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Maarek posted:I'm sure Shireen is just living off on a farm where she can run and play with Syrio and The Hound, right guys??? I'm waiting for Force Ghost Shireen to show up and strangle Ramsay.
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Zippy the Bummer posted:It would make more sense and be better writing for Stannis to burn himself alive to break the storm after ordering Davos to lead the army to victory and place Shireen on the Iron Throne. In the prophesy the hero kills the person he loves the most, not himself. The theme is sacrificing things you care about, not self-sacrifice. In the context of a fantasy story self-sacrifice is 'easy' and noble, while doing something horrible to a helpless person that you care about is much more difficult.
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Unfortunate that burning Mance seems to have produced gently caress-all in terms of blood magic. Or do non-Iron Throne kingsblood-havers not count or something.
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Jun 7, 2015 20:32
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That kinda makes sense. Mel gives Stannis the story of Nyssa Nyssa and how you must sacrifice what you hold most dear to save everyone else. Though hopefully the writers are decent enough to actually have Stannis wracked with guilt over the action. Maybe when Brienne brings Sansa and Theon to him after going all Lancelot on the Boltons he breaks down and demands her kill him for the terrible things he's done. The whole will break before he bends thing. You know who I miss from the books? The sassy Lannisters Aunt, Gemma. I love her talking to Jamie going "no, Tyrion was Tywin's true son, thats why they hated each other" and completely shutting down her terrible Frey husband.
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Jun 7, 2015 20:33
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Zippy the Bummer posted:Unfortunate that burning Mance seems to have produced gently caress-all in terms of blood magic. Or do non-Iron Throne kingsblood-havers not count or something. kingsblood is bullshit it doesnt do anything Melisandre is a fraud
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Zippy the Bummer posted:Unfortunate that burning Mance seems to have produced gently caress-all in terms of blood magic. Or do non-Iron Throne kingsblood-havers not count or something. I'm still holding out hope that they'll reveal the switcheroo with some random Wilding. It's a shame Tormund's basically the only named or interesting one left in the show, since I wouldn't want him to have been switcheroo'd.
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Zippy the Bummer posted:Unfortunate that burning Mance seems to have produced gently caress-all in terms of blood magic. Or do non-Iron Throne kingsblood-havers not count or something. Jon shot him with an arrow and hosed it all up good job Jon.
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Mance doesn't serve any strong purpose in the books after the switcheroo, him actually dying is the better ending. It's not like he'll ever be king of the wildlings again.twistedmentat posted:That kinda makes sense. Mel gives Stannis the story of Nyssa Nyssa and how you must sacrifice what you hold most dear to save everyone else. Though hopefully the writers are decent enough to actually have Stannis wracked with guilt over the action. Maybe when Brienne brings Sansa and Theon to him after going all Lancelot on the Boltons he breaks down and demands her kill him for the terrible things he's done. The whole will break before he bends thing. We'll have to wait and see, but since Melisandre proposed burning Shireen already and Stannis barked at her to get out they'll probably sidle up to it. I hope they have Melisandre tell the story but the show's avoided most of the heavy lore stuff so they might not want to talk about Azor Ahai.
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Steve2911 posted:I'm still holding out hope that they'll reveal the switcheroo with some random Wilding. It's a shame Tormund's basically the only named or interesting one left in the show, since I wouldn't want him to have been switcheroo'd. Tormund needs to become more like he is in the books. Not one single utterance about his member all season! And they should have had Wildling Xena survive.
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Jun 7, 2015 20:36
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I like how Ramsay loving up the camp has basically unleashed the power of the red god, which is going to help Stannis win the battle. Stupid Ramsay.
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Jun 7, 2015 20:38
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El Hefe posted:kingsblood is bullshit it doesnt do anything Kingsblood can't melt castle walls
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ROOSE CHANGE, Harrenhall was an inside job.twistedmentat posted:You know who I miss from the books? The sassy Lannisters Aunt, Gemma. I love her talking to Jamie going "no, Tyrion was Tywin's true son, thats why they hated each other" and completely shutting down her terrible Frey husband. I enjoy how catty she still is about the Reynes 20+ years later.
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twistedmentat posted:Tormund needs to become more like he is in the books. Not one single utterance about his member all season! And they should have had Wildling Xena survive. gently caress it, Olly is actually Mance. His complaining about Wildlings was all a ruse to keep his cover. Jon shot the real Olly.
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Jun 7, 2015 20:41
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So Mance shot Ygritte? Makes sense More sense than a potato boy doing it
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twistedmentat posted:That kinda makes sense. Mel gives Stannis the story of Nyssa Nyssa and how you must sacrifice what you hold most dear to save everyone else. Though hopefully the writers are decent enough to actually have Stannis wracked with guilt over the action. Maybe when Brienne brings Sansa and Theon to him after going all Lancelot on the Boltons he breaks down and demands her kill him for the terrible things he's done. The whole will break before he bends thing. Jon is Jesus Christ reborn because he sacrificed the pretty Irish Lady who was his one true love, so true love he rejects sex for all time because he needs to fight ice satan and actually killed an ice grandpa because of that and this loser just burned his daughter to stop a storm so his dudes could walk faster.
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Dapper Dan posted:Jon is Jesus Christ reborn because he sacrificed the pretty Irish Lady who was his one true love, so true love he rejects sex for all time because he needs to fight ice satan and actually killed an ice grandpa because of that and this loser just burned his daughter to stop a storm so his dudes could walk faster. Ollie killed her and he's going to kill Jon and become the Lord Commander and lead the Night's Watch to certain victory.
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my bony fealty posted:Kingsblood can't melt castle walls Can we get this for a thread title for next season?
