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Mandel Brotset
Jan 1, 2024

Lustful Man Hugs posted:

Is it just me or are the State Dept leaks getting bolder?

it’s just you, until state dept employees start defecting to hamas and blowing up idf tanks it’s just a distraction

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HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

Mandel Brotset posted:

it’s just you, until state dept employees start defecting to hamas and blowing up idf tanks it’s just a distraction

Spoondick
Jun 9, 2000

the state department is undoubtedly aware of every atrocity observed in gaza and the west bank because it's their job to get ahead of things and downplay the atrocities to the press and other countries

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/martyrabuh/status/1789184728169685193

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

i gotta say the response from arab nations has been extremely garbage beyond groups like ansar allah and hezbollah

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Jordanians it is time to end your monarchy.

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015


The whole human race
sentenced
to
burn

Spoondick posted:

the state department is undoubtedly aware of every atrocity observed in gaza and the west bank because it's their job to get ahead of things and downplay the atrocities to the press and other countries

And it's their job to record all of it with high definition spy satellites and drones. They, like Israel, have plenty of acts of atrocities and war crimes being carried out by the IOF on video but will never release it to international courts.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

HallelujahLee posted:

i gotta say the response from arab nations has been extremely garbage beyond groups like ansar allah and hezbollah

it's not surprising, the arab spring failed and arab collaborationist nazis succeeded, you're just seeing the natural result.

and on top of that, sadly the money is in the hands of inbred zionist dogfucker royal families.

sleep with the vicious
Apr 2, 2010
Egypt isn't going to push back even if israel crosses into the sinai and invades them

Best Friends
Nov 4, 2011

also the state department recruits heavily from, basically, highly successful d&d poster type ideological people. It’s personally important to those people that they’re good and America is good, and if America isn’t exactly being good then a) that’s a mistake and b) they must do something to assure themselves that the mistake has no moral bearing on themselves. so, memos, anonymous sources, etc. they can’t quit of course - in the liberal ideology, a career takes precedence.

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

Al-Saqr posted:

it's not surprising, the arab spring failed and arab collaborationist nazis succeeded, you're just seeing the natural result.

and on top of that, sadly the money is in the hands of inbred zionist dogfucker royal families.

yeah it sucks massive rear end

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

sleep with the vicious posted:

Egypt isn't going to push back even if israel crosses into the sinai and invades them

Its all so silly. The Israelis dream of Greater Israel, and if they are not stopped in Gaza then they will eventually march on the East Bank, the Sinai, Lebanon and Syria.

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019



:420::toot::420:

Best Friends posted:

also the state department recruits heavily from, basically, highly successful d&d poster type ideological people. It’s personally important to those people that they’re good and America is good, and if America isn’t exactly being good then a) that’s a mistake and b) they must do something to assure themselves that the mistake has no moral bearing on themselves. so, memos, anonymous sources, etc. they can’t quit of course - in the liberal ideology, a career takes precedence.

been saying this 👆

Autisanal Cheese
Nov 29, 2010

Nonsense posted:

Jordanians it is time to end your monarchy.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Best Friends posted:

also the state department recruits heavily from, basically, highly successful d&d poster type ideological people. It’s personally important to those people that they’re good and America is good, and if America isn’t exactly being good then a) that’s a mistake and b) they must do something to assure themselves that the mistake has no moral bearing on themselves. so, memos, anonymous sources, etc. they can’t quit of course - in the liberal ideology, a career takes precedence.

Of course the flipside is that this means all the decisions are made and actions done by people who are as smart and self-aware as said D&D posters

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Ppl that'll bitch and whine to you when you have a drink with them after hours but gi right back to the genocide factory in the morning. It's just a job! I support PETA!

