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Beliathon posted:Consider less cloistering yourself off in an echo-chamber that nobody other than like-minded retard american white male assholes reads. Oh poo poo I haven't actually been outside at any time in the past year. Time for me to go vote for my favorite communist party candidate and join a productive workers syndicate!
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also lmao at bitcoin technology solving literally anything, at all, ever, in the history of existence
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Beliathon posted:Crypto-Socialism? What's next? As soon as I saw the words "Bitcoin" and "Blockchain" I immediately knew that you're an idiot
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Oct 31, 2015 21:57
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$10 seems pretty expensive to poo poo out four posts and run but what do I know.
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Oct 31, 2015 21:59
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paragon1 posted:Oh poo poo I haven't actually been outside at any time in the past year. Time for me to go vote for my favorite communist party candidate and join a productive workers syndicate! You're full of poo poo Beliathon I can't do this stuff at all. Also lol I think this moron just clicked on every thread with property rights or libertarian in the title, and assumed they were pro-libertarian.
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Oct 31, 2015 22:07
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Beliathon posted:Capitalism is done. If you can't handle living in a post-capitalist civilization, the time to off yourself is NOW! I'm serious, don't wait. You're really not going to like the ultra-compassionate world of your grandchildren. HOLY poo poo
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paragon1 posted:You're full of poo poo Beliathon I can't do this stuff at all. Probably riding the 'SA is libertarian' meme that was 'relevant' in idk when exactly but many years ago.
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Who What Now posted:$10 seems pretty expensive to poo poo out four posts and run but what do I know. He's also been posting in the bitcoin thread, which I assume is why he reg'd
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Oct 31, 2015 22:12
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It's Seraph, isn't it?
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3 of his reregs have been perma'd this week, is there really any doubt?
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Jack of Hearts posted:It's Seraph, isn't it? hes confirmed it in the bitcoin thread in yospos
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Oct 31, 2015 22:30
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haha what a moron.
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Oct 31, 2015 22:38
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Who is Seraph? I assumed these were joke posts.
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Oct 31, 2015 22:39
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Which Bitcoin thread, now?
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Rhjamiz posted:Who is Seraph? I assumed these were joke posts. hes an idiot who unironically loves bitcoin Who What Now posted:Which Bitcoin thread, now? the pos
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I had forgotten knockoff YCS was still around.
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Jack of Hearts posted:It's Seraph, isn't it?
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Oct 31, 2015 23:27
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Beliathon posted:Nope. Sure you're not.
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Oct 31, 2015 23:28
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Caros posted:Sure you're not. Nuke him from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
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Oct 31, 2015 23:33
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The workers should seize the means of production of bitcoin. And throw them in the trash.
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I wouldn't say that, they could probably be repurposed into a massive folding@home cluster.
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OwlFancier posted:I wouldn't say that, they could probably be repurposed into a massive folding@home cluster. Or some other useful Beowulf cluster purpose, like simulations. Beliathon, do you need help?: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1169030.0 quote:I hate people and I have massive ego which I have to defend against everyone because I'm so depressed. See, I have this problem, I'm addicted to masturbating. I do it all the time I can't stop it. Please give me tips to stop.
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OwlFancier posted:I wouldn't say that, they could probably be repurposed into a massive folding@home cluster. No they absolutely can't! The design "useful" for mining bitcoins on ASIC clusters, which you must use if you really hope to make significant amounts of bitcoins now, are unchangeable, and utterly useless for practically any purpose besides bitcoin and a few alternate clones of bitcoin. Since everyone doing CPU mining got out of the game years ago in a serious way, and the same with GPU miners (due to how much better FPGA and ASIC equipment performed) - the majortiy of the "network" capcitiy is single purpose ASIC bundles that can't do anything different.
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Waitwaitwait. Someone actually went out and designed a processor that does nothing but solve whatever bitcoin math problems to........no nevermind I don't even want to hear about this it's too stupid. Well, at least the FPGAs can be reconfigured to do something useful right? I'm assuming they just used off the shelf Xilinx or whoever's stuff for that?
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VitalSigns posted:Waitwaitwait. Depends on the FPGA. Some are single write only.
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VitalSigns posted:Waitwaitwait. Uh, yeah, it's actually a fairly trivial thing to implement, as the algorithm is simple. Most of the FPGAs last I heard ended up hosed up from being run continuously for so long so they don't even work well if you reprogram them, and they never dominated the mining the way ASICs do, it went straight from majority GPU mining to now megamajority ASIC mining.
