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pazrs posted:The flag state has more to do with ships owner, not the nationality of the crew. Not really. It depends on the flag state - for example a Canadian flag vessel has to be owned by a Canadian person (Either moral or actual) and crewed by Canadians. America has similar rules, and they're even stricter for vessels engaged in the coasting trade. Different countries have different rules, however - I spent some time on a Bahamas-flagged vessel that was owned by the Bahamian subsidiary of a Scandinavian-owned American company, and I think 3% of the crew were Bahamians. For what it's worth, last time I spoke with a UK vessel on the VHF, the OOW over there certainly wasn't a native English speaker.
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Australia is investigating opening a second register for Australian-flagged vessels to trade internationally, the tax and manning requirements would be different to the current system where you can have non-Australian crew, but they get paid in accordance with Australian EBAs (Enterprise Bargaining Agreements). I think Australia needs to go to a system with Australian officers and engineers but foreign crew. Our I.R.s (equivalent to ABs) are ridiculously uncompetitive.
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The overboard valves are completely hosed to the point where the evaps fill up with seawater at least once a watch, the sewage system has overflowed three times since I got here a week ago, the regulating valve for the starboard boiler doesn't work so the cadet has to manually maintain the level (at least, when yours truly doesn't crack the valve just so ), the hotwell is a big pile of rust that sometimes holds some water, DG3 overspun to 1000rpm a few weeks ago before I arrived (rated for 514), the port boiler just spun the bearings for the atomizing cup because the office wouldn't loving listen when we kept telling them it had an unbalanced cup and JUST TODAY the new one turns up but now we need new bearings, an ER exhaust fan bangs like a poltergeist...There is literally nowhere else in the world I'd rather be right now. Call me crazy, but I'm loving it.
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Two Finger posted:The overboard valves are completely hosed to the point where the evaps fill up with seawater at least once a watch, the sewage system has overflowed three times since I got here a week ago, the regulating valve for the starboard boiler doesn't work so the cadet has to manually maintain the level (at least, when yours truly doesn't crack the valve just so What ship is that? Sounds like APL...
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Prefer not to say which ship to be honest. I'm sure you understand. Great learning experience though.
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Trench_Rat posted:I've been geeking out lately on marinetraffic.com and seen alot of UK flagged tankers operating both in the north-sea and international. Are these ship UK crewed or is there some sort of "international" (filipinos and eastern europeans) UK flag and domestic UK flag I occasionally look at boats over the internet and don't know anything about who gets to do what where, but one thing that magnifies it is that there are a lot of ships registered in f.e the Isle of Man etc which are technically 'UK' (and show up as such on the webpage thing) but presumably get the usual tax evasion etc bonuses thrown in. e: for example, this one. or one of the Australian tankers someone mentioned earlier
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You know things are getting weird in the E/R when the 1st starts a list on the galley whiteboard titled "Systems being run by the Fire/Emergency Pump" 
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Jun 13, 2013 07:59
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If it's summer and you're not using the fire pump for "Crew moral and entertainment", you're on a lameboat. Sprinkler on the poop deck errday.
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MEBA People: If I was Group II and stopped sailing for a year or year and half, then tried to go back, would I drop down to Group III? Do I get bumped up with next batch of Group III's to II's after one sailing job or do i have to start over and get necessary number of sailing days? Someone get me a 2 a/e Matson job plz k thx.
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Jun 19, 2013 10:54
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Fish Shalami posted:Someone get me a 2 a/e Matson job plz k thx. Those are the best jobs ever, as a cadet I learned what the best job looked like.
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ahahahahahahaahahahaha a chainblock got wrapped around the shaft today ever seen a chain spinning at 120rpm????
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Company sounds like a poo poo show engineering jobs are a dime a dozen get out of there before you lose your ticket or a limb or something.
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Two Finger posted:ahahahahahahaahahahaha a chainblock got wrapped around the shaft today ever seen a chain spinning at 120rpm???? That sounds horrifying and hilarious at the same time. What's the damage?
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Fish Shalami posted:That sounds horrifying and hilarious at the same time. What's the damage? One broken chain block, lots of chipped paint, some bruised pride, and maybe some dents or scratches.
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sharkytm posted:One broken chain block, lots of chipped paint, some bruised pride, and maybe some dents or scratches. Bingo. Not the pride though, wasn't me.
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My new favourite phonecall happened a few days ago. Bridge: Erm, yes, hello, we have no phones. I was crying because I was laughing so hard.