CN CREW-VESSEL
Feb 1, 2024

敌人磨刀我们也磨刀

Best Friends posted:

also the state department recruits heavily from, basically, highly successful d&d poster type ideological people. It’s personally important to those people that they’re good and America is good, and if America isn’t exactly being good then a) that’s a mistake and b) they must do something to assure themselves that the mistake has no moral bearing on themselves. so, memos, anonymous sources, etc. they can’t quit of course - in the liberal ideology, a career takes precedence.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Americans live day to day going to their job of pulling levers at the Trolley Problem Factory.

KORNOLOGY
Aug 9, 2006
Has there been any Israeli mention of a greater Israel project?

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

KORNOLOGY posted:

Has there been any Israeli mention of a greater Israel project?

check out the Likud Charter.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
also aljazeera reporting that Ber Sheva and Israeli towns in Negev being rocketed by Hamas.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
Looks like Israel is issuing evac orders for central Rafah now.

https://aje.io/bi718r?update=2893657

Al Jazeera Live Feed posted:

Mosab Nasser, chief executive officer at FAJR Scientific, a non-profit US medical organisation, has told Al Jazeera that 17 medical personnel are currently stuck in Rafah after Israel seized the Rafah border crossing. The group arrived on April 29 on a two-week mission, Nasser said, speaking from the European Gaza Hospital in Rafah. “We were operating the first week of our mission with no problems and then the military operation started in eastern Rafah. But then it started trickling farther west where our safe house was,” he said. “This morning we received the evacuation orders from Block 6 in Rafah where our safe house is – it is not longer safe – to evacuate, so we had to interrupt our work at the hospital and go back and pick up our stuff from the unsafe house and bring it back to the European Hospital,” he added.

Nasser said the Israeli military operation was not, as Israel claims, concentrated on eastern Rafah. “What we have experienced is completely otherwise. In fact, bombs were falling in the neighbourhood where we were, within a distance of less than 500 metres [0.3 miles] from the supposedly safe house, which put our physicians and surgeons at risk.”

I also saw in there that the areas Israel is telling people to evac are getting very close to the Kuwaiti hospital.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
America is Satan.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Media here is completely whitewashing the State Department report as "highly critical of Israel".

Orbs
Apr 1, 2009
~Liberation~

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Of course the flipside is that this means all the decisions are made and actions done by people who are as smart and self-aware as said D&D posters

Al-Saqr posted:

America is Satan.
Couldn't decide, had to emptyquote both

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Al-Saqr posted:

America is Satan.

Obviously.

Some would even say The Great Satan.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/JalalAK_jojo/status/1789075583130845291

Strep Vote
May 5, 2004

أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

Al-Saqr posted:

America is Satan.

Me in 2003 considering this classic:

edit way too lazy to fix this, we all know the alonzo mourning assessment gif

Strep Vote has issued a correction as of 17:16 on May 11, 2024

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

quote:

Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine Deputy Secretary-General Jamil Mezher

The Palestinian resistance in Gaza, with its various military wings, is engaging in the greatest epic of this modern era. Despite its modest means, its joint operations in the field and surprise tactics have managed to defeat the strongest military force in the region, heavily armed with all types of American-made weapons, and permanently undermine its deterrence and military superiority.

The zionist entity has failed in marketing its colonial project and its claim as the only democratic state in the East, revealing its racist identity and ugly face to the entire world during the eight months of the Al-Aqsa Flood battle. We witnessed the victory of the Palestinian right, the historical narrative, and the legitimacy of our resistance.

The events of the battle of Al-Aqsa Flood expanded the circle of supporters for the Palestinian cause globally. Who would have expected the world to rise up, even from within the regions most controlled by the zionist lobby, especially in Western countries and particularly in America?

The university intifada in America has struck a nerve with the zionist lobby there. Now, the world is aligning with our people's cause in ongoing advocacy campaigns and isolating the aggression of the occupation.

The achievements of the international popular boycott movement on economic, cultural, academic, and political levels, have been notable with the university uprisings being a significant highlight.

