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Zamboni Rodeo
Jul 19, 2007

NEVER play "Lady of Spain" AGAIN!




The MSJ posted:

Another one from the CineD poster thread.

I saw Lost Highway when it came out in theaters and to this day I still don't know if I liked it or not.

The soundtrack was amazing, though.

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Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas had a similar ad. The copy was "Love It. Hate It. Buy the ticket, take the ride."

TenCentFang
Sep 5, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo

Sarcopenia posted:

It was a trailer for at a lot of horror movie showings, making it seem like it was a totally edgy horror torture porn and not a hamfisted "art" movie.

So they Bridge to Terrabithiad it?


Maxwell Lord posted:

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas had a similar ad. The copy was "Love It. Hate It. Buy the ticket, take the ride."

I like this a lot more than "lol here's some negative quotes" because it's basically a cliche now and not a very funny one to begin with. It edges on being an intentionally "bad" effort, which as far as fictional media go is my sworn enemy. That doesn't make me wanna see the movie ironically or not, it just signals to me that whoever's responsible has the same sense of humor as SIDS. Instead of highlighting that people hate it, better to use polarizing reactions to say that it doesn't matter if it's good or bad.

TenCentFang has a new favorite as of 03:43 on Sep 24, 2017

Traxus IV
Sep 11, 2001

it's our time now
let's get this shit started


Byzantine posted:

gently caress you say?

I appreciate you :allears: Third street!


To contribute to movie marketing chat, is there a term or anything for when a movie shoots itself in the foot by giving away choice elements in trailers? Like showing the monster in a horror movie, or using all the best jokes in a comedy, or the biggest effects shots in an action blockbuster. Putting the best stuff in the trailer and leaving nothing for the movie seems to happen more often than it should.

Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

Activating self-destruct sequence!
Fun Shoe

Traxus IV posted:

I appreciate you :allears: Third street!


To contribute to movie marketing chat, is there a term or anything for when a movie shoots itself in the foot by giving away choice elements in trailers? Like showing the monster in a horror movie, or using all the best jokes in a comedy, or the biggest effects shots in an action blockbuster. Putting the best stuff in the trailer and leaving nothing for the movie seems to happen more often than it should.

Yeah, it's called "we have a real stinker on our hands so let's just hope putting anything actually worthwhile about the movie in the trailer tricks a few people"

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Intoluene posted:

Yeah, it's called "we have a real stinker on our hands so let's just hope putting anything actually worthwhile about the movie in the trailer tricks a few people"

Even good movies do this. And it used to be worse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_jGOKYHxaQ This one gives the entire summary of the plot short of the twist, and I'm almost certain there was a trailer that literally has Charleton Heston screaming SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE.

The reality is trailers are made for marketing, not artistic expression. If you wanna get people in the movie you show them the parts that will draw them in, that's naturally the best parts.

ArtIsResistance
May 19, 2007

QUEEN OF FRANCE, SAVIOR OF LOWTAX

TenCentFang posted:

I like this a lot more than "lol here's some negative quotes" because it's basically a cliche now and not a very funny one to begin with. It edges on being an intentionally "bad" effort, which as far as fictional media go is my sworn enemy. That doesn't make me wanna see the movie ironically or not, it just signals to me that whoever's responsible has the same sense of humor as SIDS. Instead of highlighting that people hate it, better to use polarizing reactions to say that it doesn't matter if it's good or bad.

I agree, this movie poster is probably written by people who laugh at sudden infant death syndrome

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
The Terminator 2 trailer gave away that Arnold was the good guy, against James Camerons wishes.

The Suicide Squad trailer took literally every bit of humor and joke from the movie, and put them in the trailer. They then had to spend millions of dollars doing reshoots of the movie to make it more like the trailer.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

evobatman posted:

The Terminator 2 trailer gave away that Arnold was the good guy, against James Camerons wishes.

The Suicide Squad trailer took literally every bit of humor and joke from the movie, and put them in the trailer. They then had to spend millions of dollars doing reshoots of the movie to make it more like the trailer.

