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absolutely anything posted:Mario World is an expertly crafted game but I have no real passion for it and Mario 3 is better in like every way
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absolutely anything posted:Mario World is an expertly crafted game but I have no real passion for it and Mario 3 is better in like every way
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Jun 12, 2017 03:48
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FilthyImp posted:SmB3 doesn't save my progress tho. All-stars does and crappy music aside it's my preferred way to play.
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Jun 12, 2017 03:54
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I never said I hated SMW, I just don't think it's that great. It's a fun game and I've played through it a handful of times. But part of it is that a lot of the levels are pretty forgettable and one of the items you get basically lets you skip almost every level once you've mastered using it. People have opinions.  al-azad posted:All-stars does and crappy music aside it's my preferred way to play. It's a real shame that the All-Stars versions of SMB1 and Lost Levels have a pretty massive bug with the brick breaking physics, otherwise they're all basically flawless ports... aside from the butchering of World 9 in Lost Levels.
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Jun 12, 2017 04:22
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Zaphod42 posted:Eh sometimes, but not allways. All kinds of games ship with unused content on the ROM or disc. Ocarina of Time has unused levels, Goldeneye has test levels with broken height map data, GTA had the infamous "Hot Coffee" fiasco... Wasn't there a Tiger Woods game on the PSX that had a South Park episode as space filler?
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Jun 12, 2017 04:38
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Instant Sunrise posted:Wasn't there a Tiger Woods game on the PSX that had a South Park episode as space filler? Not space filler, it was an employee sharing the video and forgetting to remove it.
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Jun 12, 2017 04:45
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I always thought SMW was pretty good, but to this day, I can't control the cape to save my life.
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Jun 12, 2017 04:50
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Allen Wren posted:I always thought SMW was pretty good, but to this day, I can't control the cape to save my life. Really? The cape is great, just dive until Mario's face is almost perpendicular with the ground then pull up. I don't think it's possible to lose altitude. Now the loving feather cap, let me tell you. When Woody describes Buzz's flying as "falling with style" he was actually talking about the feather cap.
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Jun 12, 2017 05:16
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There's a Midway N64 hockey game game that's full of holiday photos from Dave Lang because they had some space left over and felt it would be wasteful to not fill it with something. EDIT this one: https://tcrf.net/NHL_Breakaway_98_(Nintendo_64) "At the end of the game's development, N64 programmers Dave Lang and Tom Carbone noticed that they had about a megabyte of free space left in the ROM. Considering it "un-American" to leave it unused, they decided to fill it with a slideshow with photos of themselves and their friends and families, because why not? The slideshow was hidden behind a button combination, but unfortunately nobody involved can remember it. Luckily, we can bruteforce our way in: use GameShark code 8013CEBF 0038 and select any option on the main menu." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D09yz9N0T-E
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Jun 12, 2017 05:16
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al-azad posted:Not space filler, it was an employee sharing the video and forgetting to remove it. Also not an episode, it was the Spirit of Christmas video that was getting shared around that pre-dated the show. Since they were inadvertantly pirating the video, that version of the game had to be recalled.
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Jun 12, 2017 05:42
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:There's a Midway N64 hockey game game that's full of holiday photos from Dave Lang because they had some space left over and felt it would be wasteful to not fill it with something. Why did you bring up on this thread the Lang Zone?
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Jun 12, 2017 06:22
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Wow, Lang has not really aged all that much.
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Jun 12, 2017 06:37
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I recently heard someone say that the majority of NES games aren't good. Initially I thought that statement was crap but after thinking a bit I started wondering if he might be right. What percent of NES games do you thin are crap/shovelware??
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Jun 12, 2017 09:40
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Wizgot posted:I recently heard someone say that the majority of NES games aren't good. Initially I thought that statement was crap but after thinking a bit I started wondering if he might be right. What percent of NES games do you thin are crap/shovelware?? I have a little over 60 NES games, with a few of them being crap, and I have a few games on my wishlist. The total library is over 700 titles? I can believe it. I'm currently sitting at like 10% of the library. I'm sure there's lots of good or even okay games that I don't have or don't even know, but there's gotta be a good 50% of lovely lovely poo poo games, yeah. Nintendo seal of quality!!
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Jun 12, 2017 09:53
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I was wondering, as well, if the same thing happens to games today. Has the quality of videogames really gone up? I'm sure. I still think there are loads of lovely and mediocre games that come out today for modern systems.
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Jun 12, 2017 10:08
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Jun 12, 2017 10:10
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And I'd say the number spikes a bit if we add in other regions and don't just go NES. There was some real shite on the Famicom that never saw the light here.
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Jun 12, 2017 10:29
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NES had a lot of crap games but I'd say a relatively low percentage of that was "shovelware", it just wasn't very good. I feel like the really awful throwaway games didn't show up in bulk until the Playstation era and pretty much every dedicated gaming system from then on got a ton of shovelware, until smartphones blew up and all the trashy cash-in games went there instead.
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Jun 12, 2017 10:47
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Wizgot posted:I was wondering, as well, if the same thing happens to games today. Has the quality of videogames really gone up? I'm sure. I still think there are loads of lovely and mediocre games that come out today for modern systems. The games industry is way bigger so there's way more crap today than ever before. But we have more ways of filtering it and finding the good ones. But like, just look at the iOS store alone, that dwarfs all the shovelware from NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube, combined. Easily.
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Jun 12, 2017 10:54
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:I feel like the really awful throwaway games didn't show up in bulk until the Playstation era and pretty much every dedicated gaming system from then on got a ton of shovelware, until smartphones blew up and all the trashy cash-in games went there instead. I don't know. Have you seen Steam lately?
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Jun 12, 2017 12:27
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Random Stranger posted:I don't know. Have you seen Steam lately? In this case I think you have to differentiate between AAA studios and small independent studios/people.
