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Visor question: For my HJC CL-15, would the "dark smoke" or a mirrored visor be most effective at blocking light? I've got the anti-fog regular smoke visor now, though the anti-fog is long gone, and on bright days I really need to wear a pair of sunglasses as well, which I'd like to be able to avoid.
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Gay Nudist Dad posted:Visor question: Not sure, but I have a question for you! Can you use the smoke visor at night, or is it too dark for that? On my end, I'd like to get something to help my sunglasses during the day, but I do a lot of night riding and would rather not switch out visors.
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Jun 11, 2008 05:31
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Uthor posted:Not sure, but I have a question for you! Can you use the smoke visor at night, or is it too dark for that? On my end, I'd like to get something to help my sunglasses during the day, but I do a lot of night riding and would rather not switch out visors. It's too dark, I think (plus I'm pretty sure it's illegal, at least here, to ride with a tinted visor at night). Maybe try amber? (though it would technically count as tinted)
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Jun 11, 2008 06:13
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Gay Nudist Dad posted:Visor question: Dark smoke, no question. I've worn my mirrored visor at night, it's not super horrible, but I wouldn't recommend it. At night, you want to be able to see as much as you can.
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Jun 11, 2008 07:14
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The level of tint on visors varies between companies. But as a general rule, it'll go: Light smoke, mirrored/irridium, dark smoke. A dark smoke will make you effectively blind at night. I have done it, and you're pretty much praying that nothing happens.
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Jun 11, 2008 07:22
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Gay Nudist Dad posted:Visor question: I've got both a mirrored and dark smoke for my AC-12. I can say that the dark smoke offers a greater tint, but the mirrored still provides a noticeable amount of tint. I really wouldn't consider wearing my dark smoke at night. I've used the mirrored, and it isn't too bad, but it still just doesn't provide the same amount of visibility that you would get with clear. I can imagine that the dark smoke would be worse.
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Jun 11, 2008 08:33
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Just to make sure we're spreading proper info I'm gonna quote myself from the pics/vids thread.Drunk Pledge Driver posted:You're a loving prick, you know that [OptimusMatrix]? For two reasons. One, posting questionably NWS material in here without warning. Two, get your story straight, SHE WAS WEARING loving BOOTS. What happened is the truck that hit her essentially did a burn out on her boot, THROUGH THE BOOTS.
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Jun 14, 2008 02:33
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Guhhh holy poo poo. And here I am, wearing the Alpinestar Octane series. Just how good are these? http://tinyurl.com/6ny9ol
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Jun 14, 2008 03:17
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Anuv posted:Guhhh holy poo poo. And here I am, wearing the Alpinestar Octane series. Just how good are these? I'm inclined to say that they are quite good if you only impact in the boot region. Alpinestars makes top notch gear. I can imagine your ankle being easier to break because it's not very tall, but the problem is that I don't think boots are typically designed to deal with car impact, which often exert a zillion pounds of force on your body. Really, expecting a boot to hold up against a truck in any way is pretty incredulous. Yes, you may want to consider a taller boot but don't expect yourself to be safer from TRUCKS. That said...there is a sweet discount going on with Teknic Chicane 1-piece suits right now. I bought one (they run one size small apparently) and I hope it fits okay. I couldn't pass up on the price and I know Teknic is semi-budget gear but if I'm going to go power around the canyons or mountains it's a nice thing to have. And I can't swing $600+ for a better suit. http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/hot+deals/hot+deals+-+sport/teknic_chicane+1+piece+race+suit
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Jun 14, 2008 04:04
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I spent my wednesday doing this: http://www.vimeo.com/1167961 Gridded around 15th, finished around 8th out of around 30 riders. The 600s and literbikes may have destroyed me on the straights but i did some passing of my own in the corners. Third lap is the most entertaining by far, especially with the attempted pass at turn 2 and up the inside to 5  Wasn't anywhere near my fast time as I kept getting held up in the corners and blitzed on the straights. I also backed off a little at the end, considering that it was only a sprint, not a real race, and it wasn't worth it to stuff someone on 11 for a place in a race with no points.
