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Man, I dunno why Rexxar never clicked with me previously, but man is he clicking with me now.Just playing full coward with Rexxar and Animal Husbandry, I was contributing a ton to fights with my bear that had an extra 2k health.
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Nov 17, 2017 07:29
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Lprsti99 posted:Man, I dunno why Rexxar never clicked with me previously, but man is he clicking with me now.Just playing full coward with Rexxar and Animal Husbandry, I was contributing a ton to fights with my bear that had an extra 2k health. How does he work with vehicles? I've never seen it..
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Nov 17, 2017 08:01
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lucifirius posted:How does he work with vehicles? I've never seen it.. Bear also despawns while he's in a vehicle, reappears next to him on exit.
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Nov 17, 2017 08:42
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I like to skim the official forums because I think it's a glimpse into what the masses care about moreso than Reddit. There are several fascinating posts complaining that the new AI is too good, especially on Beginner.quote:Being a longtime AI only player I used the game as a short relaxing release on some days. Loved collecting the heroes and seeing all the new mechanics behind them. quote:The beginner AI, however is irritating, it attempts to run from any danger(skillshots), even Chromie's W. Not even the old hardest bots dodged that. quote:The new AI is unimaginably retarded and completely ruins the fun of the game. They spam the everloving christ out of every escape move they have to get away when they're above 75% HP, they don't take any fights unless they have a very, VERY clear advantage or are on an objective. They are far too punishing and responsive to skillshot moves, you may as well just play Zul'jin or Butcher 100% of the time. quote:To be honest, part of me likes the new AI, except not at the current settings for "Beginner". It feels too frenzied, for lack of a better term. It seems as if I need to juice up on espresso or Mountain Dew to keep up, when compared to the pre-patch levels. quote:My two kids are having a similar problem to the OP and his wife.
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Nov 17, 2017 09:33
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People who only play vs AI really are the worst.
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Nov 17, 2017 09:38
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Dude probably shouldn’t have birthed a couple of complete scrubs imo
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Nov 17, 2017 10:04
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Lprsti99 posted:People who only play vs AI really are the worst. No, we just like the game in a super casual way or suffer from some sort of anxiety/stress when interacting with people. Very rarely I'll play Gul'Dan in quick match when I'm feeling good about myself on a day though.
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Nov 17, 2017 10:32
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blizzard the AI is moving around now, pls fix
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Nov 17, 2017 10:43
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You're a weirdo if you can't sympathise with "my kids used to love this game but now it's too hard"
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Nov 17, 2017 11:02
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peer posted:You're a weirdo if you can't sympathise with "my kids used to love this game but now it's too hard" It's not that, it's more that there are so many fulfilling and fun games out there for your kids that making them play a competitive MOBA in AI mode is... weird ?
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Nov 17, 2017 11:42
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I didn't read any "making them play" in the quoted post. Kids like weird things sometimes, they may legitimately like playing "The game Mom/Dad plays" on the level that they can.
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Nov 17, 2017 11:47
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Mind over Matter posted:I didn't read any "making them play" in the quoted post. Kids like weird things sometimes, they may legitimately like playing "The game Mom/Dad plays" on the level that they can. This is the perfect opportunity for that guy to do some parenting and have them Git Gud.
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Nov 17, 2017 15:09
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Sassy Sasquatch posted:It's not that, it's more that there are so many fulfilling and fun games out there for your kids that making them play a competitive MOBA in AI mode is... weird ? Maybe the kids like the blizzard art style and characters? Kids aren't thinking about mechanics of a game, they want to play as good ol Jimmy
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Nov 17, 2017 16:27
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Heroes of the Storm, much like Hearthstone, is a game for children.
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Sassy Sasquatch posted:It's not that, it's more that there are so many fulfilling and fun games out there for your kids that making them play a competitive MOBA in AI mode is... weird ? heroes of the storm has very simple gameplay, encourages/teaches cooperation, and features a ton of different playstyles it also has a lot of customization, is free to play, and requires little immediate time investment HOTS is probably one of the better options for kids atm as long as you remember to turn off Allied Chat
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Nov 17, 2017 16:31
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Just have the kids be easy, effective characters like Nova or Abathur and let them shine.
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Nov 17, 2017 16:32
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When I was a kid all I played was SC1 custom maps, this doesn't seem so different. The AI has become much more aggressive and less relaxing without getting substantially more difficult because they can't evaluate objectives well. Like Lucio AI and Sylvanas AIs are just pains in the rear end. I don't mind it but I can see why people would prefer the more passive, cow-like behavior of the old beginner AI. No Wave fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Nov 17, 2017 |
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Nov 17, 2017 16:36
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When I was like 13 I scammed people in trackmania and some weird F2P racing game. Kids will get you if theres a firm hand in the parenting. I think the guy that let his kids sit in spawn to get the dragon or whatever should have CPS involved to help them git gud because holy hell.
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Nov 17, 2017 16:38
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I'm being facetious of course I don't think CPS should take his kids because he's not teaching them good tactics in HOTS but he definitely needs to be on some sort of watch list.
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peer posted:You're a weirdo if you can't sympathise with "my kids used to love this game but now it's too hard" His complaint was that his kids "miss that satisfied feeling" of winning the objective 100% of the time. Now, they lose it a third of the time. I don't sympathize or care much either way except to say that it's a little odd to complain about it on the official forums.
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Nov 17, 2017 17:07
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Lprsti99 posted:People who only play vs AI really are the worst. i play only against AI because it's fun. it's like playing a silly game on your phone to pass the time. you're not "winning" against anyone, but it's still fun to play. not everyone wants to be competitive all the time.