Batman vs superman spoiled wonder woman's appearance didn't it?

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

ilmucche posted:

Batman vs superman spoiled wonder woman's appearance didn't it?

That's the only thing that got anyone into that theater post opening weekend.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

evobatman posted:

The Suicide Squad trailer took literally every bit of humor and joke from the movie, and put them in the trailer. They then had to spend millions of dollars doing reshoots of the movie to make it more like the trailer.

That movie was my first thought too - the only parts worth watching were all in the trailer.

Likewise Kick rear end 2 - the trailer is filled with Jim Carrey (mostly adlibbing) being funny. Watching the film, you realise that those bits are the only part of the entire movie worth watching

Let's put the final plot twist on the front of the DVD cover

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

spog posted:

That movie was my first thought too - the only parts worth watching were all in the trailer.

Likewise Kick rear end 2 - the trailer is filled with Jim Carrey (mostly adlibbing) being funny. Watching the film, you realise that those bits are the only part of the entire movie worth watching

Let's put the final plot twist on the front of the DVD cover


DVD covers and menus spoil poo poo all the time but I think it's assumed that you only bought the DVD if you loved the movie, and if you're renting it it doesn't have the cover and you're going straight to "play movie."

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
I mean I'm gonna give a pass on that one because it may possibly be the most ubiquitous twist of all time at this point. There's more than a handful of people who know nothing about the movie but know that line.

TenCentFang
Sep 5, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo
REC's cover was the literal last shot of the movie, but it didn't really give anything away. Still, weird choice.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

One of the main clips they used in trailers for Paul Blart 2, Paul getting kicked by a horse, was also the literal last shot of the movie.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?
Pretty sure the menu on the usual suspects DVD has the Kobayashi teacup on it. It isnt an issue if you don't know what it means, until one of your frienss says it spoils the movie

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

evobatman posted:

The Terminator 2 trailer gave away that Arnold was the good guy, against James Camerons wishes.

The Suicide Squad trailer took literally every bit of humor and joke from the movie, and put them in the trailer. They then had to spend millions of dollars doing reshoots of the movie to make it more like the trailer.

This wasn't actually true iirc. The Suicide Squad reshoots were normal, budgeted-for, happens-all-the-time reshoots which any big budget film has, but terrible media blogs lost their minds over it to generate a headline. There was a similar thing about another film where a big fuss was made about 'the original cut was 5 hours long!!' which completely misunderstood what a workprint was and why it existed.

TenCentFang
Sep 5, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo
If it was true the film would have been better, because the trailer was still nothing but the best moments.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

spog posted:

That movie was my first thought too - the only parts worth watching were all in the trailer.

Likewise Kick rear end 2 - the trailer is filled with Jim Carrey (mostly adlibbing) being funny. Watching the film, you realise that those bits are the only part of the entire movie worth watching

Let's put the final plot twist on the front of the DVD cover


its a dvd cover for an old as hell movie, there is no twist for anyone watching already

Mikl
Nov 8, 2009

Vote shit sandwich or the shit sandwich gets it!
I had a friend who watched Soylent Green recently, and didn't know the twist. Another friend watched the Star Wars movies in preparation for Episode VII, having not seen them before, and was shocked by the twist in Empire Strikes Back.

Spoiling things is dumb, no matter how old something is.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Mikl posted:

I had a friend who watched Soylent Green recently, and didn't know the twist. Another friend watched the Star Wars movies in preparation for Episode VII, having not seen them before, and was shocked by the twist in Empire Strikes Back.

Spoiling things is dumb, no matter how old something is.

The ship hits an iceberg and sinks.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Spoiling things is necessary because society needs shared points of reference and sources of universally intelligible metaphors. Everybody knows what happens in Romeo and Juliet, and it's fine.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Mikl posted:

I had a friend who watched Soylent Green recently, and didn't know the twist. Another friend watched the Star Wars movies in preparation for Episode VII, having not seen them before, and was shocked by the twist in Empire Strikes Back.