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Jun 14, 2008 07:35
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Can you guys give me some thoughts on these pants? http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/AGV_Sport_Sportrider_Vented_Leather_Pants--610441.html I'm on a budget so I'm trying to stay cheap, though I don't want to get something so cheap that it would be useless in a crash. Any other recommendations for cheap, decent, leather pants? I'm also looking at the Joe Rocket Blaster 2.0 pants, which are a tad more expensive. After reading this thread, I think I'm going to bypass any textile pants. However, I am about to order the Alpinestars Air-Flo Textile Jacket. http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Alpinestars_AirFlo_Textile_Jacket--521-ALP04-1.html It came recommended from the kneedraggers phone sales guy. What do you guys think? My entire budget for gear was around $500 but I see I might have to spend a bit more.
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Jun 14, 2008 15:23
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I have the Blaster 2.0 perforated pants. I don't have a lot to compare them to, but I really like 'em. I find them comfortable all summer. My jacket becomes a problem in the heat long before the pants do. The pockets on them are pretty much useless, though, if you're needing pockets.
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Jun 14, 2008 15:48
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:I'm also looking at the Joe Rocket Blaster 2.0 pants, which are a tad more expensive. After reading this thread, I think I'm going to bypass any textile pants. However, I am about to order the Alpinestars Air-Flo Textile Jacket. Maybe a leather/textile pant? Shift's stuff is pretty good, although these are more expensive than the AGVs you linked.
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Jun 14, 2008 17:10
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OptimusMatrix posted:(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) anyone have some advice on rain suits? are they all pretty much the same?
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Jun 14, 2008 17:56
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Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:thanks. I have a tour master elite series II rainsuit which I like, problem is if the temp is above 70 you're sweating, and if it's above 80 it's almost not worth wearing it. Check out something like this instead of a traditional rain suit http://www.froggtoggs.com/
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Jun 14, 2008 18:21
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I'm just beginning to consider kicking around getting a new bike and/or gear once fall rolls around. I already have a mesh jacket, and I was thinking about getting some sort of perforated leather jacket, or a textile/leather jacket. I live in Arizona, so the summers see 105+ degrees outside easy. The rest of the year is generally pretty nice, so I think a perf'd leather jacket would be a good addition to my closet. I just happened to stumble upon "Rev'It"'s site and I must say, all their protective apparel, style-wise, seems very attractive to me. I really enjoy the looks of their Replica Leather Jacket, and their GT leather jacket. They're both kinda pricy ($400-$500). However, I know nothing about their reliability and durability. They aren't listed in the OP under brands, anyone know what I can expect from Rev'It products?
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Jun 14, 2008 22:37
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Uthor posted:Not sure, but I have a question for you! Can you use the smoke visor at night, or is it too dark for that? On my end, I'd like to get something to help my sunglasses during the day, but I do a lot of night riding and would rather not switch out visors. And about my question a few pages ago about mesh.. I guess it's better than a t-shirt  I don't care if the jackets in poo poo shape if i crash in it, I'd just prefer I wasn't toast, too.
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Jun 15, 2008 00:01
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Fantastipotamus posted:I've used a Z1R dark smoke visor, which is definitely dangerous at night I meant the light smoke, not the dark smoke nor the mirrored. It's a light tint (at least for HJC helmets). No matter, I'm just gonna keep the clear; my crappy sunglasses (my good ones broke) seem to be doing alright in the sun for now.
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Jun 15, 2008 01:00
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iamthexander posted:"Rev'It" They don't seem to have much perforation and they're mostly black so I'd probably consider something else. Won't be nearly as cool (temp) as you may think.
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Jun 15, 2008 01:49
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I'm getting this jacket: http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Alpinestars_AirFlo_Textile_Jacket--521-ALP04-1.html It has room for a back protector. How necessary would you guys say the back protectors are? I'm also picking up a decent pair of Alpinestars riding gloves and a pair of pants, do you guys recommend any other separate armor pieces?
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Jun 15, 2008 01:49
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It seems like Teknic is the only company that makes leather jackets with the entirety of the front surface perforated. And all of those jackets, like the Chicane, are discontinued. I tried to get a Chicane jacket from about 3 different online stores, all my orders got canceled. You have your Alpinestars jackets with the shoulder vents and stuff but those are usually pushing $400 or so. Why is this?
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Jun 15, 2008 02:04
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:I'm getting this jacket: Some people wear separate back protectors if their jackets don't come with one. Something like this, though that one's a bit pricey. You can also get an insert into the jacket. I'm looking to get one of these to replace the foam ones in my jackets, though it also is expensive. I may get one for my Olympia jacket and the cheaper JR branded insert for my JR jacket. I ride with the foam pads that came with my jacket and wouldn't ride with less.
