great deflector, but it's still better than the grille.

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

MikeJF posted:

Hope we get those parts at some point, although knowing cryptic it'll be legendary.
The existing Inquiry is so stupidly over-powered, any legendary version is pretty much guaranteed to be a downgrade.

I've got similar worries about the upcoming terran nebula. The existing T6 nebula is probably the best pure science ship in the z-store, since it's ltc eng seat is shared with temporal so it doesn't have to run useless eng abilities. For the new nebula, cryptic's options are basically "copy the verne" or "make it worse than the existing one".

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

g0del posted:

The existing Inquiry is so stupidly over-powered, any legendary version is pretty much guaranteed to be a downgrade.

I've got similar worries about the upcoming terran nebula. The existing T6 nebula is probably the best pure science ship in the z-store, since it's ltc eng seat is shared with temporal so it doesn't have to run useless eng abilities. For the new nebula, cryptic's options are basically "copy the verne" or "make it worse than the existing one".

I think it'll almost certainly be worse than the prime version, since they are very unlikely to give the mirror any Temp-Ops seating (has there been any case where they've had a prime and mirror ship share a specialization?)

And once you drop Temp-Ops off a science ship, you lose all that EPG/Control boosting synergy, and people start to write it off.

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

Pilot spec refresh and minor changes to some ENG shield powers: https://www.playstartrekonline.com/en/news/article/11536183

The ENG stuff isn’t going to win anyone over, but the AP:lambda and engines-to-weapons changes might make those less forgettable on escorts and raiders

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Fidel Cuckstro posted:

Pilot spec refresh and minor changes to some ENG shield powers: https://www.playstartrekonline.com/en/news/article/11536183

The ENG stuff isn’t going to win anyone over, but the AP:lambda and engines-to-weapons changes might make those less forgettable on escorts and raiders

Very interesting detail: they're changing the pets from one ability to scale based on your stats. This could portend changes to other pets, summons, and abilities like saucer separation and multi-vector attack.

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

Cythereal posted:

Very interesting detail: they're changing the pets from one ability to scale based on your stats. This could portend changes to other pets, summons, and abilities like saucer separation and multi-vector attack.

Would definitely be a boon to carriers, which I think are just generally too weak regardless of anything else

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


I'm not sure any of the tweaks there will help change the Pilot Sucks meta much, but I'm willing to be wrong. At least taking most pilot skills now won't be an entirely dead slot.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Asimo posted:

I'm not sure any of the tweaks there will help change the Pilot Sucks meta much, but I'm willing to be wrong. At least taking most pilot skills now won't be an entirely dead slot.

The reinforcement squadron change is buff for a trap skill, can be ignored. The reroute engines to weapons thing looks promising but without numbers and testing I make no judgements.

I suppose make pilot good isn't necessary anyway. Even mediocre would be a large upgrade from its current state. If a bunch of ships change from "trash ignore" to "suboptimal but whatever" that's a change for the better.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Klingon Recruit running again starting next week.

For those who haven't made one, it's worth doing but the rewards aren't worth grinding for. The notable prize here is the t6 account-unlock bird of prey.

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

Cythereal posted:

Klingon Recruit running again starting next week.

For those who haven't made one, it's worth doing but the rewards aren't worth grinding for. The notable prize here is the t6 account-unlock bird of prey.

Some of the rewards are pretty easy, its mostly the grinding melee and cloak ambush kills that's a pain in the rear.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


Cythereal posted:

For those who haven't made one, it's worth doing but the rewards aren't worth grinding for. The notable prize here is the t6 account-unlock bird of prey skin/mod that you can use on the otherwise excellent Disco BoP to make it actually look like a klingon ship instead of its god awful hideous base model.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
The melee is easy to grind once you get to that one mission where you're locked in the arena with the Ferengi in a forcefield fish bowl and infinite spawns until you hit the little switches.

Also a Klink recruit is good for griding the Endeavour points. They get some free ones in the process which makes it a little easier.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Wizard of the Deep posted:

The melee is easy to grind once you get to that one mission where you're locked in the arena with the Ferengi in a forcefield fish bowl and infinite spawns until you hit the little switches.

Also a Klink recruit is good for griding the Endeavour points. They get some free ones in the process which makes it a little easier.

Yeah, the +10% universal is very nice to get, although it means that you will be spending a lot of time with your Klingon recruit so choose wisely.

And that guide to autogrind the melee unlock still works, although it is janky enough that you will need to somewhat oversee that it keeps working.

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

Hunter Noventa posted:

Some of the rewards are pretty easy, its mostly the grinding melee and cloak ambush kills that's a pain in the rear.
As others pointed out, the melee can be AFKed. For the cloaked ambush kills, the hard points in the Breach TFO count. And they respawn, fairly quickly. And you can start the TFO solo. So you can just run that solo, park in an area with a lot of them and a BFaW build, then just cloak and shoot until it's over.

DancingShade posted:

The reinforcement squadron change is buff for a trap skill, can be ignored. The reroute engines to weapons thing looks promising but without numbers and testing I make no judgements.
Going to have to see the final damage numbers on reinforcement squadrons to decide whether it's still a trap skill or not. For reroute, it looks really interesting. The single target damage it can put out is unmatched, but based on the description given in the blog and 10-forward, no build will be able to sustain it as the only firing cycle ability - it's just impossible to keep up with the engine drain. But it sounds like that's a very deliberate choice - when you run out of engine power it ends, but refunds cooldown time for other firing mode abilities. It's designed to be used in conjunction with anothing firing mode. It might still turn out to be garbage, but it's one of the more interesting options that we've seen recently, and a good sign that the new designer is thinking about things like this.

It also sounds like we're probably getting another proc for uncon from pilot abilities, and possibly an anomaly - Herlache said he places a lot of importance on standardizing stuff like that.

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revtoiletduck
Aug 21, 2006
smart newbie
I'm going to need a carrier with full pilot spec.

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