Spoiling things is dumb, no matter how old something is.

i'm sorry you can't see where its smarter to market to the big bunch of people who know the twist and might check the movie out to see where it comes up, rather then the five people who don't know they blew it up! god drat them all to hell!

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Platystemon posted:

The ship hits an iceberg and sinks.

Jeesus dies at the cross.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

mandatory lesbian posted:

its a dvd cover for an old as hell movie, there is no twist for anyone watching already

I'm pretty sure it was on at least one of the VHS covers because I remember standing in line at rogers video waiting to rent some lovely N64 game and they had them all on display and I figured out the plot twist just looking at the cases.

timefly
Apr 29, 2008

The DVD cover for Quarantine shows the final scene. The one where the main character is killed.

TenCentFang
Sep 5, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo
To be honest, as someone who's always lived with Planet of the Apes and "you blew it all up!", it's never actually seemed like a twist to me. Like, okay, The Sixth Sense, that has a twist, Citizen Kane has a mystery that you wanna find out, but the whole Not-Earth-Actually-It-Is-Earth thing is just...eh?

What I mean is I don't feel spoiled and if I sat down to watch it I can't imagine the surprise would really add anything.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

TenCentFang posted:

To be honest, as someone who's always lived with Planet of the Apes and "you blew it all up!", it's never actually seemed like a twist to me. Like, okay, The Sixth Sense, that has a twist, Citizen Kane has a mystery that you wanna find out, but the whole Not-Earth-Actually-It-Is-Earth thing is just...eh?

What I mean is I don't feel spoiled and if I sat down to watch it I can't imagine the surprise would really add anything.

I mean given the movie came out during the cold war it was like a cautionary thing and made the events more impactful than just some other place.

TenCentFang
Sep 5, 2017

by Nyc_Tattoo
Oh yeah, I totally overlooked that. That context really does help.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
Its pretty much why the newer movies go with an engineered virus instead of nukes. At least, so far. It wouldn't have the same relevance in a post soviet world.

ArtIsResistance
May 19, 2007

QUEEN OF FRANCE, SAVIOR OF LOWTAX

RagnarokAngel posted:

Its pretty much why the newer movies go with an engineered virus instead of nukes. At least, so far. It wouldn't have the same relevance in a post soviet world.

North Korea is gonna bring the 80s back gently caress yes

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

ArtIsResistance posted:

North Korea is gonna bring the 80s back gently caress yes

The ’80s are already back.

:smugdon:

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
Yeah, genre movies are especially prone to bad marketing ruining surprises. Wes Craven's They had a big twist money shot at the very end...which was the main image the marketing team centered on. It's a poo poo movie otherwise so whatever, they tried. Much worse is the early 80s indie horror, Dead and Buried, which is a quite good film with a weird mystery plot, and a great third act set of twists that I guess can be figured out if you try hard, but I've discovered that much of the initial marketing (and far too many reviews, even today) just spoil the hell out of things, which totally reduces the intrigue down to zero.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

RagnarokAngel posted:

I mean given the movie came out during the cold war it was like a cautionary thing and made the events more impactful than just some other place.

What was the context that made uniquely impactful the ending of the new Planet of The Apes when they return to Earth and they find the Lincoln memorial, but abe lincoln is a monkey and then everybody is a monkey but in present day america

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
That Tim Burton is a hack. Not that impactful I guess.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

steinrokkan posted:

What was the context that made uniquely impactful the ending of the new Planet of The Apes when they return to Earth and they find the Lincoln memorial, but abe lincoln is a monkey and then everybody is a monkey but in present day america

I think that ending was from the novel.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

The MSJ posted:

I think that ending was from the novel.

Ill be damned, it was.

EmmyOk
Aug 11, 2013

Aperaham Lincoln

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Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

EmmyOk posted:

Aperaham Lincoln

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Honest Ape would've been much better

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Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

EmmyOk posted:

Aperaham Lincoln

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lol

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