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Jun 15, 2008 02:18
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Uthor posted:I meant the light smoke, not the dark smoke nor the mirrored. It's a light tint (at least for HJC helmets). No matter, I'm just gonna keep the clear; my crappy sunglasses (my good ones broke) seem to be doing alright in the sun for now.
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Jun 15, 2008 02:40
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Fantastipotamus posted:I was under the impression that wearing sunglasses with a helmet was dangerous? In terms of them breaking in the event of a crash, that is.. Yeah, but I'm not about to get contacts to replace my glasses. It's a trade off I'm willing to make.
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Jun 15, 2008 03:15
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iamthexander posted:They aren't listed in the OP under brands, anyone know what I can expect from Rev'It products? Never tried their leather stuff, but their textile gear is very good.
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Jun 15, 2008 03:33
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How effective are those Mesh Jackets on new enough at keeping you cool?
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Jun 15, 2008 15:45
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French Canadian posted:It seems like Teknic is the only company that makes leather jackets with the entirety of the front surface perforated. And all of those jackets, like the Chicane, are discontinued. I tried to get a Chicane jacket from about 3 different online stores, all my orders got canceled. You have your Alpinestars jackets with the shoulder vents and stuff but those are usually pushing $400 or so. I don't know the answer to that one but I do not that Fieldsheer has a fully perforated leather jacket. Also I think the jackets at High Velocity gear are fully perforated, but I don't know how good of a brand they are.
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Jun 15, 2008 16:55
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TLG James posted:How effective are those Mesh Jackets on new enough at keeping you cool? I have a mesh jacket I use for riding in the summer, and its certainly breatheable, but I wouldn't say that it "keeps you cool". Its still hot, but its faaaaaar better than anything else I've tried while still being bearable.
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iamthexander posted:I'm just beginning to consider kicking around getting a new bike and/or gear once fall rolls around. I already have a mesh jacket, and I was thinking about getting some sort of perforated leather jacket, or a textile/leather jacket. I live in Arizona, so the summers see 105+ degrees outside easy. The rest of the year is generally pretty nice, so I think a perf'd leather jacket would be a good addition to my closet. I've bought 3 rev'it products at this point and I have to say they're on par with the expensive and really nice BMW apparel. They use very high quality materials and zippers. They also pair all the products I've bought with a 3 part layering system that helps me control my temperature and weather protection very nicely. The only downside is that their layering system works internally only so if it starts to rain you've got to take your jacket off to get the waterproof shell on underneath it.
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Jun 16, 2008 04:43
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Any thoughts on the Icon Field Armor Vest? http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Icon_Field_Armor_Vest--35-ICON05-1.html Mixed reviews around the web... I'm more concerned with the back protection it offers over a standard back plate that goes in the jacket. Also, reading this thread has really made me second guess my purchasing decisions. I purchased mesh jacket and pants and am really considering returning them as soon as they arrive.
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Jun 17, 2008 00:22
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:Mixed reviews around the web... I'm more concerned with the back protection it offers over a standard back plate that goes in the jacket. The back protector part looks okay, and I like the vest idea as it's less likely to move around in the event of an accident. However, it seems like they should have put more thought into protecting the collarbone than it looks like they did, as that's a very common injury in motorcycle accidents. I'd say it's probably better than a standalone back protector, but not as good as some alternative vests out there. I think Dainese might offer a better one, for example, but you'll pay a lot for it. As for the mesh gear, keep in mind "the best gear is the gear you'll use." It's not as good as leather or, probably, normal textile stuff, but you're far more likely to wear it. When it's 100 degrees outside and you tell yourself you're only riding a few blocks, you'll probably wear the mesh if you have it. If leather's all you had you might decide to play squid, go without gear, and live to regret it.
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Jun 17, 2008 00:39
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Mesh is fine, just remember that it's a one shot garment. And make sure you have the CE armor in it. Splurge for the extra knee padding if the pants didn't come with it. I would rather wear a full jacket with an improved back protector than a vest ANY day. The vest will just be cumbersome, and could potentially become a reason NOT to wear the regular jacket (too many layers, more protection than a jacket etc etc). And for the record, there are better labels you could buy. Icon won't disintegrate or anything, but it isn't known for superior quality either.