The expanding isolation of the enemy, even among Jewish organizations in the United States which have started to denounce the occupation's crimes and disavow their relationship with the zionist entity is notable. For the first time, the occupation's crimes are being prosecuted in the International Court of Justice, with occupation leaders facing arrest and trial as war criminals.

The Al-Aqsa Flood battle revealed the retreat of the American project in the region and its inability to justify its presence or protect the zionist entity.

The battle of Al-Aqsa Flood witnessed the emergence of significant regional powers such as Iran, playing a pivotal and main role as the spearhead of the Axis of Resistance, and Yemen's emergence as a new Arab military and political power worthy of pride, along with the successful resistance in Lebanon which inflicted heavy military blows on the enemy in the north.

These transformations in public opinion that have taken place and are taking place are a result of our people's resilient resistance and the support of the free people of the world for our just national cause. The resistance, especially in the Al-Aqsa Flood battle, has been a primary lever for these changes, broadening the extent of official and public international support for our national struggle and rights.

The zionist project is a colonial, religiously and ideologically racist, expansionist, settler colonial project based on uprooting and massacres, dominated by a group of myths and imagined superstitions based on biblical ideas that were the pivot of the zionist project and a justification for committing massacres and controlling all of Palestine.

Today's devastating zionist war on the Palestinian people is a true embodiment of the zionist strategy based on displacing the original inhabitants and emptying the land of its people through massacres, destruction, and forced displacement. On this basis, the occupation has practiced policies of geographic, political, economic separation, deprivation of infrastructure, and imposed a scorched earth policy.

The true face of the zionist entity's racism and its false democratic facade have been exposed, as well as the ugly face of the criminal imperialism that partners in aggression, supporting the zionist entity with all types of weapons and even political protection. This US administration has used its veto power four times to block any cessation of the aggression.

There is a need to Arabize the Palestinian issue through the revival of the Arab nationalist project according to a progressive revolutionary Arab national program in a modern revolutionary form, shedding old ideas, freeing it from the calcification in its organizational and administrative structures. This would restore the role of the progressive Arab national liberation movement, based on a progressive revolutionary Arab national program of resistance and building its strong organizational tool, through which young blood is injected into its body.

All participants in this forum must contribute to the efforts to internationalize the Palestinian cause with new and effective ideas based on the achievements made on the ground during the Al-Aqsa Flood battle, and the exposure of the zionist project.

There is a need to build a strong wall to confront normalization and the Abraham Accords, through a robust Arab plan aimed at overthrowing this dangerous treacherous project that seeks to integrate this entity into the Arab region, to continue the schemes of fragmenting the Arab nation and any attempts at resurgence.

There is a need to restore the national dimension to the Palestinian struggle and provide a strong Arab popular support for our people's resistance. This is a shared responsibility that rests primarily on the national and Arab popular forces, and not to succumb to the pressures exerted by the reactionary forces influential in the decision-making institutions of the Arab world.

The Arab masses must continue to pressure through mass public demonstrations in capitals, cities, and squares of the world in support of the Palestinian cause, supporting our resistance, and condemning the ongoing aggression.

The university intifada in America and their expansion to universities in Western countries should be a model to be emulated in order to triumph for Palestine and its people.

The Arab masses must not leave the squares, and the Arab universities and all cells of Arab society should rise up for Palestine.

There is also a need to lead dialogue and build relations with Iran as an integral part of the geography and history of this region, and to counter any attempts to make Iran a central enemy in order to build an Arab-zionist alliance under an American umbrella to confront it. The Al-Aqsa Flood battle has revealed who is the central enemy of the Arab nation, and who is the friend.

We call for Arab progressive and popular forces to contribute to breaking the siege imposed on the Gaza Strip during and after the aggression on Gaza. This includes pressing for the opening of the Rafah crossing, rejecting its custodianship, increasing the capacity for departures, and allowing the entry of relief supplies, eventually leading to a practical plan to allow the entry of Arab volunteer delegations in various specialties such as health, engineering, services, and civil defense teams to help alleviate our people's suffering, assist in retrieving bodies of martyrs, and clear the rubble, among other actions, especially after the end of the aggression.