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Been studying the theory and process of Main Engine Crankshaft deflections. College is a putting a far larger emphasis on it then I expected. Which usually means its a common point of failure when you go for orals. How to deal with an unknown boiler water level was the biggest failure point I think. On donkey boilers at least. Trip the loving thing!
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Make loving sure you can blow down a gauge glass in your sleep. It was a pass/fail thing in my orals.
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Man the Blueseed thread is almost as funny for peoples' ideas of how ships work as it is for the actual libertarian hilarity content.
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shovelbum posted:Man the Blueseed thread is almost as funny for peoples' ideas of how ships work as it is for the actual libertarian hilarity content. Seriously I need to either stop browsing the gibbis or start drinking again. The sad part is that those ideas of how ships operate are widespread in the general population... Including amongst people who have a direct influence on how we operate. It's mind-boggling, really. Part of it is the industry's fault, mind you. We tend to have a somewhat "You either know this or you don't" approach, so we really haven't made the effort to educate the public. Take the airline industry, for example; they've got dozens of shows about planes, plane crash investigations, pilots, airports... Meanwhile we have Mighty Ships, and uh... Yeah. Captain Philip: The Movie and Whale Wars, I guess? I guess part of it is people just aren't interested, but the shipping industry really hasn't done much to get people interested anyway. Speaking of, is that Tom Hanks movie out yet? Is it any good?
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shovelbum posted:Man the Blueseed thread is almost as funny for peoples' ideas of how ships work as it is for the actual libertarian hilarity content. Can you post some choice quotes for those of us who have to pay for internet by the minute at the moment?
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Two Finger posted:Can you post some choice quotes for those of us who have to pay for internet by the minute at the moment? Heh, just the usual GBSery, nothing extraordinary really: SevenSixTwoX39 posted:Doesn't really matter what the weather is like with a cruise ship-sized vessel. sixide posted:Keep in mind cruise ships are often not very stable with so much weight up high. They are built primarily to cram in as much moneymaking stuff as possible, with comfort secondary. Safety is somewhere farther down the list of priorities. Context: Why aren't they just using an oil rig? Nessus posted:Insufficient room for a terraced garden overlooking my minions. Alternately, oil rigs are regulated and you can just buy a lovely old ship for cheap! It's just that GBS feeling of banging your head against a wall. The "PYF Favorite Scary thing on Wikipedia" thread has a bit of discussion about disappearances off cruise ships, too - Did you know cruise boats are the ideal hunting grounds for human trafficers? To steal passengers from, not crewmembers, because that'd make way too much sense.
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Double post for actual content: The Carnival Splendor (The Spam one, not the poo poo one) accident report is out: "GCaptain posted:The Coast Guard report released today said that the vessel suffered a major mechanical failure in the number five diesel generator, resulting in the fire. The post-casualty analysis of the incident has revealed that the installed Hi-Fog (water mist) system for local protection took 15 minutes minutes to activate after the initial fire started, which allowed the fire to spread to the overhead cables and eventually cause the loss of power. This delay was the result of a bridge watchstander resetting the fire alarm panel on the bridge, the Coast Guard said.  Goddamnit Carnival.
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I worked on an ammunition ship that would constantly get false fire alarms in the holds due to bad wiring and humidity. It was magical with something like 15 thousand tons of Net Explosive Weight onboard. 
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Azipod posted:I worked on an ammunition ship that would constantly get false fire alarms in the holds due to bad wiring and humidity. It was magical with something like 15 thousand tons of Net Explosive Weight onboard.  Goddamn. Part of me is like "Just silence and deactivate that thing" and the other is... gently caress. What did you guys do, check every single time? How many people did you have on watch?
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15 man crew, so just a mate and AB/Bosun on the bridge watches. After it kept going off during a Suez transit and freaking out the pilot the CHENG kind of accidentally on purpose broke it. MSC told us to keep on sailing.  The poor Egyptian pilot was so freaked out he left the ship WITHOUT ANY CIGARETTES.
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Azipod posted:The poor Egyptian pilot was so freaked out he left the ship WITHOUT ANY CIGARETTES. Any of you ever sailed with a captain who likes to communicate his desire for changing over manoeuvring to sea mode (or vice versa), or even starting the engine at all, by calling the engine room and yelling in the receiver: "CAPTAIN ON THE BRIDGE!" without any additional information? Boy, he got the chief engineer upset quick. Of course, when the chief was relieved and our captain wanted the engines to be prepared, he called up the new guy and told him: "captain on the bridge!" It stayed quiet for a few moments, then the chief replied: "chief engineer in engineroom!" And hung up the phone.