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Jun 17, 2008 00:44
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The jacket I'm buying has foam padding in the back, but I also wanted to get something extra. The icon vest would be in addition to the A* mesh jacket I'm getting. I saw someone riding with just the vest on, and that struck me as odd since you'd be leaving your arms open to road rash if you went down. I'm used to wearing a bullet proof vest at my job, so I think I'd feel right at home with the icon vest. The other back protectors that slip into the jacket pockets don't seem to me that they'd stay firmly in place unless the jacket is skin tight... But I have no experience wearing gear so I don't know... Thanks for the input, guys! Edit - Actually, the riding pants I got are textile and not mesh. http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Fieldsheer_Apollo_Pant--506192.html The Shep fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Jun 17, 2008 |
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Jun 17, 2008 00:56
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:The jacket I'm buying has foam padding in the back, but I also wanted to get something extra. The icon vest would be in addition to the A* mesh jacket I'm getting. Whats wrong with a regular back protector like: http://www.newenough.com/armor/back_protector_worn_on_the_body/joe_rocket/speedmaster_motorcycle_back_protector.html Worn under the jacket instead of in it so it doesn't move around.
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Jun 17, 2008 01:30
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That's the point - the Icon vest is worn under the jacket. I liked the icon vest because of it's style, lower price, and chest protection as well. How much weight should I put in "CE" approval? The Icon vest is not CE approved, and I just noticed this.
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Jun 17, 2008 01:45
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What is the best way to go about attaching a zipper to either a pair of pants or a jacket? I got my JR Blaster pants today, and as would be expected, they don't mate up with my Teknic jacket. Both of them have a 360* zipper along with an 8" zipper. The odd thing is that the 360* zipper on the pants is considerably longer than that on the jacket. The way it looks, the only way to use one of the long zippers is to attach the jacket zipper to the pants. Should I try to attach the jacket zipper to the pants or will I be fine using the 8" zipper from the pants on the jacket? Also, is there any one kind of thread better to use than another, or is it pretty much all the same?
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Jun 17, 2008 02:23
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Found some Kevlar jeans with built in CE knee armor on Cyclegear today. I'd link them directly but I think the url is unique for my session. Just do a search for "RED ROUTE Rider Baggy Denim Motorcycle Jeans" They look pretty good and again have CE knee armor. They are out of stock/back ordered but I'll see if I can find them anywhere. I ordered some Shift Lodowns but they are also back ordered. EDIT: Seems to be a hard to find British brand seemingly only available in the UK. drat. Drunk Pledge Driver fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Jun 17, 2008 |
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Cmdr. Shepard posted:That's the point - the Icon vest is worn under the jacket. I liked the icon vest because of it's style, lower price, and chest protection as well. How much weight should I put in "CE" approval? The Icon vest is not CE approved, and I just noticed this. Well, considering how little it takes to get a level one CE rating, I definitely wouldn't put any faith in something thats not CE approved. Just because it looks protective doesn't mean it actually is. The foam in the back of most jackets isn't CE approved either, so it likely isn't going to be any good either. Personally, I wouldn't buy a back protector thats not CE level 2. Got this thing about being paralyzed. I have that Joe Rocket back protector which is a rebranded TPro Forcefield. Because its flexible and not overly bulky its comfortable and I actually wear it. Plus its CE level 2 so it will actually protect me in a fall. I also have one of these: http://highvelocitygear.com/productpages/juggernaut.html which has a chest protector and other armor on it and is also CE level 2, but its really uncomfortable so it sits in a trunk in my closet.
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I owned the icon field armor vest for awhile. I wouldn't recommend it. The chest protection is basically non-existant, there is no collarbone protection, it doesn't vent well on the bike, it's bulkier than you want on a setup like that. It also started to wear heavily on the seams after regular use, which was pretty lame. Just buy a normal back protector that fits comfortably under your jacket. I'd be amazed if you happened to get in an accident where the chest protection on the icon vest did a drat thing. There's no real engineering in the protection aspect of it either, it's just interlinked plates that you can bend pretty much any which way and the only thing it's going to maybe stop would be you getting stabbed with something. I wouldn't trust it to protect my spine from any impact at all. Upside is, when you resell it, there's always squids looking for one.
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