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Dolash posted:Sure, but then Stannis comes off as blameless. In order to "do the right thing" for Melisandre to betray, he has to make hard, terrible choices that go beyond just fighting for the throne. The injustice is shallow if the worst prices he paid were not paid willingly. Otherwise it might be Melisandre dumping Stannis because he apparently isn't strong-willed enough to be Azor Ahai (I like that parallel). stannis is exactly like benedict arnold in real life where he's mega unlucky and repeatedly slighted by everyone who knows him despite his own sacrifices so he turns traitor
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twistedmentat posted:You know who I miss from the books? The sassy Lannisters Aunt, Gemma. I love her talking to Jamie going "no, Tyrion was Tywin's true son, thats why they hated each other" and completely shutting down her terrible Frey husband. Yeah Gemma is awesome I'm glad she isn't in the show cause D&D would have had her double rape murdered on account of her being cool and harmless.
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this_is_hard posted:http://streamable.com/0m2k it's really annoying that so much poo poo is leaking but not just the episode as a whole
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A Major Fucker posted:it's really annoying that so much poo poo is leaking but not just the episode as a whole It's funny to think that whatever the actual ending to the series is, it'll probably be leaked in a similar way. People who've waited years to see the end of the books won't even see the ending on TV, they'll see an incomplete clip of someone filming it off their computer.
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Jun 7, 2015 20:50
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This season was kinda lovely.
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Jun 7, 2015 20:51
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It's as if people are...burning the show.
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Jun 7, 2015 20:52
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It sure led to alot of flaming in this thread Only by one person though. The Stannis of TVIV
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Nouvelle Vague posted:This season was kinda lovely. the only good season was the first one
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Vanilla Mint Ice posted:It sure led to alot of flaming in this thread Everyone who reads it and thinks you're talking about them are the Rhaegar's of TVIV
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Jun 7, 2015 20:55
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White Walkers. Tyrion. Daenerys. All four holding hands and skipping on top of everyone else's dead corpse. This is my ending to the series because nobody in-show, creating it, or watching it deserves anything better. Bonus if Jon never comes back from the stabbing.
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Holding hands you say? Drogon coming in Drogon starting poo poo Jaqen Jaime Ehhhh They even removed Hizdahr's dragonslaying fetish. He is the most moral character in Essos Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Jun 7, 2015 |
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quote:Jaime Yeah, with the Stannis fuss, we glossed over Dorne. Doran is sending Trystane and Myrcella to King's Landing. Why? Why give up your hostage and place your heir in unnecessary danger? This how does not understand the value of heirs.
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Ague Proof posted:Holding hands you say? such a stupid scene the harpies have Dany surrounded in the middle of an arena and no one thought to bring some archers
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In It For The Tank posted:Yeah, with the Stannis fuss, we glossed over Dorne. Doran is sending Trystane and Myrcella to King's Landing. Why? Why give up your hostage and place your heir in unnecessary danger? everything can now be answered with this: the show writers are retarded
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Also trained super soldiers in a ring with pikes getting owned by clowns with knives.
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Let's not start saying Trystane going to King's Landing makes no sense before we even see the scene. Doran may have some plan in mind, and it's not the first time he's sent his family members off on dangerous tasks. And they didn't seem to need archers for Dany, if Drogon hadn't shown up. We haven't seen how the scene plays out yet but knives and masks are a whole lot easier to smuggle around the city and into the arena than bows and quivers would be. I'm curious to see if Drogon turns on Dany's retinue at some point and starts attacking the Unsullied, she still has to try and tame him.
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InFlames235 posted:Ollie killed her and he's going to kill Jon and become the Lord Commander and lead the Night's Watch to certain victory. Potato child will put longclaw on his bow and will 360 NOSCOPE the Night King. Then he'll sit on the iron thrown and potatoes for everyone But I seriously don't care about the politiking anymore. Like, at all. I don't care about Tyrion or Dany or Arya or Stennis the Menace or Ramsay 'I should have a mustache to twirl' Bolton or Breinne or Cersie the Retard or Crazy Redheaded Witch. There are loving ice liches and ice grandpas with a million clones of skeletor ready to gently caress poo poo up and like five super cool swords to murder them with and lovely primitive obsidian to do stabby stabby. This is why GURPS didn't use them all that much, because he knew once he did something cool with them nobody would care about Medieval House of Cards anymore. They'd want 'why aren't we seeing more ice grandpas who can murder everyone. This is more important than some stupid communist making a retarded person who actually gave him power do a slutwalk.' El Hefe posted:everything can now be answered with this:
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In It For The Tank posted:Yeah, with the Stannis fuss, we glossed over Dorne. Doran is sending Trystane and Myrcella to King's Landing. Why? Why give up your hostage and place your heir in unnecessary danger? we had to have some progress from that plotline
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gently caress it, burn the girl. Have Stannis shove the torch into the burn pit then walk away expressionless while throw up his hands in a "gently caress it all" gesture then slaughter everyone in Winterfell, including Sansa, Theon, and Brienne who comes there to kill him but gets owned instead. Pod can become his new squire. Mel can cast a fire spell to burst Sansa into flames like she did to that warg eagle in the books.
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So Dany sees ~~Daario~~ get stabbed and has no reaction whatsoever Subtle trolling Clarke, very subtle Wait I can't even tell if that's him getting stabbed from all the quick cuts, weird choice to just grab someone's hands and close your eyes if it wasn't Midnight City fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Jun 7, 2015 |
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Yeah remember how Azor Ahai sacrificed a beloved family member as part of his fight against the Long Night. Almost as if he would give up literally anything and anyone to achieve his goals. Sorry your Stannis the Mannis fantasies are shattered
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The CG dragon is by far doing the best acting in both of these scenes.
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Ramsay needs another victory so he will probably flay a main character, most likely Pod. It'll be sad and poo poo.
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