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Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://twitter.com/CAFinUS/status/1418744432719958023?s=19

I did enjoy going topside to watch UNREPs. Also, lotta rust on that USNS

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Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Glad I had the opportunity to take part in one. Almost felt like I was in the real navy for a day.

US Berder Patrol
Jul 11, 2006

oorah
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US Berder Patrol fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Feb 18, 2022

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

Laranzu
Jan 18, 2002

Themilitary.jpg

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


Crab Dad posted:

Glad I had the opportunity to take part in one. Almost felt like I was in the real navy for a day.

Crazy random question. I saw a truck with a big freefall lifeboat with "USNS CantRemember" today. My wife asked if the procedure on USNS for inbound antiship missiles was just to evacuate.

I said I'd ask.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



babyeatingpsychopath posted:

Crazy random question. I saw a truck with a big freefall lifeboat with "USNS CantRemember" today. My wife asked if the procedure on USNS for inbound antiship missiles was just to evacuate.

I said I'd ask.

I mean USNS don't have any weapons or defenses so basically yeah, I'd guess. Getting whacked with an antiship missile is hazardous to a vessel's ability to float. Back when the fleet supply ships were USS ships they had a full complement of defensive countermeasures and about 2x the crew but those got pulled off when they went to MSC.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
If a USNS is catching missiles, something went very, very wrong.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


babyeatingpsychopath posted:

Crazy random question. I saw a truck with a big freefall lifeboat with "USNS CantRemember" today. My wife asked if the procedure on USNS for inbound antiship missiles was just to evacuate.

I said I'd ask.

So the Spearhead class of ship I was on would just turn tail and run. Dual pontoon and the ability to run with one side only pretty drat fast. Also since it’s all aluminum there’s a very good chance the missile could just go through without hitting anything vital. Also they are extremely compartmentalized and nearly unsinkable. That’s all in theory though. Reality a fire would wreck us and go out of control quickly. Then someone would realize the lifeboats were all sold on the black market and turned into booze coolers.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/CAFinUS/status/1418744432719958023?s=19

I did enjoy going topside to watch UNREPs. Also, lotta rust on that USNS

Do the Canadians have breakaway songs?

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


So I just found out the IT civilian chief on my ship got drunk, fought with some MA’s in Gaeta. Assumed he was gonna get fired, sabotaged the network. Did get fired, Network drives zeroed out a few days after he was escorted off the ship.

lol

For being a loud obnoxious drunk he actually knew his job. Net loss.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

Crab Dad posted:

So I just found out the IT civilian chief on my ship got drunk, fought with some MA’s in Gaeta. Assumed he was gonna get fired, sabotaged the network. Did get fired, Network drives zeroed out a few days after he was escorted off the ship.

lol

For being a loud obnoxious drunk he actually knew his job. Net loss.

That's amazing but also now he's going to gitmo so...

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Crab Dad posted:

So I just found out the IT civilian chief on my ship got drunk, fought with some MA’s in Gaeta. Assumed he was gonna get fired, sabotaged the network. Did get fired, Network drives zeroed out a few days after he was escorted off the ship.

lol

For being a loud obnoxious drunk he actually knew his job. Net loss.

Isn’t doing that kind of thing on a military owned vessel like federal pound me in the rear end for 3 decades kinda time?

SerthVarnee
Mar 13, 2011

It has been two zero days since last incident.
Big Super Slapstick Hunk
Gotta log in to press charges. Everyone is judging from home these days.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


PneumonicBook posted:

That's amazing but also now he's going to gitmo so...

Honestly he won’t have to worry about that much because alcohol detox will probably kill him first.

I’m gonna make some more inquiries into it while I still know some people on the ship.

King of Bees
Dec 28, 2012
Gravy Boat 2k
What a dumb move. Most people just steal a bunch of poo poo

piL
Sep 20, 2007
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Taco Defender

Crab Dad posted:

Net loss.

Yes you already said that.

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


Nick Soapdish posted:

https://twitter.com/CAFinUS/status/1418744432719958023?s=19

I did enjoy going topside to watch UNREPs. Also, lotta rust on that USNS

I mean.......is it really? That seems like it'd be bad if they just came out of a shipyard, but that was pretty typical from what I saw post deployment.

I usually had a good time working unreps unless I had some lovely SK/LS grinning in the background that they were just supervising (shittily). It was good exercise.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


piL posted:

Yes you already said that.

Lol accidental pun but yeah while we were in the yards he was effectively running three USNS ships radio rooms due to people quitting/not knowing their job.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


Crab Dad posted:

...sabotaged the network.... Network drives zeroed out a few days after he was escorted off the ship.

Without OPSEC, how is this kind of thing possible?

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


babyeatingpsychopath posted:

Without OPSEC, how is this kind of thing possible?

He’s the only one who does network management on the ship and the only person with access to the radio room. He hasn’t had an assistant in 6 months since the last chief quit. He’s decent with scripting so it’s not surprising.
Network management on USNS ships is a real single point of failure scenario since the crews are so small. None of that general knowledge should be OPSEC especially since this all happened over a month ago and they are back up and fully running again.

Putting used kitchen oil in the hydraulics for the giant ramp accidentally did way more damage overall.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Crab Dad posted:

Putting used kitchen oil in the hydraulics for the giant ramp accidentally did way more damage overall.

