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The problem is mass murder and suicide rates because of the ease of access to guns and a criminal subculture isn't "A dumb decision". It's stuff like this is why we have government to begin with. Obviously you didn't say that but it's just an important distinction to make.
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DeusExMachinima posted:They ought to have probable cause though. Not for a checkpoint that pulls everybody over regardless of status. Driving definitely ain't a right. It'd be a whole different thing with say, a checkpoint that picked at "random" and "randomly" pulled over all the black people and one white dude.
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Oct 2, 2015 22:54
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http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/09/alabama_sends_message_we_are_t.html Oi so by the looks of it Republicans'
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Nintendo Kid posted:Not for a checkpoint that pulls everybody over regardless of status. Driving definitely ain't a right. Maybe if they had some sort of breathalyzer robot that could check the drivers without involving a cop. All of us know quite well all of the dumb poo poo cops often do during traffic stops.
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Oct 2, 2015 23:00
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Meat Recital posted:She said something like "at this point what difference does it make?" during a Benghazi hearing, and they trotted that line out for years trying to make her seem callous and indifferent. As recently as July 2: Rorus Raz posted:Mike Lester would like to take the time to remind you to vote for Bernie Sanders
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Oct 2, 2015 23:07
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MaxxBot posted:Maybe if they had some sort of breathalyzer robot that could check the drivers without involving a cop. All of us know quite well all of the dumb poo poo cops often do during traffic stops. We all know that bio-cops will eventually find a way to hack those robots so that they can spoof a >0.08 BAC. And equip them with a gun and skin color index peripheral 
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Oct 2, 2015 23:07
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Dr. Killjoy posted:http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/09/alabama_sends_message_we_are_t.html Whatever we didn't do in reconstruction we're paying for it in spades. I'm thinking constitutional convention, reduce every former confederate state to one senator and remove all congressional districts so the people get to vote for proportional representation And then burn all the plantations again gently caress the south
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Oct 2, 2015 23:14
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Killer robot posted:I remember that. A million parents saw a story on CNN about Four Loko as the greatest new threat to college students, and immediately put down their rum and coke to call their senators to make sure something was DONE about the dangers of caffeinated alcohol. It's a pretty great model of crisis response, we should definitely follow it. If you add the chalky poo poo from energy drinks to vodka you get psychotic rage.
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Oct 2, 2015 23:18
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Killer robot posted:The thing is a lot of people know about guns: how they technically work, what's popular and why, how they're used in crime, and how criminal and legitimate use varies. You don't need to be a manufacturer, or a "gun nut" or whatever, and just a little technical and practical knowledge would put you leaps and bounds ahead of the writers of most laws on the books. I think you have the right idea here.
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Oct 2, 2015 23:22
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hhhat posted:Whatever we didn't do in reconstruction we're paying for it in spades. So in response to disenfranchisement of voters in Alabama is to sarcastically propose further disenfranchisement?
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Nintendo Kid posted:Not for a checkpoint that pulls everybody over regardless of status. Driving definitely ain't a right. Probably half of the DUI checkpoints I've been through didn't stop every car. Should those use probable cause? Nelson Mandingo posted:The problem is mass murder and suicide rates because of the ease of access to guns and a criminal subculture isn't "A dumb decision". It's stuff like this is why we have government to begin with. Obviously you didn't say that but it's just an important distinction to make. There some ways that can help without involving victimless crimes, and sometimes you can't. Avoiding victimless crimes is more important than deciding what's necessary in an individual's lifestyle. Really though everyone knows (including fishmech) that handgun bans and confiscations are never going to happen in the US, ever, which is about what it'd take to do in mass shootings as a trend. The Columbine shootings racked up their body count during the assault weapons ban with compliant weapons. Even though I disagree with gun control advocates, I feel kinda bad in the sense that if they ever got what they wanted (mag limits and AWB federally again) you could imagine their growing horror when it just doesn't stop. 
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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I'm kind of an old man now and don't drink to excess very often, but when I do.. I really enjoy the drunk from energy drinks + alcohol. It's pretty much the only way I can stay up past 10 anway... Also regarding the pool fences, let the Private Sector (cue chorus of angels) fix the problem by jacking up rates on those who choose not to put one up. Problem solved. I'll take my Koch check now.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:The problem is mass murder and suicide rates because of the ease of access to guns and a criminal subculture isn't "A dumb decision". It's stuff like this is why we have government to begin with. This is why I think the scorched earth never-give-an-inch approach of the NRA and the like will ultimately bite them in the rear end, however well it might be working now. Complaining about bad or reactionary legislation like Jeb is doing stops working if you have no suggestions of your own and the issue keeps coming back. As with healthcare, eventually something's going to get passed, and they'll have lost the chance to have input on what it is because of the refusal to engage. MaxxBot posted:Maybe if they had some sort of breathalyzer robot that could check the drivers without involving a cop. All of us know quite well all of the dumb poo poo cops often do during traffic stops. I'd be pretty OK with every car coming with an ignition interlock. Maybe not the random checks while driving, since in aggregate that would be a lot of distraction of sober drivers while on the road. But to start the car, sure. Servicing so many of them could be a big logistics issue, though.
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MaxxBot posted:You shouldn't be able to pull someone over without evidence that they actually did anything wrong. It's not a pro-drunk driving position to not want people pulled over at random to check their BAC. This is fascinating to read living somewhere where police routinely stop people at random for breathalyzer tests and the practice is utterly inert politically, but then I remembered that our police don't have a tendency to shoot people on traffic stops. Like, they put on high-vis jackets and go stand at a randomly picked spot and systematically stop every car passing by for a while, then move the operation somewhere else.