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Sure of course it's not going to be difficult to custom-make a processor to do it, it's just ......aggghhh the pointless wastefulness boggles the mind. A couple years ago a friend of mine was talking about creating an FPGA image to do it so he could run it in his university's lab, which I guess is probably a better way of not getting caught stealing than just ripping off equipment and selling it.
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VitalSigns posted:Waitwaitwait. There was a demand so somebody supplied it.  Can't really blame hardware makers for that. That's just how it works.
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VitalSigns posted:Someone actually went out and designed a processor that does nothing but solve whatever bitcoin math problems to........no nevermind I don't even want to hear about this it's too stupid.
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Nolanar posted:It's dumber than you can possibly imagine. For example, your little summary there assumes the people making them were acting in good faith. And they probably were not. Since FPGAs are generally slow as poo poo. http://www.extremetech.com/uncatego...-bitcoin-prices CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Nov 1, 2015 |
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Nolanar posted:It's dumber than you can possibly imagine. For example, your little summary there assumes the people making them were acting in good faith. Someone (Possibly on this very forum) described bitcoins as a prolonged demonstration of the Prisoner's Dilemma with everyone mashing the "BETRAY" button as hard as they can and some dudes in the sidelines selling betray buttons.
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VitalSigns posted:Waitwaitwait. More specifically, the "bitcoin problem" that these ASICs are solving is "Can you correctly guess the random number that I'm thinking of? Hash your guesses with these inputs and see if you get this output!" When someone says "bitcoin is backed by math" you can immediately tell that they're an idiot because no one who actually understands what the algorithm does would ever say that ToxicSlurpee posted:There was a demand so somebody supplied it. And much like the people who sold shovels and other supplies during the gold rush, the real winners of the Bitcoin ecosystem have been the hardware manufacturers. But the really crazy part is that most of the many ASICs had a negative ROI from day one, even if you had free electricity. So it'd be like buying a shovel and a lantern only to discover that they're both made of paper mache.
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QuarkJets posted:And much like the people who sold shovels and other supplies during the gold rush, the real winners of the Bitcoin ecosystem have been the hardware manufacturers. Yeah, they suck down more in power than they generate in bitcoins. http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/12/03/fascinating-number-bitcoin-mining-uses-15-millions-worth-of-electricity-every-day/
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CommieGIR posted:Yeah, they suck down more in power than they generate in bitcoins. Hahaha what a retard: quote:And on to something entirely speculative. These custom ASICs, they’re optimised to perform 256 bit hashes. Wouldn’t that also make them good candidates for the brute force cracking of 256 bit encryption? Would the two uses be close enough together that they could be so used? Or if not, would the work on building these ASICs be a precursor to building ASICs that could be used on 256 bit encryption?
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QuarkJets posted:And much like the people who sold shovels and other supplies during the gold rush, the real winners of the Bitcoin ecosystem have been the hardware manufacturers. A few early adopters that managed to get some good, early strike and get out when the getting was good made money. The problem is that it was basically just a retelling of the Great Depression. Everybody thought it was going to go up forever and they would be the richest of them all. Then the bubble exploded and the fallout was more comedy than wanton desperation and ruin. Anybody that wasn't a complete dumbass could see that Buttcoins were going to implode hard which was why the smart people that smelled what was going to happen didn't cling to them as the wave of the future. Granted they were ultimately exploiting idiots. I think my favorite part of the whole fiasco was that other cryptocurrencies came out and they were invariably heavily front loaded. There were a few specific keys you could put in that would give you huge payouts that the creators just happened to be very, very lucky to find right before it went public.
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So tonight I learned that there is a term called... well I won't spoil it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J59XD9x_Vc A little bit of joy went out of the world as a result. I am truly less of a person for having this knowledge, and I refuse to go quietly without inflicting it on all of you. Caros fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Nov 7, 2015 |
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Caros posted:I refuse to go quietly without inflicting it on all of you. Rage, rage against the living of that guy.
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Caros posted:So tonight I learned that there is a term called... well I won't spoil it. You're the OP of a large thread about libertarians, how in the hell did you managed to not encounter the sexual marketplace gibberish before? They loving hate women.
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Caros posted:So tonight I learned that there is a term called... well I won't spoil it. I listened to the first minute of that and already feel dirty i hate u
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