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Moridin920 posted:The problem with Marx is 99% of people commenting on Marx didn't read past the first like 20 pages of Capital Volume I. yes he spends a great deal of time discussing the actual particularities of mutualism and it’s pretty rich to condescendingly be all “uh isn’t that generic anarchism” in a post about people criticizing things they haven’t read. Bookchin is someone you could call an ecological anarchist at a surface level but if you read his body of work, and moreso people he inspired, they are really different from 19th century Anarchists in many interesting ways he addresses the misperceptions and vagueness surrounding what even constitutes anarchism in this essay about lifestyle anarchism: http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/bookchin/soclife.html mostly Bookchin and postmarxist philosophers (who I’m generally more familiar with than Bookchin specifically) eschew the anarchist name as a specific and ubiquitous label largely because it implies fealty to existing understandings of political science they feel need to abandoned in favor of something entirely new
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"abolition of inheritances and private property" It seems like if you're abolishing private property, inheritances would become a meaningless concept.
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Frog Act posted:yes he spends a great deal of time discussing the actual particularities of mutualism and it’s pretty rich to condescendingly be all “uh isn’t that generic anarchism” in a post about people criticizing things they haven’t read. I'm just fuckin' asking a question bro if I wanted to be a critic rear end in a top hat I'd be doing that. Moridin920 has issued a correction as of 00:04 on Nov 30, 2018 |
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Moridin920 posted:I'm just fuckin' asking a question bro if I wanted to be a critic rear end in a top hat I'd be doing that. legit sorry, i am defensive probably because I'm used to people reflexively dismissing all this stuff, my bad anyway here's an essay on a dude who was very similar to Bookchin and is a good touchstone for what I mean when I mention people you could technically slot into anarchism with a little effort but would vehemently reject that label themselves. unfortunately almost all of his actual writing is gated behind scholarly walls but its a good insight into the quarterly he founded: https://www.uta.edu/huma/agger/fastcapitalism/5_1/Luke.html and this one is on the guy himself https://www.uta.edu/huma/agger/fastcapitalism/5_1/Sica.html a lot of his ideas went of the rails in some ways, and a lot of the people who wrote for Telos were profoundly anti-liberal, anti-state neo-anarchists but basically reactionaries, which has probably influenced my derision for the term anarchist in general
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Frog Act posted:legit sorry, i am defensive probably because I'm used to people reflexively dismissing all this stuff, my bad it's cool, I came off more testy than I felt lol I will read those
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CountFosco posted:"abolition of inheritances and private property" Not necessarily, Marx considers "private property" and "personal property" are two distinct things.
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Is marx saying you can't leave your toothbrush or whatever to your kids tho?
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your xbox and toothbrush belong to the people!!!1
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Okay here's Marx himself: quote:The right of inheritance is only of social import insofar as it leaves to the heir the power which the deceased wielded during his lifetime -- viz., the power of transferring to himself, by means of his property, the produce of other people's labor. For instance, land gives the living proprietor the power to transfer to himself, under the name of rent, without any equivalent, the produce of other people's labor. Capital gives him the power to do he same under the name of profit and interest. The property in public funds gives him the power to live without labor upon other people's labor, etc.
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worlds collide... https://twitter.com/ExistentialEnso/status/1068236788148391937
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Her red-brown Charlie chart thing links Max Blumenthal to Tucker Carlson through Glenn Greenwald Also Trump is two degrees separate from the CIA somehow. Trump -> Gina Haspel -> CIA
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Captain Billy Pissboy posted:Her red-brown Charlie chart thing links Max Blumenthal to Tucker Carlson through Glenn Greenwald she's very underrated in the pantheon of insane twitter users imo
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hang on does she think that american intelligence is also working for putin
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Shear Modulus posted:hang on does she think that american intelligence is also working for putin Perhaps in the sense that Trump uncontrollably spills secrets anytime a Russian comes into earshot.
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Here's every russiagate believer's thought process![]() In Thorne's case replace bot with tankie
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CountFosco posted:"abolition of inheritances and private property" And we all share a toothbrush too
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R. Guyovich posted:worlds collide... Lol she's friends with actual rapist laurelai Bailey gently caress her
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https://twitter.com/KayFellowz/status/1066448188532539394
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Socialism is when you're not allowed to endanger others because of your own selfishness and stupidity. Sounds pretty good.
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"Now you are immune to rubella"
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Checks out
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https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1068456166693441537
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StashAugustine posted:Okay here's Marx himself: Which is of course bad advice in present day when it seems clear that the way technological advances have transformed society has made a workers revolution a lot less inevitable, so treating symptoms to the extent we can is important.
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lmao getsfiscal ftw
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StashAugustine posted:"Now you are immune to rubella" Hahahahaha
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Captain Billy Pissboy posted:Here's every russiagate believer's thought process ![]()
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https://twitter.com/FraserNelson/status/1068503753526059008
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Lol brexit is bad, but have you considered the English Civil War!?
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Cut the Queen's head off, then, what the gently caress are you waiting for
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Captain Billy Pissboy posted:Here's every russiagate believer's thought process The weird part is there is now actual evidence of real russian corruption/collusion with the Trump campaign, but the #resistance are still making their insane diagrams and claiming AOC is actually Natasha in disguise and stuff
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fool_of_sound posted:The weird part is there is now actual evidence of real russian corruption/collusion with the Trump campaign, but the #resistance are still making their insane diagrams and claiming AOC is actually Natasha in disguise and stuff man I wish I was hated enough by establishment dems for them to draw me as a Rocky and Bullwinkle character
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The Roman Empire was the original European Union if you think about it
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its hyperbole to say american partisanship is terrible now, it was even worse in 1863.
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Dreddout posted:The Roman Empire was the original European Union if you think about it ![]()
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"mostly at peace" lmao
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"The Holy Roman Empire lived in peace for a 1000 years before Bismarck hosed it all up" is a radioactive hot take lmao
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:its hyperbole to say american partisanship is terrible now, it was even worse in 1863. I've seen that excuse a lot on these forums the last few years lol
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the bitcoin of weed posted:"mostly at peace" lmao ![]() But in its defense it did inspire Berserk, so maybe it wasn't so bad after all
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