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Nov 17, 2017 20:13
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Nov 17, 2017 20:26
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The best part of playing with tcjimbo is that I'm usually drunk / high as hell but I just say I don't have a mic but will listen on discord
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Nov 17, 2017 21:37
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goddamnit i just want to poo poo up a second game as hanzo already C'MON BLIZZ HURRY UP  Edit: also, I tend to play only AI games when I'm by myself. I don't enjoy moba PVP with stupid pubbies and I just tend to grind quests/levels, so AI works fine. When my girlfriend wants to play, though, I'm fine with PVP since I have at least one other person I can count on and communicate with. Dick Burglar fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Nov 17, 2017 |
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Nov 17, 2017 23:22
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The AI unerringly dodging skillshots is the part that irritates me the most. I don't need them to blunder into 99.9% of spells like before but now with stuff like Kel'Thuzad's W they'll instantly nope out of the full radius pretty much every time.
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Nov 18, 2017 00:38
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John Murdoch posted:The AI unerringly dodging skillshots is the part that irritates me the most. I don't need them to blunder into 99.9% of spells like before but now with stuff like Kel'Thuzad's W they'll instantly nope out of the full radius pretty much every time. kel'thuzad always lands his chains and sylvanas will always manage to banshee away at 1hp. it's definitely something i've noticed as well and it's annoying. i haven't played stukov in a while so i'm not sure if they still dodder about in his lurking arm. that was always funny.
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Did those AI changes go live recently? I've been getting into this to try and scratch the LoL/DOTA itch without having to figure those games out all over again, and the bots seem a lot dodgier than the other players, at least at my level. I was playing Kael-Thas and his Q felt really unreliable against them unless the terrain was nice and favored it.
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Trip report: despite my previous misgivings over chromie, I got the urge to give her another try. It took me a while, but I finally started getting the hang of her skillshot. In the last game I played I managed to complete the 60-hit quest by the 9 minute mark and after level 20 I could delete tanks in two hits. The three things that made the difference for me were (1) hiding behind terrain and using my vision skill to line up surprise hits; (2) getting better about dropping time traps at choke points and waiting to ambush/lure people into them, and (3) using temporal loop then using it offensively to line up skillshots (I had been following the icy veins guide that recommended the sand heroic). I hope this helps someone.
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Kerrrrrrr posted:kel'thuzad always lands his chains and sylvanas will always manage to banshee away at 1hp. it's definitely something i've noticed as well and it's annoying. Junkrat bot will also automatically detonate his mine the instant you touch it even if he accidentally left it a mile across the map and doesn't have vision of you. Edit: Oh, mine does give vision. But still an inhuman reaction time on that thing. John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 07:52 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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I sometimes play this game with my 8 year old nephew. It boggles my mind that, given how much time he spends gaming, he can still be a huge liability even against medium bots. Kids are really dumb and bad at video games, but I suppose they should be allowed to play.
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John Murdoch posted:The AI unerringly dodging skillshots is the part that irritates me the most. I don't need them to blunder into 99.9% of spells like before but now with stuff like Kel'Thuzad's W they'll instantly nope out of the full radius pretty much every time. I dunno, i'm super garbage at kelthuzad so played some AI games with him to get him to 5 and didn't notice any crazy dodging. maybe it's only certain characters though.
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Specifically post-Alex patch? The AI does have some odd variation to it that I haven't been able to put my finger on, so maybe it is an issue of old bots vs. new bots. Because hand in hand with the frustration with them zipping out of the way of certain skillshots I've about as often had cases where I had to double check what difficulty they were because I'd roll up to Adept bots and they'd start acting like Beginner ones and just eat poo poo. John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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peer posted:You're a weirdo if you can't sympathise with "my kids used to love this game but now it's too hard" I started playing Starcraft when I was like 5, dude's been raising his kids wrong.  Strontosaurus posted:I sometimes play this game with my 8 year old nephew. It boggles my mind that, given how much time he spends gaming, he can still be a huge liability even against medium bots. Kids are really dumb and bad at video games, but I suppose they should be allowed to play. There's something about DotA styled games that just makes people retarded. My older brother is a top of the line computer scientist who does work I couldn't even begin to comprehend, and yet "don't face check smoke vents" is a concept beyond his grasp.  Kerrrrrrr posted:i play only against AI because it's fun. It baffles me because when you get right down to it, HotS is a pretty awful game. You could spend your time playing one of thousands of much better designed single player games that are available for free, but you're choosing to play this. I have played games in this genre for over half of my life and I don't understand the appeal of playing an RTS with one unit and zero macro strategy. I don't know why you'd want to raise your kids to play them. I'd never touch the genre if my friends weren't all so obsessed over it. 
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I feel like my IQ drops 10-20 points whenever I play. I guess its because theres a lot going on during fights and its easy to make a boneheaded mistake. poo poo hits the fan really fast and somewhat unpredictably too. Theres also a bit of stress involved for some people which makes them dumb. MOBAs aren't really "smoke one and chase the dragon one handed" type of games.
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:What are the 'new laning mechanics' people are talking about. Globes can be picked up by both teams during the final two seconds before they disappear and towers and forts won’t have finite ammo anymore.
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Star posted:Globes can be picked up by both teams during the final two seconds before they disappear and towers and forts won’t have finite ammo anymore. So pushing is... Weaker?
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:So pushing is... Weaker? No. It means you actually HAVE to push in order to get anything done, because you can't just run the towers out of ammo by pushing minions up to them and then loving off. The globe change means that if you can dominate a lane then you get more health globes, giving you more sustain. Also, to correct the globe thing mentioned above: Globes last 8 seconds now. The first 4 seconds they can only be picked up by the appropriate team. The last four seconds they can be picked up by anyone.
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:So pushing is... Weaker? A bit but in some ways more important than ever. Winioning is weaker so more often you need to have someone present helping (or have good mercs) to push forts and towers.
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