We are completely confident in the inevitable, imminent, and decisive victory... and that we are in the final square of liberation. This is a firm reality that is now evident before us.

hey mom its 420
May 12, 2007

Best Friends posted:

also the state department recruits heavily from, basically, highly successful d&d poster type ideological people. It’s personally important to those people that they’re good and America is good, and if America isn’t exactly being good then a) that’s a mistake and b) they must do something to assure themselves that the mistake has no moral bearing on themselves. so, memos, anonymous sources, etc. they can’t quit of course - in the liberal ideology, a career takes precedence.

Barrel Cactaur
Oct 6, 2021

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Americans live day to day going to their job of pulling levers at the Trolley Problem Factory.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
we gotta give big props to the PFLP they might be the smallest of the three factions (Hamas, PIJ, PFLP) but they did amzing work and really represented leftism well in this fight

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
nazi america offered to commit nazi crimes if israel would not commit other nazi crimes

===

Washington offered to provide intelligence to Israel to avoid invasion of Rafah

The Washington Post quoted sources as saying that the United States had offered Israel valuable assistance if it backtracked on its extensive invasion of Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip.

The US assistance included providing intelligence to locate the leaders of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) and find hidden tunnels, the sources said, quoting the sources.

It also said Washington had offered Israel to build tent cities equipped for Palestinians evacuated from Rafah.

https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...31575;&%231578;

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

If Israel were to just roll into Egypt and claim the entire country for itself, it would not at all surprise me if Egypt just allowed it to happen.

Orbis Tertius
Feb 13, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

We are completely confident in the inevitable, imminent, and decisive victory... and that we are in the final square of liberation. This is a firm reality that is now evident before us.

thats right

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette
https://x.com/countindraculas/status/1789103695491444831?s=46

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Al-Saqr posted:

nazi america offered to commit nazi crimes if israel would not commit other nazi crimes

===

Washington offered to provide intelligence to Israel to avoid invasion of Rafah

The Washington Post quoted sources as saying that the United States had offered Israel valuable assistance if it backtracked on its extensive invasion of Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip.

The US assistance included providing intelligence to locate the leaders of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) and find hidden tunnels, the sources said, quoting the sources.

It also said Washington had offered Israel to build tent cities equipped for Palestinians evacuated from Rafah.

https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...31575;&%231578;

Please dont invade rafah, we'll build the concentration camps for you. I mean humanitarian islands

guidoanselmi
Feb 6, 2008

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

here’s the CNN article https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/10/middleeast/israel-sde-teiman-detention-whistleblowers-intl-cmd/index.html

GoLambo
Apr 11, 2006

Al-Saqr posted:

nazi america offered to commit nazi crimes if israel would not commit other nazi crimes

===

Washington offered to provide intelligence to Israel to avoid invasion of Rafah

The Washington Post quoted sources as saying that the United States had offered Israel valuable assistance if it backtracked on its extensive invasion of Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip.

The US assistance included providing intelligence to locate the leaders of the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) and find hidden tunnels, the sources said, quoting the sources.

It also said Washington had offered Israel to build tent cities equipped for Palestinians evacuated from Rafah.

https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...31575;&%231578;

They're trying to tell me that the US had the intelligence to find Hamas and all those tunnels and they just haven't bothered sharing it with the IDF yet? That's gotta be the stupidest thing I've heard all day.

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Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

GoLambo posted:

They're trying to tell me that the US had the intelligence to find Hamas and all those tunnels and they just haven't bothered sharing it with the IDF yet? That's gotta be the stupidest thing I've heard all day.

no no it's not that america and israel failed it's that america just didnt see fit in the master plan to help israel to win.

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