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Antti posted:This is fascinating to read living somewhere where police routinely stop people at random for breathalyzer tests and the practice is utterly inert politically, but then I remembered that our police don't have a tendency to shoot people on traffic stops. Parts of the U.S. do have checkpoints like that. A checkpoint is different than someone being pulled over at random.
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Both The Atlantic and The Hill are running articles suggesting that Chaffetz's criticisms of McCarthy are a signal that he's going to make a leadership run. Not sure I see it, but he'd definitely make more of a challenge than Webster. EDIT: Also, Vitter's gubernatorial bid seems to be in trouble. I wonder if the RGA taking money out of the Bevin race is because they're worried about losing Louisiana. Franco Potente fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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Oct 2, 2015 23:47
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jeb! posted:"A child drowns in a pool and the impulse is to pass a law that puts fencing around pools," Bush said. "Well it may not change it or you have a car accident and the impulse is to pass a law that deals with that unique event and the cumulative effect of this is in some cases, you don’t solve the problem by passing the law, and you’re imposing on large numbers of people, burdens that make it harder for our economy to grow, make it harder for people to protect liberty, and that is, the whole conversation today was exactly about that." Jeb, the might have a bit more punch *if you hadn't signed a pool fence bill as gov* (sponsored by DWS!): http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2000-05-26/news/0005260161_1_pool-safety-new-pools-ibern quote:TALLAHASSEE — Three years after launching her battle for pool safety, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz saw her efforts become law on Thursday with the signature of Gov. Jeb Bush.
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JehovahsWetness posted:Jeb, the might have a bit more punch *if you hadn't signed a pool fence bill as gov* (sponsored by DWS!): GOLD Jerry, That's GOLD!
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JehovahsWetness posted:Jeb, the might have a bit more punch *if you hadn't signed a pool fence bill as gov* (sponsored by DWS!): Wow.
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JehovahsWetness posted:Jeb, the might have a bit more punch *if you hadn't signed a pool fence bill as gov* (sponsored by DWS!): Did you find that, or is this something that's being talked about in the media? Either way that's just...wow.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/john-hanlin-sandy-hook-truther In other news, that Sheriff that covers the county yesterday's shooting was in and also sent the letter to Biden is also a Sandy Hook Truther. 
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Oct 2, 2015 23:59
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Four Loko doesn't kill people. People who drink Four Loko kill people. namely themselves, becaues they drank four loko
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JehovahsWetness posted:Jeb, the might have a bit more punch *if you hadn't signed a pool fence bill as gov* (sponsored by DWS!): This is almost as funny as Jindal's "volcano studies" statement.
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eviltastic posted:Did you find that, or is this something that's being talked about in the media? Either way that's just...wow. Twitter machine: https://twitter.com/KagroX/status/650069589590736896 . Actual bill: http://laws.flrules.org/files/Ch_2000-143.pdf
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That's amazing. How is Jeb SO bad at this politics thing?
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JehovahsWetness posted:Jeb, the might have a bit more punch *if you hadn't signed a pool fence bill as gov* (sponsored by DWS!): That is the single most outstanding thing I will see today.
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STAC Goat posted:That's amazing. How is Jeb SO bad at this politics thing? Guess what else is amazing, the new title of this thread. Thanks friendly Mod/Admin!
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Trabisnikof posted:So in response to disenfranchisement of voters in Alabama is to sarcastically propose further disenfranchisement? Shut up and help me light this torch
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STAC Goat posted:That's amazing. How is Jeb SO bad at this politics thing? Real answer: he's never truly had to campaign before, and his wins to date have been more or less handed to him by the political machine his father and his father's party set up in Florida. On a national stage, where you have to perform, he simply does not know what to do. He has essentially zero experience in actually being a politician.
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Franco Potente posted:Both The Atlantic and The Hill are running articles suggesting that Chaffetz's criticisms of McCarthy are a signal that he's going to make a leadership run. Not sure I see it, but he'd definitely make more of a challenge than Webster. Roll Call today had a blurb about he was definitely running for Speakership
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Meat Recital posted:She said something like "at this point what difference does it make?" during a Benghazi hearing, and they trotted that line out for years trying to make her seem callous and indifferent. If Jeb! had said "what difference does it make" in response to being hounded as to whether or not this shooting was a spontaneous response to a youtube video or a premeditated attack as if being wrong about that was a criminal act, liberals would have hopefully withheld their criticism. Since that didn't happen who the gently caress cares
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Fried Chicken posted:Roll Call today had a blurb about he was definitely running for Speakership You know, in Hebrew, "chaffetz" means "he desires" or something desirable.
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Oct 3, 2015 00:19
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Did we talk about Obama saying he won't sign another CR yet?
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Trabisnikof posted:Did we talk about Obama saying he won't sign another CR yet? No. And can we change the thread title to USPOOL?
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Well, we all know about Obama and red lines, but he said he won't negotiate on the debt ceiling and won't sign another CR. so that's staking out an aggressive position to start at least.
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Alligator Horse posted:No. And can we change the thread title to USPOOL? Second
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Trabisnikof posted:Well, we all know about Obama and red lines, but he said he won't negotiate on the debt ceiling and won't sign another CR. so that's staking out an aggressive position to start at least. Suppose Boehner steps down and the GOP and/or House are so split nobody gets elected Speaker. What happens?
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STAC Goat posted:That's amazing. How is Jeb SO bad at this politics thing? Dude reeks of an entitled rich kid that's had everything handed to him. His responses to reporters questioning his statements are always so standoffish. Absurd Alhazred posted:Suppose Boehner steps down and the GOP and/or House are so split nobody gets elected Speaker. What happens? Speaker Pelosi!
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Suppose Boehner steps down and the GOP and/or House are so split nobody gets elected Speaker. What happens? Diamond Joe steps in to name Ronnie James Dio the new Speaker. And poo poo gets DONE.
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