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Herman Brood posted:Any of you ever sailed with a captain who likes to communicate his desire for changing over manoeuvring to sea mode (or vice versa), or even starting the engine at all, by calling the engine room and yelling in the receiver: "CAPTAIN ON THE BRIDGE!" without any additional information? Boy, he got the chief engineer upset quick. I just wouldn't start the stand by. In fact we never did until we hear the words '1 hours notice' from whomever is on the bridge. Then write that in the log. Until then its magazine reading time! 'Oh you want engines NOW captain?, Ok give us an hour.' *Click*. Manoeuvring to nav full. and vice versa the FUBs can do whenever they want. It does automatic Load Up/Load Down anyway and slowly ramps the revs. At least then the JCW keeps up.
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Herman Brood posted:Any of you ever sailed with a captain who likes to communicate his desire for changing over manoeuvring to sea mode (or vice versa), or even starting the engine at all, by calling the engine room and yelling in the receiver: "CAPTAIN ON THE BRIDGE!" without any additional information? Boy, he got the chief engineer upset quick. What an rear end in a top hat. He probably pulled this poo poo on the bridge officers, too. I bet that guy was a fricking BRM nightmare. "You want the conn cap?" "Well I'm on the drat bridge ain't I?" Although I did give an hour's notice by singing the first few bars of "Stand by me" in a sound powered telephone once... Engineer called me back and hour later and sang "Stand by your man" until I flipped the telegraph over. We'd been on watch together a while by that point, mind you.
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I called the bridge yesterday while underway to tell them I was about to start the steering gear tests. There was dead silence for a few seconds, then '....what? Oh... you absolute TWAT.' Hung up, phone rings a few seconds later, 'Just to let you know I'm deploying CO2 to the ECR.' Lol.
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FrozenVent posted:What an rear end in a top hat. He probably pulled this poo poo on the bridge officers, too. I bet that guy was a fricking BRM nightmare. "You want the conn cap?" "Well I'm on the drat bridge ain't I?" What's that, cap? The C/O and I aren't "experienced" enough to handle watchkeeping after dark? You will take the watch from 20:00 until 08:00, all by yourself, no-one allowed on the bridge, not even a loving lookout? Thanks for wishing me a good rest, rear end in a top hat. You're seriously deluded if you think I'm going to sleep for even 5 minutes.
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Herman Brood posted:You bet. Ahahaha what the gently caress, really? Night watch by his own goddamn self, for eight hours? No way. You have got to be making GBS threads me. How long did that go on? Edit: gCaptain keeps bring it today:   (http://gcaptain.com/ship-pilot-ladder-failure/ for reference) FrozenVent fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Jul 16, 2013 |
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Of course from the linked article there...
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shovelbum posted:Of course from the linked article there... It's like they took the "Don't do this" picture from that "How to set up a pilot ladder" poster and uh... Yeah. How do you even get those things to bend? Is that poo poo plastic? Every one I've seen was wood, with the bottom five step rubber and non-skid rubbery stuff on every rung. Those things are expensive as all gently caress, too. gently caress boarding a boat on a pilot ladder. gently caress signing off on one even more.
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FrozenVent posted:gently caress boarding a boat on a pilot ladder. gently caress signing off on one even more. Yeah when I got off at the mailboat last month they just lowered a long aluminum ladder. That was enough fun.
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On the subject of pilot ladders, one of my academy classmates sent me this photo from a training cruise. I give you "Samoan Spiderman"  Somehow he didn't die.
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FrozenVent posted:Double post for actual content: quote:The Coast Guard report released today said that the vessel suffered a major mechanical failure in the number five diesel generator, resulting in the fire. The post-casualty analysis of the incident has revealed that the installed Hi-Fog (water mist) system for local protection took 15 minutes minutes to activate after the initial fire started, which allowed the fire to spread to the overhead cables and eventually cause the loss of power. This delay was the result of a bridge watchstander resetting the fire alarm panel on the bridge, the Coast Guard said. quote:This delay was the result of a bridge watchstander resetting the fire alarm panel on the bridge, quote:
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Well, it finally happened; I've started having dreams about the job.  Dreamt that someone tried to blame me for hitting a quay even though I wasn't on watch at the time.
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