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Jun 12, 2017 12:32
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My OSSC is taking so long to fit with the audio board that I basically forgot I even ordered it until I got a status update yesterday 
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Jun 12, 2017 12:54
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In "...huh." news, Hyperkin are bringing back "The Duke" for Xbox One and Windows 10, with the endorsement of original Xbox co-creator Seamus Blackley. The original design is augmented with shoulder bumpers, a detachable 9-foot-long cable, and, uh, a lil' screen displaying an animated logo in place of the original sticker. It's still gonna be big as gently caress, though. No word on price or release date beyond "Holiday 2017".
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Jun 12, 2017 13:38
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Zaphod42 posted:The games industry is way bigger so there's way more crap today than ever before. But we have more ways of filtering it and finding the good ones. This right here. I'd say the ratio of good-to-bad among published games is better than it was 30 years ago because companies can't afford to release true stinkers anymore (although mediocre games to me are worst than outright broken games) but even among thousands of lovely cash-ins that get released monthly there are thousands of people diligently telling me which ones are worth my money.
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Jun 12, 2017 13:48
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Random Stranger posted:I don't know. Have you seen Steam lately? True, but I think a lot of the poo poo you see on PC nowadays is driven by different motivations... "shovelware" is publishers cashing in on a license or fad without giving a gently caress about quality but so much of what shows up on Steam is clearly just my-first-project stuff made by people with no clear motivation and no real attempt to appeal to anyone, so I'm not bothered by it in the same way because it can be naive and crass but it's usually harmless.
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Jun 12, 2017 13:54
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The Kins posted:In "...huh." news, Hyperkin are bringing back "The Duke" for Xbox One and Windows 10, with the endorsement of original Xbox co-creator Seamus Blackley. Honestly, I never found the Duke the slightest bit uncomfortable despite having small hands. The Controller S was an improvement in most ways, but I didn't mind the original at all.
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Jun 12, 2017 13:59
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Doc Morbid posted:I doubt anyone went "man, OG Xbox backwards compatibility for the Xbone is cool, but I wish I could play those games with the Duke controller", but I kinda love the fact we'll have the option to do so. I never would have thought of it, but I really like the idea. I still need to get ahold of a duke controller for my OG Xbox.
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Jun 12, 2017 14:06
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The first thing that came to mind was that the d-pad looks like it was seriously heat-warped 
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Jun 12, 2017 15:00
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Martytoof posted:The first thing that came to mind was that the d-pad looks like it was seriously heat-warped Whenever I look at the Duke's d-pad, all I can think of is "man, I really liked the old Sidewinder pad - I'm glad they went with that".
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Jun 12, 2017 17:13
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The Kins posted:In "...huh." news, Hyperkin are bringing back "The Duke" for Xbox One and Windows 10, with the endorsement of original Xbox co-creator Seamus Blackley. I love the Duke and I will buy one of these as long as it isn't $gently caress expensive. It fits my monstrously large hands so nicely.
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Jun 12, 2017 17:20
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The Kins posted:In "...huh." news, Hyperkin are bringing back "The Duke" for Xbox One and Windows 10, with the endorsement of original Xbox co-creator Seamus Blackley. Now just bring the Master Chief Collection to PC 
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Jun 12, 2017 17:27
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So if they added trigger buttons to the Duke, then what the crap to the black and white buttons do now
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Jun 12, 2017 18:10
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Shadow Hog posted:So if they added trigger buttons to the Duke, then what the crap to the black and white buttons do now Probably mirror them. It might just be because I'm a dumbass but being able to play original Xbox discs kind of makes me want to get an xbone. Last non Nintendo console I had was a PS2 so the ability to play three gens I missed is mighty tempting. If they get Burnout 3, SSX Tricky and the Tony hawk games working though I could see myself impulse buying one easily.
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Jun 12, 2017 18:14
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The Kins posted:In "...huh." news, Hyperkin are bringing back "The Duke" for Xbox One and Windows 10, with the endorsement of original Xbox co-creator Seamus Blackley. That actually seems like a decent emulator controller. If the sticks click in, it's got 2 sets of shoulder buttons, and black/white don't just map to L1/R1, then you've basically got all the current standard buttons plus a 6-button layout. Actually, even if black & white are just remaps of something it wouldn't be bad, you'd still be able to use it for something like the Saturn since that had 6 buttons but only 1 set of shoulder buttons.
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Jun 12, 2017 18:17
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Shadow Hog posted:So if they added trigger buttons to the Duke, then what the crap to the black and white buttons do now Continue to be the black and white buttons while you play the Xbox titles?
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Jun 12, 2017 18:24
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I get distracted for a few days, come back and there's loving Super Mario World poo poo talk. Get the gently caress out of this thread and go make your "lovely opinions about games" megathread. 
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Jun 12, 2017 18:41
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Opinions are like assholes... This thread is full of them.
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Jun 12, 2017 18:46
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absolutely anything posted:Mario World is an expertly crafted game but I have no real passion for it and Mario 3 is better in like every way Mostly agreed but SMB3 really could have benefited from the ability to save and replay levels, two features which finally got added into the GBA version.
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Jun 12, 2017 19:11
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Being able to save is something we take for granted and is a big reason why I also preferred World, as well as why both All-Stars the GBA releases were a big deal for me. It's also why I've always been on the Sonic 3 (& Knuckles) team over Sonic 2.
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Nate RFB posted:Being able to save is something we take for granted and is a big reason why I also preferred World, as well as why both All-Stars the GBA releases were a big deal for me. It's also why I've always been on the Sonic 3 (& Knuckles) team over Sonic 2. Just as long as you remember to cheese it and replay the easiest ghost house after every level.
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