Please post this story.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



I kinda wanna know how bad of a fire that caused.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
No shot, it would smell like fries when you poured it and there's no loving reason for this to be possible.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

lightpole posted:

No shot, it would smell like fries when you poured it and there's no loving reason for this to be possible.

oh ye of little faith in seamen

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

ded posted:

oh ye of little faith in seamen

I'm loving screaming

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

babyeatingpsychopath posted:

Without OPSEC, how is this kind of thing possible?

With admin access anyone who knows how to write basic powershell script or is inclined to google and spent a few hours could do this. Just write a kill switch script that just checks if you haven’t logged in for a few weeks and then just starts doing something like whatever the win10 version of syskey is on every machine it can find on the network with randomly generated passwords.

The hardest part of “hacking” is getting initial access or “root” (admin) and he’s not just on the ship, he’s already literally the admin of the ship network. You could do it if you had a few hours to learn, have a vague sense of very basic troubleshooting and got a few pointers. As a network admin you’d have to be incompetent not to be able to do what he did. It’s just rare that disgruntled IT guys do that on the way out even though it’s trivially easy because it’s so obvious who did it and so illegal.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
It is difficult to make a grenade, it is very easy to pull a pin when you're the idiot with a crate of them.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Please post this story.

It’s not much of a story. New engine wiper was asked to dispose of 5 gallon bucket of kitchen waste oil. They managed to put it in a partiality filled barrel in the wrong spot. Forward a few weeks and the main hydro system blew a leak and drained out into the space the crane was in. They found the busted hose, repaired it and the same wiper was tasked with refilling and managed to include the bad barrel.
We pulled into port to dry dock and the hydros start acting weird after we lower the ramp and
Chief engineer suspected something and sampled/smelled the oil and shut it down. They had to flush it out completely which put us a few weeks behind schedule.
I don’t really blame the wiper. There was barely enough engine room crew to operate the ship and they were a super hard motivated worker improving their lives but holy poo poo it’s amazing how one accident can make a ship non-op (the ramp being our top item).

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Ro-Ro ramps are giant pains in the rear end and always a single point of failure item. gently caress them things.

Company I sailed with had replaced their hydraulic oils with environmentally friendly alternatives, and it was fish-based. You’d know you had a leak when the smell went from “fish and chips shop” to “blackout at the fishmonger”.

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless
Try using helicopter rotor lubricant instead of aircraft engine oil for about nine months before anyone catches it.

Actually, better idea, don't do that thing.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Hey if it works for nine months…

I had an engineer drain the oil from a generator for maintenance, and another engineer forgot his pre watch briefing and started the generator. Bypassed the tag-outs and safeties to get it to start actually.

Four million dollars.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
TIL that there's a rehearsal hall for Hell on Earth: https://taskandpurpose.com/military-tech/navy-berthing-barge/?amp

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB



I’ve worked on every barge in PSNY and I never once saw a roach or mouse poo poo. I’m guessing the yards in more tropical yards are simply worse.

“ Indeed, some sailors enjoyed the experience. In a 2018 interview with the Kitsap Sun, Mass Communication Specialist Third Class Christopher Jahnke stated that “As a single sailor, there’s pretty much everything I could want or need here.” Not exactly a glowing recommendation, but that’s about as positive you can be in the Navy, I guess. “

This checks out from my time on them crawling around rewiring them for network.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

I spent my :norway: conscript year on a frigate built in the 1960s. The berthing areas were cramped (bunks stacked 3 high), the AC sucked when we were in the Mediterranean, but otherwise it was okay. Cleanliness standards were so high you could eat off the deck. How the gently caress do you guys manage to make it so much worse?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
The berthing barges in both Yoko and Hawaii i had to stay on were floating shitholes.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May
The barge I had to stay on in Norfolk was a shithole with barely functional heat and hot water. In January.

SquirrelyPSU
May 27, 2003


Crab Dad posted:

I’ve worked on every barge in PSNY and I never once saw a roach or mouse poo poo. I’m guessing the yards in more tropical yards are simply worse.

“ Indeed, some sailors enjoyed the experience. In a 2018 interview with the Kitsap Sun, Mass Communication Specialist Third Class Christopher Jahnke stated that “As a single sailor, there’s pretty much everything I could want or need here.” Not exactly a glowing recommendation, but that’s about as positive you can be in the Navy, I guess. “

This checks out from my time on them crawling around rewiring them for network.

I thought the berthing barge at PSNS was clean as hell. Unfortunately that was not its problem. The "galley" was inexplicably more poorly stocked then the carrier mid-deployment and the berthings were like being in a hostel with the world's shittiest people. And the water pressure was absolute trash. I didn't step foot on that thing unless I had a midnight quarterdeck watch.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Wibla posted:

I spent my :norway: conscript year on a frigate built in the 1960s. The berthing areas were cramped (bunks stacked 3 high), the AC sucked when we were in the Mediterranean, but otherwise it was okay. Cleanliness standards were so high you could eat off the deck. How the gently caress do you guys manage to make it so much worse?

US navy ships are disgusting generally.

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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
The problem with berthing barges is they aren't ships so the navy doesn't give a gently caress about them. They treat them exactly like they treat any barge. They sit in the water and only get looked at if they're about to sink.

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